[DECtalk] Any news?

Brandon Misch bmisch2002 at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:52:16 EDT 2011


i know. it sounds like what dectalk would sound like if first made today. 

On May 5, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:

> Lol. That's a good one. Personally I think someone could get away with 
> saying it sounds like anything, but Classic Dectalk.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thanks for the kind words. I've let a few of my friends hear the audio and
>> they agree with everything said here, that it definitely needs more work.
>> One guy said it sounds like buffalos in a bathtub. His words, not mine.
>> Jayson
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Raymond Grote" <musicalman1 at comcast.net>
>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>> good to hear the mod is on our side. I'm used to mods hounding as soon as
>>> something bad and discouraging is said.
>>> I have several friends, who, while not on this list, are expressing their
>>> frustration as I get them up to date. Not that it will do much good.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I just want to clarify one thing. According to Snoopi, the programmer
>>>> will
>>>> not be allowed to join this list. I would like to clarify that I am the
>>>> owner and sole moderator of this list. Anyone who wishes to join this
>>>> list
>>>> is welcome to, so long as they're not a spammer or anything like that. 
>>>> So
>>>> list moderation is not responsible for this decision, probably company
>>>> policy.
>>>> On a similar note, I don't mind any of the discussion that's been going
>>>> on
>>>> these last two days. Not that it looks like we've accomplished much, but
>>>> discussion is always good.
>>>> Jayson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> i know but why won't the programmer be allowed to join? seems kind of
>>>>> weird
>>>>> that a person won't be allowed to join a list such as this
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, I guess better to release it now than possibly put more money
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's just crazy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/5/11, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ugh!  I just got word.  The programmer won't  be allowed to join and
>>>>>>> they're doing an "As is" release.   (SIGH)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can't write any more.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see.  hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ 
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed  at all.  It's
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> else and I've been instructed not to post the  name.  Actually I've
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> to stop writing about the  programmer.  But just to be clear, it's 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>> it's someone  else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)   writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you  were told. I
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what  comes out of it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44  PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows  the programmer will 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> person on here.  I just might not post  anything if this person does
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> up.  After all, I got told I  don't know what I'm talking about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This person is smart, I just needed to  vent.  I work out of a
>>>>>>> bedroom,
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> kind of trapped here  because the house is not wheelchair accessible,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> after I was told I  didn't know what I was talking about, I needed to
>>>>>>> vent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)   writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him  out if I could.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really  need to be made.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011  2:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have total faith in this list!  We  all know what we're doing, so
>>>>>>> lets
>>>>>>> work together and come up with  something for this programmer.  I 
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> person is doing  their best, but this is guess work.  Maybe we can
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of  the guessing out of it?  Lets show this person we know our 
>>>>>>> stuff!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)   writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think it's much use. As I  have been saying, someone has
>>>>>>> messsed
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> because of lack of  knowledge, and is being rather stubborn about
>>>>>>> admitting
>>>>>>> that  something needs fixed.
>>>>>>> If we as a list could somehow make it  work, I'd say this thing would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> turning a whole new direction.  For now we can only provide feedback
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> test.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From:  _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>>>>>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05,  2011 8:28 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown  the programmers other
>>>>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show  them voices like betty so
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> can see
>>>>>>> where the loud pops are  coming from.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ 
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have  done that.  We sent a sample of
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> 4.40 to the head  programmer to show how things should sound.  We got
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This  person
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be  whispering.  Hello, why does this
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> think the name  is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I  that this person doesn't know
>>>>>>> Dectalk.
>>>>>>> And if version  4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope if
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> anything right.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the  project gets scrapped because 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> becoming in insult to  Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)   writes:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the  guys so they could
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H.  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they  need to do is convince this
>>>>>>>> guy
>>>>>>>> that he's wrong and  there is a huge, huge difference in this 
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> and  the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a early  age
>>>>>>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess  nasal tones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On  5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>>>>>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be  a Sapi Dectalk, guess 
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>>> look at  Neospeech voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad the  head
>>>>>>> programer
>>>>>>>>> can't tell the difference between  the Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk 4.3
>>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi  version of Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>>>>>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>>>>>>>> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list  member to point out need 
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> improvement.  I agree with you that there are clipping/  drop-out
>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I agree the  SAPI Dectalk  referred to as 4.3 is
>>>>>>>>>> unlike
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I,  too, am unwilling to 
>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> SAPI  Dectalk.
>>>>>>>>>> Blake
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex  H.
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59  PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree  with Snoopi, it's
>>>>>>>>>> terrible.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know who  was telling you that nothing's wrong, but this
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk  version I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That  being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah
>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> issues with clipping and  dropouts in the voices, especially with
>>>>>>> Ursula
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Rita.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we  should give up quite yet though, good things 
>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> who wait. Giving up  on this would mean that I and other users of
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's  great speech.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On  5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One clarification. From what I  understand, Enable didn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> purchase
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to  sell,
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> full copyright. As I  understand it, the copyright of DECtalk is
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong  though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon  Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7  at one time. i doubt this project will please
>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab  purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from
>>>>>>>>>>> fonix
>>>>>>>>>>> and trying to use that with the  4.3 data files wasn't a good
>>>>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk?  or
>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> this  version?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4,  2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old  dectalk 4.3 days. I really
>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> got  into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> stilll  do
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a  special place together even though I was never a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major  disappointment for many of us is it
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse,  and to some of us it is unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>>>>> my  understanding,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth  was supposed to sound like
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to  4.3?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5  synth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's  all
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it  needs for it to be a screen reader  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On  May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo.  And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty  cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound  too bad either.  It kind of reminds me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds  almost like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version  of dectalk has more inflection
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I  like lots of inflection in synthes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them  sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool  lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a  computer with Jaws with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it,  and I used to go in there and make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> say things  lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May  04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages,  you'll see a link to a file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use  paul and a few others, it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not for all  voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM,  <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get  the audio samples of the sapi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dectalk
>>>>>>> from?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys  have already heard it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:  Brandon Misch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday,  May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work  while others don't. i can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant by bad  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17  PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>>>>>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the  sample that people wanted.  Blake and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both told that there  is no problem.  Tell that to our  ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that means  is what you are sent is not acceptable don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at  this point in my life I need it as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anybody  else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at  10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves  because I don't think you guys will like 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is  Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to  be linked with this pour Dectalk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality.
>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>>>> fun  guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I  assume you can use DECtalk commands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text?  An
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this exact text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>>>>>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme  on]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the  factory default Paul  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now  with this voice since this is what most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be  using. Let's speed it up a  bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:ra  300]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably  how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put some  intonation in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good  old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and  earlier, if you could get used to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you would over  time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to  again, not having had it for so  long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this  demo was created a few months ago to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test the various  other factory voices and several custom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voices
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk  versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will now  test the other voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor  Dennis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity  Ursula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm  Whispering Wendy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]  and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the  DECtalk manual describe  us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]     Perfect Paul         Standard male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nb]   Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nh]   Huge Harry      Deep male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]   Frail Frank         Older male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]   Kit the Kid         Child's voice (about 10  years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nr]     Rough Rita      Deep female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu]   Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd]   Doctor Dennis   Breathy male  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nw]   Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a  few custom voices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]  [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer  from Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lister,  we are being tested! I don't know what to  do!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv  br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is  Lister.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come  over here and help me with this new speech
>>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv  as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is  Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an  important announcement. All persons aboard this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are to report to  the voice calibration office at once. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100  lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>> 110
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr 150  sx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra  210] This is the voice of the  toaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know  where this voice calibration office is. Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want some  toast?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1  hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice  needs to be calibrated? I want  fishies!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0  bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Queeg  500.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None of you have  any credit, so you may not use the voice
>>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv  as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm  the newer voice of  Holly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking  something up. It's another ship. Its name is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deck
>>>>>>> Talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something very  close. They have been conducting an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on us  all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. That would  explain why we've been saying all these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having  trouble finding a record of any  voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calibration office  on Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine  Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02  AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI  Jayson,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do  that. Could you suggest some sample sentences  to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're  trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website  so people can type in any text they'd like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our  programmer hasn't been able to spend time on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> project right  now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011  at 8:12 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you  have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate  on what people don't like. I pretty much know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds  like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i  can't hear the differences, not being so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attuned
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   differences in  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May  3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you  actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are  there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>>>>>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>>>>>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for  testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On  Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI  DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_
>>>>>>> (http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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