[DECtalk] Any news?

Dectalk at aol.com Dectalk at aol.com
Thu May 5 16:12:43 EDT 2011


Just so everyone knows, I'm not talking about Ed at  all.  It's someone 
else and I've been instructed not to post the  name.  Actually I've been told 
to stop writing about the programmer.   But just to be clear, it's not Ed, 
it's someone else.
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
musicalman1 at comcast.net writes:

Very understandable. I did too, after hearing what you were  told. I really 
hoep we can get him on this list and see what comes out of  it.
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)  
To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)  
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:44  PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?


Maybe if we all ask nicely, someone who knows the  programmer will get that 
person on here.  I just might not post  anything if this person does show 
up.  After all, I got told I don't  know what I'm talking about.
 
This person is smart, I just needed to vent.   I work out of a bedroom, I'm 
kind of trapped here because the house is  not wheelchair accessible, and 
after I was told I didn't know what I was  talking about, I needed to vent.
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2011 3:32:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
musicalman1 at comcast.net writes:

I'd like to chat with him at some point and help him out  if I could. I'm 
sure some of us would too. Some changes really need to be  made.
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)  
To: _dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)   
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:57  PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?


I have total faith in this list!  We all  know what we're doing, so lets 
work together and come up with something  for this programmer.  I know this 
person is doing their best, but  this is guess work.  Maybe we can take some 
of the guessing out of  it?  Lets show this person we know our stuff!
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2011 2:47:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
musicalman1 at comcast.net writes:

I don't think it's much use. As I have  been saying, someone has messsed up 
because of lack of knowledge, and  is being rather stubborn about admitting 
that something needs  fixed.
If we as a list could somehow make it  work, I'd say this thing would be 
turning a whole new direction. For  now we can only provide feedback and test.
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Brandon Misch_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)  
To: _DECtalk Discussions_ (mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com)   
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011  8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?


i see where you're coming from. have you shown the  programmers other 
samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them  voices like betty so they can see 
where the loud pops are coming  from.   


On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ (mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)  
wrote:



The problem is, Blake and I have done  that.  We sent a sample of version 
4.40 to the head  programmer to show how things should sound.  We got an 
e-mail  back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This person  actually said 
that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering.   Hello, why does this person 
think the name is "Whispering  Wendy"?
 
It is totally clear to Blake and I that  this person doesn't know Dectalk.  
And if version 4.40 is  viewed as corrupted, there is no hope if getting 
anything  right.
 
So because of this, I'm hoping the  project gets scrapped because this is 
becoming in insult to Dennis  Klatt.  
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, _
bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ (mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com)   writes:

maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys  so they could hear 
that and how the other voices sound.  

On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:

>  I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince  this guy
> that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge  difference in this version
> and the real 4.3 version.  This new stuff reminds me of a early age
> FonixTalk or  something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
> 
>  Alex
> 
> On 5/4/11, _johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com)  
<_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ (mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>> Well, since it looks like there won't be a  Sapi Dectalk, guess it's 
time to
>> look at Neospeech  voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad the head  
programer
>> can't tell the difference between the  Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk 4.3 
versions.
>> 
>> O  well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of  Dectalk.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Blake Roberts" <_beroberts at hughes.net_ 
(mailto:beroberts at hughes.net) >
>>  To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>> 
>> 
>>>  Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out need  for
>>> improvement.  I agree with you that  there are clipping/ drop-out 
issues.
>>>  Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk  referred to as 4.3  is unlike 
any
>>> version of Dectalk I have ever  heard. I, too, am unwilling to give up 
on
>>> SAPI  Dectalk.
>>> Blake
>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>> From: _dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>  [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex  H.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59  PM
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>  
>>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with  Snoopi, it's terrible.
>>> I don't know who was  telling you that nothing's wrong, but this  
doesn't
>>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk  version I've heard.
>>> 
>>> That being  said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah there's  
some
>>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the  voices, especially with Ursula
>>>  and
>>> Rita.
>>> 
>>> I  don't think we should give up quite yet though, good things come  to
>>> those
>>> who wait. Giving up on  this would mean that I and other users of NVDA
>>>  wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great  speech.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Alex
>>> 
>>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith  <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
(mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  
>>>> One clarification. From what I understand,  Enable didn't purchase the
>>>> rights to any  DECtalk version. They only have the right to sell,  not
>>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the  copyright of DECtalk is still
>>>> held by Fonix.  I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>  Jayson
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <_bmisch2002 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bmisch2002 at gmail.com) >
>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> it also was 4.6.7 at  one time. i doubt this project will please  
everyone.
>>>> all we know is enable rehab  purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from fonix
>>>>  and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good  idea.
>>>> question is did this happen with other  versions of dectalk? or just 
with
>>> this  version?
>>>> 
>>>> On May 4,  2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old  dectalk 4.3 days. I really never
>>>>> got  into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth and  I
>>>>> stilll do
>>>>>  
>>>>> have a special place together even  though I was never a regular
>>>>> dectalk  user. The major disappointment for many of us is it  doesn't
>>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and  to some of us it is unusable. From
>>>>> my  understanding,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like  4.6.4,
>>>>> then somewhere along the line it  was changed to 4.3?
>>>>>  
>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 1:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>> 
>>>>> if this  was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5  synth.
>>>>> that's  all
>>>>> 
>>>>> it needs  for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>>  
>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And  yes it doesn't sound like 4.3 but  the
>>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty  cool.
>>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too  bad either.  It kind of reminds me  of
>>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds  almost like that.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> And it sounds like this version of  dectalk has more inflection than
>>>>>> 4.3  did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes,  makes
>>>>>> them  sound
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  cool lol.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Back in high school, we had a  computer with Jaws with a Dectalk
>>>>>>  express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make  Dectalk
>>>>>> say things  lol.
>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04,  2011 9:52 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> if you read below our messages,  you'll see a link to a file with the
>>>>>>  demo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it works  but
>>>>>> not for all  voices.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <_johnnybrl at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:johnnybrl at gmail.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the  audio samples of the sapi dectalk  
from?
>>>>>>> sounds like you guys have  already heard it.
>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Brandon  Misch
>>>>>>> To: DECtalk  Discussions
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May  04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> ok some of the voices work  while others don't. i can see what  you
>>>>>>> meant by bad  quality.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, _Dectalk at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Dectalk at aol.com)   wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> _http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3_ 
(http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3) 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> The above link is the  sample that people wanted.  Blake and I  are
>>>>>>>> both told that there is  no problem.  Tell that to our  ears.
>>>>>>>>  (YUCK)
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011  11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>>>>>>>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)   writes:
>>>>>>>> All that means is  what you are sent is not acceptable don't  worry
>>>>>>>>  it'll
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this  point in my life I need it as much  as
>>>>>>>> anybody  else
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at  10:48 AM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) >  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Brace yourselves  because I don't think you guys will like it.   
The
>>>>>>>>  very
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit.   I'd do the recording for you guys but  I
>>>>>>>> really don't want to be  linked with this pour Dectalk quality.   
Have
>>> fun  guys.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011  9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>>>>>>>> _ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com)   writes:
>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I  assume you can use DECtalk commands in  
the
>>>>>>>> text?  An
>>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak  application performing this exact text can  
be
>>>>>>>> found  at
>>>>>>>> _http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3_ 
(http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3) 
>>>>>>>>  Now here's the text.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> [:phoneme  on]
>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>> Hello. This is the  factory default Paul voice.
>>>>>>>>  I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most people  
are
>>>>>>>> probably going to be  using. Let's speed it up a  bit.
>>>>>>>> [:ra  300]
>>>>>>>> This is probably how  Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now  let's
>>>>>>>> put some intonation in  there.
>>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr  50]
>>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson  used to listen to DECtalk back in  the
>>>>>>>> good  old
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  DOS
>>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and  earlier, if you could get used to this  which
>>>>>>>> you would over time,  this sounds pretty good! It'd take  some
>>>>>>>> getting used to again,  not having had it for so  long.
>>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra  250]
>>>>>>>> The rest of this demo  was created a few months ago to compair  and
>>>>>>>> test the various other  factory voices and several custom voices  
in
>>>>>>>> different DECtalk  versions.
>>>>>>>> I will now test  the other voices.
>>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm  Beautiful Betty, the default female  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge  Harry.
>>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor  Dennis.
>>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail  Frank.
>>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity  Ursula.
>>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough  Rita.
>>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering  Wendy.
>>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the  Kid.
>>>>>>>>  [:np]
>>>>>>>> Now I'll let the  DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>>>>>  [:np]       Perfect Paul       Standard male  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nb]     Beautiful Betty Standard female  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nh]     Huge Harry      Deep male  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nf]     Frail Frank           Older male voice.
>>>>>>>>  [:nk]       Kit the Kid       Child's voice (about 10  years
>>>>>>>>  old).
>>>>>>>> [:nr]     Rough Rita      Deep female  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nu]     Uppity Ursula   Light female  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nd]     Doctor Dennis   Breathy male  voice.
>>>>>>>> [:nw]     Whispering Wendy Whispery female  voice.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  [:np]
>>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few  custom voices.
>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br  0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220] This  
is
>>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from  Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>> Lister, we are  being tested! I don't know what to  do!
>>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br  0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr  30]
>>>>>>>> This is  Lister.
>>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over  here and help me with this new speech  
synthesizer!
>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0  bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra  220]
>>>>>>>> This is  Holly.
>>>>>>>> This is an important  announcement. All persons aboard this  ship
>>>>>>>> are to report to the  voice calibration office at once. That is  
all.
>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx  100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 ap  
110
>>>>>>>> pr 150  sx
>>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra 210]  This is the voice of the  toaster.
>>>>>>>> I don't know where  this voice calibration office is. Does  anyone
>>>>>>>> want some  toast?
>>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs  90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the  cat.
>>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs  to be calibrated? I want  fishies!
>>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf  0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220]  I'm
>>>>>>>> Queeg  500.
>>>>>>>> None of you have any  credit, so you may not use the voice  
calibrator.
>>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1  bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20  ap
>>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the  newer voice of Holly.
>>>>>>>> I'm  picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is Deck  
Talk
>>>>>>>> or something very  close. They have been conducting an  experiment
>>>>>>>> on us  all
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  this
>>>>>>>> time. That would  explain why we've been saying all these  silly
>>>>>>>>  things.
>>>>>>>>  I
>>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble  finding a record of any  voice
>>>>>>>> calibration office on  Red Dwarf.
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley"  <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_ 
(mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02  AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk]  Any news?
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> HI  Jayson,
>>>>>>>>> I will do that.  Could you suggest some sample sentences  to
>>>>>>>>>  synthesize?
>>>>>>>>> We're trying  to find a way to put a "demo play" button on  the
>>>>>>>>> Enable website so  people can type in any text they'd like  to
>>>>>>>>> hear, but our  programmer hasn't been able to spend time on  that
>>> project right  now.
>>>>>>>>>  corine
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at  8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>>>>>>  <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have  any audio samples you could share? Maybe I  could
>>>>>>>>>> elaborate on  what people don't like. I pretty much know what  DT
>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds  like.
>>>>>>>>>>  Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From:  "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_ 
(mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53  PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i  can't hear the differences, not being so attuned  
to
>>>>>>>>>>> the   various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear  on
>>>>>>>>>>> the   differences in  quality.
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3,  2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>> <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you  actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind  of
>>>>>>>>>>>> quality  problems are  there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----  Original Message  -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From:  "Corine Bickley" <_corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu_ 
(mailto:corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>  To: "DECtalk Discussions" <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:dectalk at bluegrasspals.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14  PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject:  Re: [DECtalk] Any  news?
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still  waiting for one of the "old" (not  chronologically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  just in terms of contact with DT) to send some more  versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for  testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary  listening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  results indicate  dissatisfaction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  corine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,  May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson  Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ (mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on  with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the SAPI  DECtalk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Haven't heard anything in a  while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Jayson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
(mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing  list
>>>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>  _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
(http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk) 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>  DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> _DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com_ (mailto:DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com) 
>>>>>  _http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk_ 
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