[DECtalk] concerns about sapi voices on grossgang.com

[Alex H.]

It would be pretty cool. If speechHub could get integrated, add sapi4
support, there'd be no duplicating efforts. BTW SpeechHub has sonic
integrated, so fast rates are possible with Pico and the like. Just a
bit irritated that I seem to be the only one who thought of this. Then
again, I hear the RB devs are jerks, and their motto is code it
yourself or don't have the feature, so I don't think it'll happen, not
right away anyway.

One central platform would be nice for a change. You could actually
run a sapi5 DT through speechhub using sonic so it won't slur. Finally
some useful things could be done with combining everything.

Sorry for the rambling nature here, I'll be more Decky from now on. :D

On 1/5/14, Blake Roberts <beroberts at hughes.net> wrote:
> I like the idea of Sapi4 support in RockBox utility. I could install
> ViaVoice which I have on an old OpenBook CD. It would be easy to then voice
> my Samsa Clip Plus using ViaVoice and the RB utility. I currently have the
> MP3 player menus voiced by Dectalk but wouldn't mind changing to ViaVoice
> since it sounds so much like Eloquence. I purchased a program last year
> that
> was the complete opposite, supporting SAPI4 but not SAPI5. Since the
> program
> I am speaking of only supported the older version of SAPI, I don't see  too
> much difficulty to implement SAPI4 on RockBox utility. I have no
> programming
> knowledge, however, so this is just my two cents.
> Blake
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex H.
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:58 AM
> To: DECtalk Discussions
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] concerns about sapi voices on grossgang.com
>
> What pisses me off is Rockbox Utility. I want sapi4 support in that.
> They support a shitty synth like Festival, and yet can't support
> something like SAPI4? Someone needs to integrate SpeechHub support
> into Rockbox utility. At least then, it'll actually be doing
> something, rather than be yet another open-source fork of a fork of a
> fork of a fork of a bridge to another fork to some forks.
>
> Alex
>
> On 1/5/14, Jake McMahan <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com> wrote:
>> There is a program called balibolka that combines the two systems
>> together
>> so you can use all of the voices.  This is a text reader application.
>> There's also a program called DSpeech that I use that can use sapi4 and
>> sapi5 voices.  But as far as I know, I don't think there's a program that
>> will let your screen readers access the sapi4 voices unless it supports
>> sapi4 directly.
>> And to try to answer your question furthermore there doesn't seem to be a
>> program that will convert sapi4 voices to be used on sapi5, they are two
>> totally different APIs.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jayson Smith
>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 10:45 AM
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] concerns about sapi voices on grossgang.com
>>
>> I know that. What I'm wanting to know is if there's any program to make
>> SAPI4 synths work under SAPI5 so you can use them with applications that
>> only support SAPI5.
>> Jayson
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jake McMahan" <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:39:50 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] concerns about sapi voices on grossgang.com
>>
>>> There was never a version of eloquence made for sapi5, as it's a pretty
>>> old
>>> synth and isn't being developped any more that I know of.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jayson Smith
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:18 AM
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] concerns about sapi voices on grossgang.com
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to adapt a SAPI4 voice to work under SAPI5? I'd love to
>>> use Eloquence, L&H, etc. with Sapi5 programs, but I assume they're
>>> Sapi4.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> On 1/5/2014 4:24 AM, Piotr Machacz wrote:
>>> > This is now in the same league as the Sapi5 real speak voices that
>>> > were
>>> > bundled with JAWS 8 and 9. This version of Eloquence is the one that
>>> > came
>>> > bundled with Window-eyes,, all the way to version 7 when they switched
>>> > to
>>> > a direct driver. So, I really don't think this is much of a problem.
>>> >
>>> > On 04 Jan 2014, at 11:26 pm, brandon T <brandongold98 at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Looking through the section on grossgang.com in the folder
>>> >> dectalk\sapi voices, I'm a bit concerned about the Eloquence and
>>> >> ViaVoice entries. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain
>>> >> that
>>> >> these voices are illegal. For NVDA users, including myself, it would
>>> >> probably make NVDA users think it's ok to run eloquence legally. But
>>> >> there's a blog post on the NVDA site stating that this is illegal. So
>>> >> are these actually legal copies that can be used with NVDA no
>>> >> problem?
>>> >> Or were they taken out of something?
>>> >>
>>> >> I just don't want to see us get in trouble because of this.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Brandon
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