[DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions

Wed May 11 20:01:02 EDT 2011

Agreed, it'll be awesome.

Alex

On 5/11/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
> it's going to be good to test the beta versions.
>
> On May 11, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Corine Bickley wrote:
>
>> Great - I'll accumulate the questions that I see for a few weeks as we
>> test the voices, and I'll get as many answers as Peter and Martha can
>> supply, and then I'll ask the listserv to fill in more answers based
>> on your extensive use and experience with various synthesizers. You
>> have the experience to be the best beta testers - trying the new SAPI
>> DECtalk in all the various configurations that you use, ones that we
>> may not think of, and we certainly don't own all those different
>> machines and other synthesizers and screen readers.
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Corine,
>>>
>>> A list of FAQs would be a really helpful resource I think. This would
>>> help ensure that we get what we want and everybody is happy.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 5/11/11, Corine Bickley <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu> wrote:
>>>> Your questions and experiences concerning using various synthesizers
>>>> are a great resource for us all. I think it would be useful if Enable
>>>> starts a FAQ list based on your insights. What do you all think? Would
>>>> that be ok? Later this summer, I'll review the questions and formulate
>>>> a list and then post it and ask you all to supply answers based on
>>>> your experience. Let me know if you think this would be useful.
>>>> corine
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Brent Harding <bharding at doorpi.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Not only to mention, if you switch your synth to something like this
>>>>> and
>>>>> it
>>>>> plain doesn't work, one has no speech to switch it back.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:03 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm sure there are all kinds of versions of that synth. one version
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> coppying files and stuff like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 10, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that the version of Dectalk Access32 on Freedom Scientific's
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> designed for Jaws 3 or 4. This was back in the days of Jaws
>>>>>>> authorization
>>>>>>> diskettes.  I wonder if FS's copy of Dectalk Access32 will install
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> with a modern version of Jaws.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the past, I've tried using a couple different versions of Dectalk
>>>>>>> Access32 that I got from various sources. With one version, I could
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> get past "please insert authorization disk to continue". The other
>>>>>>> (stand-alone) version simply would not talk when I tried using it
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>> 11.
>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:40 PM
>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> one thing to note is the version of access 32 for jaws is still on
>>>>>>> fs's
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>> and may still work. i don't know if it does though. that uses dectalk
>>>>>>> 4.41.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 10, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, as far as I know there is no way to make a copy of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Access32 protected disk. Certain versions of Jaws used a protection
>>>>>>>> system called Quella. Those disks could be copied if you knew what
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> were doing.
>>>>>>>> However, the only copy of Access32 I ever saw used a protection
>>>>>>>> product called Everlock. I never found any way to make a faithful
>>>>>>>> copy
>>>>>>>> of an Everlock disk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for getting your authorization off the old laptop, have you
>>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>>>> that the floppy is not write protected? If so, the floppy could be
>>>>>>>> bad, in which case that copy is no good any more. Please note, just
>>>>>>>> copying the actual authorization files from the old hard drive to
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> on any other computer will *not* work. If you can figure out a way
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get the uninstall process to complete successfully, there may be a
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> for you to, shall we say, regain your two lost authorizations. This
>>>>>>>> would need to be done in DOS, since I think most if not all Everlock
>>>>>>>> disks I saw included DOS tools as well as Windows ones. There's a
>>>>>>>> program I have called Unlimited Installer. The way it works is, it
>>>>>>>> diverts all hard drive writes to a RAM buffer. So you have the
>>>>>>>> authorization installed, run the program, then uninstall the
>>>>>>>> authorization. Now you reboot. Since the hard drive never got
>>>>>>>> written,
>>>>>>>> the authorization is still there, as well as on the floppy. But none
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> that will be worth a hill of beans if you can't get the uninstall to
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Michael Hansen" <amtk62 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:00 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [DECtalk] Access 32 Legality Questions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a couple questions regarding legal use of Access 32:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it legal to install Access 32 from a Kurzweil 1000 CD without an
>>>>>>>>> authorization disc, since it pretty much installs regardless of
>>>>>>>>> whether there is one present or not?  I have access to a Kurzweil
>>>>>>>>> disc from school (that kind of software is distributed to students
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> free) but there is no DECtalk authorization disc.  DECtalk Access
>>>>>>>>> 32
>>>>>>>>> is there on the disc, and it installs regardless of whether there
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> an authorization disc or not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a copy of Access 32 from GW Micro that my parents
>>>>>>>>> obtained in 2002.  I have one authorization left (the others were
>>>>>>>>> lost due to computer crashes) and it is on an old HP laptop.  For
>>>>>>>>> some reason, when I go to transfer the data back to the copy
>>>>>>>>> protection disc, it will not work.  I haven't tried it in several
>>>>>>>>> months, but I recall a write error of some kind.  Assuming I am
>>>>>>>>> unable to find a way to get that copy protection off that laptop,
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> there a legal way I can get around the authorization since I *do*
>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>> the product?  I've tried contacting GW Micro, and they were no
>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Michael
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