[DECtalk] text files
Ulysses Garcia
green_gables_fan33 at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 28 15:20:42 EST 2014
Well, as long as we're on the subject of DECtalk singing. I wonder if
anyone on the DECtalk archive can rename some of the files in the
example folder, because right now some of them have names I never heard of.
Like for example, the first file in the list is called Aladdin but I
don't' recall hearing that melody in the film.
Here is a MIDI version of what it sounds like. It's not much, but I
think the melody sort of repeats as it changes keys. Unfortunately
DECtalk couldn't finish the song, so it went to Genteel Aluette. I've
been wanting to hear this song since 2007.
Thanks in advance for any information,
-Ulysses
On 12/28/2014 11:05 AM, Jason Smith via Dectalk wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Blake Roberts via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> To: "'DECtalk'" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 10:10:26 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] text files
>
>> Mike, Did you create any other DT songs in addition to Yellow Submarine? I
>> think that song was well done. I pulled your text file out of a zip called
>> examples.zip generated years ago. I can't write to you off-list because
>> listserv settings now hide email addresses, presumably for antispam
>> purposes.
>> Blake
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
> Mike S
>> via Dectalk
>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 1:10 AM
>> To: DECtalk
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] the tone command
>>
>> Hi there. I can't believe those files are still around. I can
>> embarrassingly admit to spawning that yellow submarine with the tones
>> long long ago. All I did was use the pitch values that you use for the
>> phonemes followed by the lengths. It's all charted out in the DecTalk
>> Commands.txt file. Although, coming out of my old DecTalk PC2 it made
>> a weird little flap before each tone like it was slapping the notes.
>> Mike Sivill
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/27/14, master_j44--- via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Interesting read!
>>>
>>> I've always wanted to make my Dectalk sing but didn't know how to go
> about
>>> it. Is it a matter of writing the lyrics/tone codes in a notepad file
> and
>>> running that through some Dectalk window program?
>>>
>>> Any help/instructions would be most appreciated. Thanks. :)
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> From: Raymond C. Grote via Dectalk
>>> To: DECtalk
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] the tone command
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> It's been a ridiculously long time since I popped in here, but I've
> been
>>> fighting with e-mail settings forever and got tired of dealing with it.
>> Now
>>> I finally got it sorted.
>>> The numbers used in Dectalk's tone command represent note frequencies.
>>> Basically, the number represents how many times the wave travels up and
>> down
>>> in one second. The higher the frequency, the higher the pitch of the
> tone.
>>> Unfortunately, all this isn't very useful when it comes to musical
>>> synthesizers. So there are several methods to convert musical notes to
>>> frequency.
>>> One thing that holds true though, is that the A above middle C has a
>>> frequency of 440 hertz, so you'd use 440 in Dectalk's tone command to
>>> generate that A. If you wanted the octave above, you'd use 880, for the
>>> octave above that, you'd use 1760, etc. And for the octaves below, you'd
>> use
>>> 220, 110, etc. just doubling or halving the frequency depending on which
>>> direction you wanted to go. "Fine," you say, "What about other notes?"
>>> The easiest way to get other notes is to go online and try searching
> for
>> a
>>> frequency to musical notes reference table. Many exist, with varrying
>>> degrees of accuracy. I wouldn't spend too much time nit picking on
>> accuracy
>>> at least for Dectalk use, because I think Dectalk can only do whole
>> numbers
>>> anyway. One or two values off the mark isn't going to make too much of
> an
>>> audible difference. The main thing to check for is that there is an A
> 440
>> on
>>> the chart, and every A above that is doubling, and every A below is half
>>> like I said above.
>>> Now, the really dirty approach that you can do if you don't feel like
>>> looking at a chart but instead want to do your own math. Why you would
> use
>>> this approach over a simple chart is beyond me unless you're genuinely
>>> interested in the maths, but here goes anyway.
>>> If you want to calculate other frequencies for other notes yourself,
> you
>>> can multiply a bass frequency, such as 440, by the 12th root of two. I'm
>> not
>>> sure what that is but I did have it written down before. I've done a
> quick
>>> calculation and if you multiply by 1.0594631, that is pretty close. So,
>> 440
>>> multiplied by 1.0594631 is about 466, so that 466 in Dectalk's tone
>> command
>>> would get you A sharp.
>>> Now, that multiplication figure I gave above isn't totally accurate;
> the
>> A
>>> an octave above, as I said, should be at 880 hertz exactly, but if you
> do
>>> the multiplication as suggested above, you'll get something like
>> 880.00006.
>>> Which won't make an audible difference to even the most trained ear.
> Even
>> if
>>> you'd come up with 881, I doubt most people would notice, even if you'd
>>> played 440 right before.
>>> If you keep multiplying it out to get higher and higher using the
> figure
>> I
>>> gave, you're not going to run into a huge margin of error until you get
>> into
>>> ultrasonics, and dectalk can only go up to 5512 HZ. Which is just a step
>> up
>>> from telephony. In other words it's not high enough to pose a problem
>> here.
>>> That said, however, if you actually multiply by the 12th route of 2
>>> properly, you'll avoid that margin of error, or at the very least, keep
> it
>>> negligible.
>>> I hope all of this has helped. Don't let the complicated
> multiplication
>> by
>>> the 12th root of 2 and the like overwhelm you. I just put it here to
> show
>>> how to do it scientifically if you were interested to take that route.
>> Like
>>> I said, just looking them up on a reference table really should be all
> you
>>> have to do to get satisfactory results.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>> To: 'DECtalk'
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:20 PM
>>> Subject: [DECtalk] the tone command
>>>
>>>
>>> I have known for years about the Dectalk command for generating
>> musical
>>> tones.
>>>
>>> [:tone]
>>>
>>> However, I have never understood which tones represent what notes.
>> Does
>>> anyone know of a method for figuring that out? As an example of a file
>> with
>>> tones, I am attaching We All Live In A Yellow Submarine text file. I
> have
>> no
>>> idea who made it. The fact that the tone command is used near the end to
>>> create a melody amazes me.
>>>
>>> Blake
>>>
>>>
>>>
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