[DECtalk] Foreign Langues - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?

Wed Feb 1 23:38:51 EST 2012

I'd be interested, but I don't know if you are legally able to do it. I 
doubt anyone would get real worked up if you did, but still. I'd be careful 
if I were you.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jake McMahan" <mcmahan.jake at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?

>
>
> -I happen to still have that text assist jem if anyone's 
> interested-------------------------------------------------
> From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 7:11 PM
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] SubjectLines  - Was:Re:  DECTAlk 4.4 Public 
> Domain?
>
>> Thank you. Much apreciated!
>>
>> Doris
>>
>> At 06:41 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>Thanks for the reminder, I sort of forgot about doing that. I will do it 
>>>in future.
>>>It'd be better to post these things as little reminders that only take a 
>>>few seconds to read, rather than have a repetitive paragraph about it, 
>>>quote someone as if they didn't know what you were talking about, and ask 
>>>why it's so difficult. I originally intended it to just be a little side 
>>>path of discussion. It didn't sound that way, but I just wanted to see 
>>>where it would go. Now that it's gone far past the original topic, I 
>>>changed it.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:31 AM
>>>Subject: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you introduce a new subject, why is it so difficult to either start a 
>>>>new message thread or at least change the subject line to reflect the 
>>>>question asked?
>>>>
>>>> From what I have read on this list, there is a lot of expertise on here 
>>>> and I am sure you guys are pros in communicating. could you please use 
>>>> subject lines that refer to what is actually being discussed on here? I 
>>>> get a lot of messages from all kinds of lists I am on and choose what 
>>>> messages to read by the subject lines. I do not open messages that 
>>>> sound too technical in nature on here, for example, but would have been 
>>>> intersted in the discussion on different dectalk versions or what is 
>>>> available when and where.
>>>>
>>>>For the question below, something like
>>>>
>>>>"British DECTalk Voice"?
>>>>
>>>>should be an easy enough subject to formulate
>>>>
>>>>Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>>Doris
>>>>
>>>>  h
>>>>
>>>>At 10:15 AM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor 
>>>>>anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did 
>>>>>like dectalk above rates of400 or so.
>>>>>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever 
>>>>>made?
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped 
>>>>>>him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to 
>>>>>>speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's the 
>>>>>>newer version where sonic had to be removed because it was crashing 
>>>>>>things apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2012-02-01 13:52, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>I was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same engine, 
>>>>>>>just different versions of the driver, and the newer one supported 
>>>>>>>voices but the older one didn't?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:43 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>About the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost 
>>>>>>>>every parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and 
>>>>>>>>inflection, so after you change voices you just need to manually 
>>>>>>>>raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 2012-02-01 03:18, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Doris,
>>>>>>>>>I discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I was 
>>>>>>>>>able to
>>>>>>>>>try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling NVDA. Both 
>>>>>>>>>NVDA-specific
>>>>>>>>>Dectalks have issues. In the first one, only Paul is available as a 
>>>>>>>>>voice.
>>>>>>>>>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4, 
>>>>>>>>>though I have
>>>>>>>>>no idea what DT version it is based on. The second Dectalk for NVDA 
>>>>>>>>>lists
>>>>>>>>>all 9 voices, but apparently is based on another version of 
>>>>>>>>>Dectalk. Some
>>>>>>>>>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like 
>>>>>>>>>he's going
>>>>>>>>>through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants to experiment 
>>>>>>>>>with/use
>>>>>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As far as  I know, Dectalk for 
>>>>>>>>>NVDA is
>>>>>>>>>not officially supported by the NVDA developers and I don't know 
>>>>>>>>>who created
>>>>>>>>>Dectalks for NVDA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem: 
>>>>>>>>>Freedom
>>>>>>>>>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier 
>>>>>>>>>version of
>>>>>>>>>Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk Access32 is no 
>>>>>>>>>longer sold or
>>>>>>>>>supported by FS, I sort of understand why  Freedom Scientific won't 
>>>>>>>>>fix the
>>>>>>>>>problem. Another member of this list found a workaround to make 
>>>>>>>>>Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling Eloquence.
>>>>>>>>>Blake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Doris and 
>>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>with all the discussion of singing dectalks, it was a couple of 
>>>>>>>>>times
>>>>>>>>>mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in the public domain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there a version of this or can one be made available that works 
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>screenreaders?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the 
>>>>>>>>>creativity and
>>>>>>>>>finesse and perfection that goes into those songs but this is 
>>>>>>>>>nothing I have
>>>>>>>>>any interst in persuing myself .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older 
>>>>>>>>>systems and I
>>>>>>>>>would love to have a working version to use with my screenreaders, 
>>>>>>>>>i.e. jaws
>>>>>>>>>and nvda. For nvda especialy it would be nice to have a free 
>>>>>>>>>dectalk
>>>>>>>>>version. nvda comes with espeak, which is free and open source. 
>>>>>>>>>espeak is
>>>>>>>>>certainly usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has much 
>>>>>>>>>clearer
>>>>>>>>>speech and would be much easier to understand for those used to 
>>>>>>>>>more human
>>>>>>>>>sounding synths.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>With all the time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and 
>>>>>>>>>talking
>>>>>>>>>about this, if there is a public domain version of dectalk 
>>>>>>>>>available, could
>>>>>>>>>some of the time and energy be devoted to giving us a free dectalk 
>>>>>>>>>to just
>>>>>>>>>use with screenreaders or a free sapi version?
>>>>>>>>>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to see something 
>>>>>>>>>that is
>>>>>>>>>usable for the broader masses and especialy for nvda users.
>>>>>>>>>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it would be such 
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>blessing!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Doris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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