[DECtalk] Any news?

johnnybrl at gmail.com johnnybrl at gmail.com
Thu May 5 22:05:08 EDT 2011


ug, I'm just listening to Red Dwarf using the speak window that Blake sent 
me and it sounds pretty bad.  Sometimes the voices sound like they're kind 
of cutting off.  I'll consider getting the Dectalk Sapi if they're able to 
make it sound better.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?


>I was also under the impression that the testers were supposed to give
> feedback about the project and so on, but when they did, they got
> nothing but snide remarks that it's the same, "you don't know what
> you're talking about," etc. That sort of thing is just not cool,
> seeing as you're supposed to sell this! I hope nobody buys this just
> to proove the point that this is just not even close to being ready
> for any type of release!
>
> But I suppose, at this rate we're just screaming at the wind and
> nothing will change.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> On 5/5/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure it will. The least we can do is not buy it and discourage
>> others from using it, unless they decide to make a change. I am hoping 
>> they
>> will, but I'm very sure they won't.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Brandon Misch
>>   To: DECtalk Discussions
>>   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:22 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>>   sounds like it's going to be released no matter what and even if some 
>> on
>> this list want it scrapped it looks like this will be released.
>>
>>
>>   On May 5, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Bingo!  That's why it would be better to scrap it.  If released as 
>> is,
>> it messes with a dead man's life long reputation.  I'm sick over this!
>>
>>
>>     SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>
>>     In a message dated 5/5/2011 7:21:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>       What's worse is that, if this gets released in its current state, 
>> any
>> good
>>       name DECtalk may have had will get tarnished. We all thought Force 
>> did
>>       horrible things with it. Now this! Someone who sees that a SAPI
>> version of
>>       DECtalk is available is likely to get excited if they know what
>> DECtalk is.
>>       When they put down their bucks to actually buy the thing, I hate to
>> even
>>       think what the reactions will be. This is ridiculous, and an insult 
>> to
>>       Dennis Klatt.
>>       Someone who just wants a SAPI synth who has no idea what DECtalk is
>> might
>>       find the Paul voice acceptable. It sounds like an old guy, which is
>>       certainly *not!* how it's supposed to sound. But I'd love to tell 
>> such
>> a
>>       person to type [:nu] and see what happens after that.
>>       Jayson
>>
>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>       From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>>       To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>       Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:14 PM
>>       Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>>
>>       >I guess they're just tired of hearing that something's wrong? 
>> Sounds
>>       > like a give-up stratagy to me. Funny thing is, probably nobody 
>> will
>>       > buy this unless they want to just use Paul or enjoy the sounds of
>>       > clipping mutated DECTalks or something.
>>       >
>>       > Alex
>>       >
>>       > On 5/5/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>       >> What the? This product, as we've seen it, is absolutely nowhere
>> near
>>       >> ready
>>       >> for release. It has several obvious bugs. One of the more 
>> crippling
>> and
>>       >> totally ridiculous in my opinion is that some of the factory
>> default
>>       >> voices
>>       >> are virtually unusable because their parameters are incorrect.
>> Factory
>>       >> voices, mind you. Not something some user has messed around with
>> and
>>       >> screwed
>>       >> up. Default voices, which are supposed to be usable. Sigh.
>>       >> Jayson
>>       >>
>>       >> ----- Original Message -----
>>       >> From: <Dectalk at aol.com>
>>       >> To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>       >> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:54 PM
>>       >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>       >>
>>       >>
>>       >>> Ugh!  I just got word.  The programmer won't  be allowed to 
>> join
>> and
>>       >>> they're doing an "As is" release.   (SIGH)
>>       >>>
>>       >>> I can't write any more.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 4:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>       >>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>       >>>
>>       >>> I see.  hope that this project gets fixed soon.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> On May 5, 2011, at 4:12 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>       >>> wrote:
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed  at all.  It's
>> someone
>>       >>> else and I've been instructed not to post the  name.  Actually
>> I've been
>>       >>> told
>>       >>> to stop writing about the  programmer.  But just to be clear, 
>> it's
>> not
>>       >>> Ed,
>>       >>> it's someone  else.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>       >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>>       >>>
>>       >>> Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you  were 
>> told.
>> I
>>       >>> really
>>       >>> hoep we can get him on this list and see what  comes out of it.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>       >>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>       >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44  PM
>>       >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows  the programmer 
>> will
>> get
>>       >>> that
>>       >>> person on here.  I just might not post  anything if this person
>> does
>>       >>> show
>>       >>> up.  After all, I got told I  don't know what I'm talking 
>> about.
>>       >>>
>>       >>> This person is smart, I just needed to  vent.  I work out of a
>> bedroom,
>>       >>> I'm
>>       >>> kind of trapped here  because the house is not wheelchair
>> accessible,
>>       >>> and
>>       >>> after I was told I  didn't know what I was talking about, I 
>> needed
>> to
>>       >>> vent.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>       >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>>       >>>
>>       >>> I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him  out if I
>> could.
>>       >>> I'm
>>       >>> sure some of us would too. Some changes really  need to be 
>> made.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>       >>> From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>       >>> To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011  2:57 PM
>>       >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> I have total faith in this list!  We  all know what we're 
>> doing,
>> so lets
>>       >>> work together and come up with  something for this programmer. 
>> I
>> know
>>       >>> this
>>       >>> person is doing  their best, but this is guess work.  Maybe we 
>> can
>> take
>>       >>> some
>>       >>> of  the guessing out of it?  Lets show this person we know our
>> stuff!
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>       >>> _musicalman1 at comcast.net_ (mailto:musicalman1 at comcast.net)
>> writes:
>>       >>>
>>       >>> I don't think it's much use. As I  have been saying, someone 
>> has
>> messsed
>>       >>> up
>>       >>> because of lack of  knowledge, and is being rather stubborn 
>> about
>>       >>> admitting
>>       >>> that  something needs fixed.
>>       >>> If we as a list could somehow make it  work, I'd say this thing
>> would be
>>       >>> turning a whole new direction.  For now we can only provide
>> feedback and
>>       >>> test.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>       >>> From:  _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)
>>       >>> To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)
>>       >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05,  2011 8:28 AM
>>       >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown  the programmers
>> other
>>       >>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show  them voices like 
>> betty
>> so
>>       >>> they
>>       >>> can see
>>       >>> where the loud pops are  coming from.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)
>>       >>> wrote:
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> The problem is, Blake and I have  done that.  We sent a sample 
>> of
>>       >>> version
>>       >>> 4.40 to the head  programmer to show how things should sound. 
>> We
>> got an
>>       >>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This  person
>> actually
>>       >>> said
>>       >>> that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be  whispering.  Hello, why 
>> does
>> this
>>       >>> person
>>       >>> think the name  is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>       >>>
>>       >>> It is totally clear to Blake and I  that this person doesn't 
>> know
>>       >>> Dectalk.
>>       >>> And if version  4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope 
>> if
>> getting
>>       >>> anything right.
>>       >>>
>>       >>> So because of this, I'm hoping the  project gets scrapped 
>> because
>> this
>>       >>> is
>>       >>> becoming in insult to  Dennis Klatt.
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>       >>>
>>       >>>
>>       >>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern  Daylight 
>> Time,
>>       >>> _bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)   writes:
>>       >>>
>>       >>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the  guys so they
>> could hear
>>       >>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>       >>>
>>       >>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H.  wrote:
>>       >>>
>>       >>>> I wouldn't give up just yet. All they  need to do is convince
>> this guy
>>       >>>> that he's wrong and  there is a huge, huge difference in this
>> version
>>       >>>> and  the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a 
>> early
>> age
>>       >>>> FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess  nasal tones.
>>       >>>>
>>       >>>> Alex
>>       >>>>
>>       >>>> On  5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)
>>       >>> <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>       >>>>> Well, since it looks like there won't be  a Sapi Dectalk, 
>> guess
>> it's
>>       >>> time to
>>       >>>>> look at  Neospeech voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad the
>> head
>>       >>> programer
>>       >>>>> can't tell the difference between  the Dectalk 4.6 and 
>> Dectalk
>> 4.3
>>       >>> versions.
>>       >>>>>
>>       >>>>> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi  version of
>> Dectalk.
>>       >>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>       >>>>> From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_
>>       >>> (mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>       >>>>>  To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>       >>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>       >>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>       >>>>>
>>       >>>>>
>>       >>>>>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list  member to point out 
>> need
>> for
>>       >>>>>>  improvement.  I agree with you that there are clipping/
>> drop-out
>>       >>> issues.
>>       >>>>>> Additionally, I agree the  SAPI Dectalk  referred to as 4.3 
>> is
>> unlike
>>       >>> any
>>       >>>>>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I,  too, am unwilling 
>> to
>> give
>>       >>>>>> up
>>       >>> on
>>       >>>>>> SAPI  Dectalk.
>>       >>>>>> Blake
>>       >>>>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>       >>>>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com)
>>       >>>>>>  [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Alex
>> H.
>>       >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59  PM
>>       >>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>       >>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>       >>>>>>
>>       >>>>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree  with Snoopi, 
>> it's
>>       >>>>>> terrible.
>>       >>>>>> I don't know who  was telling you that nothing's wrong, but
>> this
>>       >>> doesn't
>>       >>>>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk  version I've heard.
>>       >>>>>>
>>       >>>>>> That  being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but 
>> yeah
>>       >>>>>> there's
>>       >>> some
>>       >>>>>> issues with clipping and  dropouts in the voices, especially
>> with
>>       >>> Ursula
>>       >>>>>> and
>>       >>>>>>  Rita.
>>       >>>>>>
>>       >>>>>> I don't think we  should give up quite yet though, good 
>> things
>> come
>>       >>>>>> to
>>       >>>>>> those
>>       >>>>>> who wait. Giving up  on this would mean that I and other 
>> users
>> of
>>       >>>>>> NVDA
>>       >>>>>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's  great speech.
>>       >>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>
>>       >>>>>> Alex
>>       >>>>>>
>>       >>>>>> On  5/4/11, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>> Hi,
>>       >>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>> One clarification. From what I  understand, Enable didn't
>> purchase
>>       >>>>>>> the
>>       >>>>>>>  rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to
>> sell,
>>       >>>>>>> not
>>       >>>>>>> full copyright. As I  understand it, the copyright of 
>> DECtalk
>> is
>>       >>>>>>> still
>>       >>>>>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong  though, I'm no lawyer.
>>       >>>>>>>  Jayson
>>       >>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>       >>>>>>> From: "Brandon  Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>       >>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>       >>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>> it also was 4.6.7  at one time. i doubt this project will
>> please
>>       >>> everyone.
>>       >>>>>>> all we know is enable rehab  purchased the wrights to 4.6.7
>> from
>>       >>>>>>> fonix
>>       >>>>>>> and trying to use that with the  4.3 data files wasn't a 
>> good
>> idea.
>>       >>>>>>>  question is did this happen with other versions of 
>> dectalk?
>> or
>>       >>>>>>> just
>>       >>> with
>>       >>>>>> this  version?
>>       >>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>> On May 4,  2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old  dectalk 4.3 days. I 
>> really
>> never
>>       >>>>>>>> got  into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the
>> synth
>>       >>>>>>>> and
>>       >>>>>>>> I
>>       >>>>>>>> stilll  do
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>> have a  special place together even though I was never a
>> regular
>>       >>>>>>>> dectalk user. The major  disappointment for many of us is 
>> it
>>       >>>>>>>> doesn't
>>       >>>>>>>> sound like that, it's worse,  and to some of us it is
>> unusable.
>>       >>>>>>>> From
>>       >>>>>>>> my  understanding,
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>> someone had posted that the synth  was supposed to sound 
>> like
>>       >>>>>>>> 4.6.4,
>>       >>>>>>>>  then somewhere along the line it was changed to  4.3?
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>       >>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>       >>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>       >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 1:21 PM
>>       >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>  if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5
>> synth.
>>       >>>>>>>> that's  all
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>> it  needs for it to be a screen reader  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>> On  May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>       >>>>>>>>> cool just heard the demo.  And yes it doesn't sound like 
>> 4.3
>> but
>>       >>>>>>>>> the
>>       >>>>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty  cool.
>>       >>>>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound  too bad either.  It kind of 
>> reminds
>> me
>>       >>>>>>>>> of
>>       >>>>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds  almost like that.
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> And it sounds like this version  of dectalk has more
>> inflection
>>       >>>>>>>>> than
>>       >>>>>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I  like lots of inflection in
>> synthes,
>>       >>>>>>>>> makes
>>       >>>>>>>>> them  sound
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> cool  lol.
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a  computer with Jaws with a
>> Dectalk
>>       >>>>>>>>> express hooked up to it,  and I used to go in there and 
>> make
>>       >>>>>>>>> Dectalk
>>       >>>>>>>>> say things  lol.
>>       >>>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>       >>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>       >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May  04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>       >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> if you read below our messages,  you'll see a link to a 
>> file
>> with
>>       >>> the
>>       >>>>>>>>>  demo
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> inside. if you just want to use  paul and a few others, 
>> it
>> works
>>       >>>>>>>>> but
>>       >>>>>>>>> not for all  voices.
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM,  <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get  the audio samples of the 
>> sapi
>> dectalk
>>       >>> from?
>>       >>>>>>>>>> sounds like you guys  have already heard it.
>>       >>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>       >>>>>>>>>> From:  Brandon Misch
>>       >>>>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>       >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday,  May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>       >>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work  while others don't. i can 
>> see
>> what
>>       >>>>>>>>>> you
>>       >>>>>>>>>> meant by bad  quality.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17  PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)   wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_
>>       >>> (http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3)
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> The above link is the  sample that people wanted. 
>> Blake
>> and I
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> are
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> both told that there  is no problem.  Tell that to our
>> ears.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  (YUCK)
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)
>> writes:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> All that means  is what you are sent is not acceptable
>> don't
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  it'll
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at  this point in my life I need it 
>> as
>> much
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> anybody  else
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at  10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves  because I don't think you guys will 
>> like
>> it.
>>       >>> The
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  very
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> worst voice is  Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys
>> but  I
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> really don't want to  be linked with this pour Dectalk
>> quality.
>>       >>> Have
>>       >>>>>> fun  guys.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated  5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern 
>> Daylight
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Time,
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)
>> writes:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I  assume you can use DECtalk
>> commands in
>>       >>> the
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> text?  An
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this exact
>> text can
>>       >>> be
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> found  at
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_
>>       >>> (http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3)
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Now here's the text.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:phoneme  on]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the  factory default Paul  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking now  with this voice since this is what 
>> most
>> people
>>       >>> are
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> probably going to be  using. Let's speed it up a  bit.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:ra  300]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is probably  how Jayson's JFW would talk normally.
>> Now
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> put some  intonation in there.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk 
>> back
>> in  the
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> good  old
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  DOS
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and  earlier, if you could get used to 
>> this
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> which
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> you would over  time, this sounds pretty good! It'd 
>> take
>> some
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> getting used to  again, not having had it for so  long.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> The rest of this  demo was created a few months ago to
>> compair
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> test the various  other factory voices and several 
>> custom
>> voices
>>       >>> in
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> different DECtalk  versions.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I will now  test the other voices.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor  Dennis.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity  Ursula.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm  Whispering Wendy.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]  and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:np]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the  DECtalk manual describe  us.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np]     Perfect Paul         Standard male  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nb]   Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nh]   Huge Harry      Deep male  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]   Frail Frank         Older male  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nk]   Kit the Kid         Child's voice (about 10 
>> years
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  old).
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nr]     Rough Rita      Deep female  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu]   Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd]   Doctor Dennis   Breathy male  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nw]   Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  [:np]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a  few custom voices.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf]  [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra
>> 220] This
>>       >>> is
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer  from Red Dwarf.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Lister,  we are being tested! I don't know what to  do!
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv  br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 
>> hr
>> 30 sr
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 30]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is  Lister.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come  over here and help me with this new 
>> speech
>>       >>> synthesizer!
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv  as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 
>> 0]
>> [:ra
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 220]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is  Holly.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> This is an  important announcement. All persons aboard
>> this
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> ship
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> are to report to  the voice calibration office at once.
>> That is
>>       >>> all.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100  lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 
>> qu
>> 100 ap
>>       >>> 110
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> pr 150  sx
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra  210] This is the voice of the  toaster.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know  where this voice calibration office is. 
>> Does
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> want some  toast?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1  hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm 
>> the
>> cat.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Who says my voice  needs to be calibrated? I want
>> fishies!
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0  bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] 
>> [:ra
>> 220]
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Queeg  500.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> None of you have  any credit, so you may not use the 
>> voice
>>       >>> calibrator.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv  as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 
>> sr
>> 20  ap
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm  the newer voice of  Holly.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> I'm picking  something up. It's another ship. Its name 
>> is
>> Deck
>>       >>> Talk
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> or something very  close. They have been conducting an
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> experiment
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> on us  all
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  this
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> time. That would  explain why we've been saying all 
>> these
>> silly
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  things.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  I
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> knew I was having  trouble finding a record of any 
>> voice
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> calibration office  on Red Dwarf.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine  Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>       >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02  AM
>>       >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> HI  Jayson,
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> I will do  that. Could you suggest some sample 
>> sentences
>> to
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  synthesize?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> We're  trying to find a way to put a "demo play" 
>> button
>> on  the
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> Enable website  so people can type in any text they'd
>> like  to
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> hear, but our  programmer hasn't been able to spend 
>> time
>> on
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>       >>>>>> project right  now.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  corine
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011  at 8:12 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) 
>>  >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you  have any audio samples you could share? Maybe 
>> I
>> could
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate  on what people don't like. I pretty much 
>> know
>> what
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> DT
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds  like.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  Jayson
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  From: "Corine Bickley" 
>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>       >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" 
>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53  PM
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i  can't hear the differences, not being 
>> so
>> attuned
>>       >>> to
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm 
>> not
>> clear
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   differences in  quality.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May  3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you  actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What 
>> kind
>>  of
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  quality problems are  there?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message  -----
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  From: "Corine Bickley"
>> <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_
>>       >>> (mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions"
>> <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_
>>       >>> (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14  PM
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
>> chronologically,
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  just in terms of contact with DT) to send some 
>> more
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for  testing.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary
>> listening
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  results indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  corine
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On  Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <_ratguy at insightbb.com_
>> (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new 
>> going
>> on
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the SAPI  DECtalk?
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Jayson
>>       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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