[DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
mattias
mjonsson1986 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 31 11:53:57 EDT 2014
i dont have the option
only sapi5
or will it work on win8
Blake Roberts via Dectalk skrev den 2014-08-31 17:43:
> Chatterbox should start talking after you install it and select SAPI version
> 4 in the NVDA synthesizer list.
> Blake
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> mattias via Dectalk
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:01 AM
> To: DECtalk
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
>
> how to actually get the tts working?
> win8
> Jim Hunt via Dectalk skrev den 2014-08-31 16:26:
>> Very well said Alex. For those who quivel about the legalities of
>> abandonware ... who cares? The point here is that SoftVoice is
> abandonware.
>> Abandonware is software that has been and is abandoned and no longer
>> supported. Some of the companies who developed abandonware are no longer
>> even in existence anymore. (As a side note, there is a BT Sync archive
>> dedicated to abandonware games.) Folks, as long as there's an interest in
>> playing with these older synths, I say, friends, play away!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex
>> H. via Dectalk
>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:14 AM
>> To: DECtalk
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
>>
>> I'll say something and I hope you're reading carefully.
>>
>> Please stop asking if everything is legal. Most people will disregard your
>> message anyway, as legal/illegal software is a touchy topic for some
> people,
>> and honestly, it gets old that you ask after every message. Read licenses,
>> and either care to follow them, or don't.
>> That's entirely up to you.
>>
>> I believe the Softvoice corp is long dead, so for all purposes just keep
>> using it. It's antiquated and 16-bit stuff that works with SAPI4.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/14, brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I know that the Chatterbox voice has some things wrong, but it is
>>> working pretty well for me. I have the new driver.
>>>
>>> How can this be free and legal if it is based on a commercial product,
>>> Softvoice, that was not free?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any assistance
>>> you are willing to provide.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Brandon Tyson
>>>
>>> On 8/30/14, Alex H. via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> Chatterbox has issues and reads numbers as single digits, e.g., 301
>>>> as
>>>> 3 0 1.It also breaks when using the shift key to pause or start
>>>> typing. I modified the sapi4 NVDA driver about 2 years ago, but cant
>>>> find the file now.
>>>>
>>>> I use Vocalizer or Orpheus or espeak these days, with some Eloquence
>>>> in their too. My DEC USB is at home sadly, so I can't use it
>>>> currently. I avoid synths with issues, but they're fun to play with
>>>> for sure.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/30/14, brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you on that it sounds like Softvoice. Do you think they
>>>>> would have intentionally modified the license file to make us think
>>>>> it was free?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to a response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> BRANDON TYSON
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This synth sounds like softvoice, an abandonware speech synthesizer
>>>>>> that wasn't free.
>>>>>> I assumed this was a sapi4 version.
>>>>>> Maybe chatterbox uses similar speech technology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com Date sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014
>>>>>> 18:49:35 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The license.txt file says that we are able to redistribute this
>>>>>> freely, and it also says that we got this for free. So, do you mind
>>>>>> if I please ask how this is abandonware please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> To me, Nv speech player sounds similar to Infovox 230 , and
>>>>>> Monologue sounds like Doubletalk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com Date sent: Sat, 30 Aug
>>>>>> 2014 00:29:19 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if I read the license correctly, it said something about I
>>>>>> can redistribute this software and that it's free, why does it say
>>>>>> that if it's abandonware? It says that in the license.txt file.
>>>>>> How do you know that the modified sapi4.py file is legal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/30/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> It is abandonware.
>>>>>> Speech rate is not supported.
>>>>>> Did you copy the sapi4.py file to your nvda user configuration
>>>>>> directory?
>>>>>> This driver prevents the synth from crashing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: brandon T viaDectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:42:52 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this synthesizer illegal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, it isn't speaking as I change the speed of the voice.
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is crashing sometimes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to a
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Tyson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> What part of the installer can't you read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:06:51 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately I can't read the installer. I am not sure if it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> in English.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for telling me about this, I really appreciate it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/14, Jake Gross via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Have you ever tried chatterbox?
>>>>>> It is a sapi4 english/rushen speech synthesizer.
>>>>>> You can find it at
>>>>>> http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/chatterbox.zip
>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: brandon T via Dectalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> To: DECtalk <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:12:00 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for this information. I thought that maybe another
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> was, with the Microsoft voices, I should try them at a faster
>>>>>> speed.
>>>>>> For now, they are ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for your time, I really appreciate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that you are having an awesome day!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/14, Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I know that the AT&T Natural voices were recorded at 16k
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> typical 22k for recorded speech samples. However, they might
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> work as
>>>>>> your primary synth due to large size of each voice. I
>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>> some AT&T
>>>>>> voices which I use as primary voices within OpenBook, but
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are used for
>>>>>> short periods. AT&T voices might work as your primary synth
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you have a
>>>>>> lot of Ram memory in your computer, i.e. more than a gig or
>>>>>> two.
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> brandon T via Dectalk
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:40 PM
>>>>>> To: DECtalk
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>>>>> primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am wondering if maybe the voices are just sounding too real
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>> Are there any that are recorded at a lower audio quality
>>>>>> please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any
>>>>>> assistance
>>>>>> you are willing to provide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Tyson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/14, Blake Roberts via Dectalk
>>>>>> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>> Ivona voices are SAPI5. To use them in NVDA I simply changed
>>>>>> from ESpeak
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> SAPI version 5 in the synthesizers list.
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> Wolak via Dectalk
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:07 PM
>>>>>> To: DECtalk
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for
>>>>>> primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I mostly use eloquence with nvda... A question for you
>>>>>> blake:
>>>>>> what do
>>>>>> you use to interface the ivona voices with nvda as I've been
>>>>>> thinking of
>>>>>> trying them?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> On 29/08/2014 8:00 PM, Blake Roberts via Dectalk wrote:
>>>>>> Brandon,
>>>>>> Although I use Eloquence as my primary synth in Jaws, Ivona
>>>>>> voices are a
>>>>>> close second. They are my primary voices within NVDA. Voices
>>>>>> from Ivona
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not free but you can trial each voice for 30 days before
>>>>>> purchase is
>>>>>> required. I prefer slow speeds so I'm not sure how Ivona
>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>> at fast
>>>>>> rates. I use Ivona voices because all of the voices sound
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> natural.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried the Orpheus synth? I purchased Orpheus but
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> use it
>>>>>> anymore because those voices are too fast for my liking.
>>>>>> Like
>>>>>> Ivona, you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> trial Orpheus for 30 days before purchase is required. The
>>>>>> difference is
>>>>>> with Orpheus you receive all voices, whereas Ivona voices are
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> voice at a time.
>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dectalk [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> brandon T via Dectalk
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 7:48 PM
>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>> Subject: [DECtalk] a decent speech synthesizer for primary
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been looking at Sapi 4 and Sapi 5 voices today. Also,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been looking at Speech Player. I am familiar with a lot of
>>>>>> voices,
>>>>>> including Acapela, Eloquence, DecTalk, Microsoft voices like
>>>>>> Sam, the
>>>>>> LH synthesizer, the Digalo voices, Infovox 230 and 330,
>>>>>> eSpeak,
>>>>>> Neospeech and others. Here is my problem. I have been majorly
>>>>>> investigating voices for years. I guess the main problem is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> of the voices do something that I don't like. Eloquence makes
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> clicking sound when it goes really fast. I have trouble
>>>>>> understanding
>>>>>> DecTalk when it goes really fast. The Acapela voices are, in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> opinion, too hard to use as a primary voice. I have thought
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> Infovox 230 and 330, but I cant do anything legally except
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> trial. Also, I can't use Eloquence legally with NVDA. The
>>>>>> Digalo
>>>>>> voices are hard to understand when speaking long amounts of
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> because they stop reading for a few seconds in the middle of
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> sentence. The Microsoft voices are ok, but again, the way
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> read is hard for me to get used to. ESpeak sometimes is hard
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> because when it goes fast, I hear this sort of interesting
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the middle of the speech. The LH voices are hard because,
>>>>>> well,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> unfortunately can't explain it. Do you mind if I please ask,
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> synthesizer do you use primarily, the reasons you use it,
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> is good
>>>>>> about it, and what is not as good please? I am hoping that,
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> input
>>>>>> and suggestions, I can hopefully find something that I will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> use primarily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to any
>>>>>> assistance
>>>>>> you are willing to provide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Tyson
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