[DECtalk] Dectalk/Text Assist jem

Wed Feb 1 21:58:22 EST 2012

I never got it to work on any soundcard other than my origional SB16, 
not even on later Creative Soundblaster cards.

Cheers,

Doris

At 09:44 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>What Dectalk/Text Assist jem are you referring to, Jake?
>Blake
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jake McMahan
>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:37 PM
>To: DECtalk Discussions
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
>
>
>
>-I happen to still have that text assist jem if anyone's
>interested-------------------------------------------------
>From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 7:11 PM
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] SubjectLines  - Was:Re:  DECTAlk 4.4 Public  Domain?
>
> > Thank you. Much apreciated!
> >
> > Doris
> >
> > At 06:41 PM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>Thanks for the reminder, I sort of forgot about doing that. I will do
> >>it in future.
> >>It'd be better to post these things as little reminders that only take
> >>a few seconds to read, rather than have a repetitive paragraph about
> >>it, quote someone as if they didn't know what you were talking about,
> >>and ask why it's so difficult. I originally intended it to just be a
> >>little side path of discussion. It didn't sound that way, but I just
> >>wanted to see where it would go. Now that it's gone far past the
> >>original topic, I changed it.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris"
> >><chipmunks at gmx.net>
> >>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:31 AM
> >>Subject: [DECtalk] SubjectLines - Was:Re: DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
> >>
> >>
> >>>If you introduce a new subject, why is it so difficult to either
> >>>start a new message thread or at least change the subject line to
> >>>reflect the question asked?
> >>>
> >>> From what I have read on this list, there is a lot of expertise on
> >>> here and I am sure you guys are pros in communicating. could you
> >>> please use subject lines that refer to what is actually being
> >>> discussed on here? I get a lot of messages from all kinds of lists I
> >>> am on and choose what messages to read by the subject lines. I do
> >>> not open messages that sound too technical in nature on here, for
> >>> example, but would have been intersted in the discussion on
> >>> different dectalk versions or what is available when and where.
> >>>
> >>>For the question below, something like
> >>>
> >>>"British DECTalk Voice"?
> >>>
> >>>should be an easy enough subject to formulate
> >>>
> >>>Thanks much.
> >>>
> >>>Doris
> >>>
> >>>  h
> >>>
> >>>At 10:15 AM 2/1/2012 -0500, you wrote:
> >>>>Well, the sonic thing wasn't a real big thing at least for me, nor
> >>>>anyone else I knew that used it. It sounded strange, and I never did
> >>>>like dectalk above rates of400 or so.
> >>>>Going off topic here, I wonder if a decent British dectalk was ever
> >>>>made?
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach" <pitermach at gmail.com>
> >>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:47 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Actually yeah. The driver was written by Tyler and I sort of helped
> >>>>>him out with it. The first version only did Paul and had sonic to
> >>>>>speed the rate up even more. I asked him to add voices, and that's
> >>>>>the newer version where sonic had to be removed because it was
> >>>>>crashing things apparently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 2012-02-01 13:52, Raymond Grote wrote:
> >>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>I was under the impression that both Dectalks were the same
> >>>>>>engine, just different versions of the driver, and the newer one
> >>>>>>supported voices but the older one didn't?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitermach"
> >>>>>><pitermach at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:43 AM
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>About the issue with the second dectalk, what happens is almost
> >>>>>>>every parameter is actually changed, except the pitch and
> >>>>>>>inflection, so after you change voices you just need to manually
> >>>>>>>raise the pitch or what ever to set it straight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On 2012-02-01 03:18, Blake Roberts wrote:
> >>>>>>>>Doris,
> >>>>>>>>I discovered the other day that two Dectalks for NVDA exist. I
> >>>>>>>>was able to try both out after obtaining them and reinstalling
> >>>>>>>>NVDA. Both NVDA-specific Dectalks have issues. In the first one,
> >>>>>>>>only Paul is available as a voice.
> >>>>>>>>To me, that version of Dectalk for NVDA sounds similar to 4.4,
> >>>>>>>>though I have no idea what DT version it is based on. The second
> >>>>>>>>Dectalk for NVDA lists all 9 voices, but apparently is based on
> >>>>>>>>another version of Dectalk.
> >>>>>>>>Some
> >>>>>>>>of those voices sound, um, different. Example: Kipp sounds like
> >>>>>>>>he's going through puberty or something similar. If anyone wants
> >>>>>>>>to experiment with/use Dectalk for NVDA, write me off-list. As
> >>>>>>>>far as  I know, Dectalk for NVDA is not officially supported by
> >>>>>>>>the NVDA developers and I don't know who created Dectalks for
> >>>>>>>>NVDA.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Regarding Dectalk for Jaws, there is Dectalk Access32. Problem:
> >>>>>>>>Freedom
> >>>>>>>>Scientific broke Dectalk Access32 functionality in an earlier
> >>>>>>>>version of Jaws. Since a Jaws-specific version of Dectalk
> >>>>>>>>Access32 is no longer sold or supported by FS, I sort of
> >>>>>>>>understand why  Freedom Scientific won't fix the problem.
> >>>>>>>>Another member of this list found a workaround to make Dectalk
> >>>>>>>>Access32 work with Jaws which involves uninstalling Eloquence.
> >>>>>>>>Blake
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> >>>>>>>>[mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Doris
> >>>>>>>>and Chris
> >>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:56 PM
> >>>>>>>>To: DECtalk Discussions
> >>>>>>>>Subject: [DECtalk] DECTAlk 4.4 Public Domain?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>with all the discussion of singing dectalks, it was a couple of
> >>>>>>>>times mentioned that dectalk version 4.4 is in the public
> >>>>>>>>domain.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Is there a version of this or can one be made available that
> >>>>>>>>works with screenreaders?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I enjoy the dectalk songs I have heard and am amazed at the
> >>>>>>>>creativity and finesse and perfection that goes into those songs
> >>>>>>>>but this is nothing I have any interst in persuing myself .
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I like dectalk for its clear speech and low footprint on older
> >>>>>>>>systems and I would love to have a working version to use with
> >>>>>>>>my screenreaders, i.e. jaws and nvda. For nvda especialy it
> >>>>>>>>would be nice to have a free dectalk version. nvda comes with
> >>>>>>>>espeak, which is free and open source.
> >>>>>>>>espeak is
> >>>>>>>>certainly usable and I like its responsibeness but dectalk has
> >>>>>>>>much clearer speech and would be much easier to understand for
> >>>>>>>>those used to more human sounding synths.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>With all the time and energy devoted to making dectalk sing and
> >>>>>>>>talking about this, if there is a public domain version of
> >>>>>>>>dectalk available, could some of the time and energy be devoted
> >>>>>>>>to giving us a free dectalk to just use with screenreaders or a
> >>>>>>>>free sapi version?
> >>>>>>>>I do not know what would go into this but I'd like to see
> >>>>>>>>something that is usable for the broader masses and especialy
> >>>>>>>>for nvda users.
> >>>>>>>>nvda is coming of age and a decent free synth with it would be
> >>>>>>>>such a blessing!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Doris
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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