[DECtalk] Any news?

Raymond Grote musicalman1 at comcast.net
Thu May 5 15:17:52 EDT 2011 

Funny enough, I thought of that today. Unfortunately I couldn't do any more 
than you could on that.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?


> Hi,
>
> I think for the true (or very close to) DECTalk sound, we'd have to
> start from scratch and write an open synthesizer that sounded almost
> like DECTalk and change some parameter syntax to prevent Fonix from
> suing the crap out of the project.
> We'd be better off starting an open synth project but this would take
> way too much time, plus I can't program in any language, not yet
> anyway.  It's a big job writing any program, but something as
> subjective as speech synthesis is just insanely complicated.
>
> However, I guess for people who would want to use this SAPI DECTalk
> with NVDA, this version would be OK as Brandon says, but I certainly
> wouldn't pay $19 or $29 for it, IMHO.
>
> So it's kind of a chicken and egg situation here.
>
> Either way, I appreciate that work is going into this, and maybe if we
> keep saying something's wrong, we can get it slightly improved. Just
> my two cents.
>
> Alex
>
> On 5/5/11, Brandon Misch <bmisch2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> maybe they should send you samples of it on there computers and you can 
>> send
>> them samples back. either they sent you the wrong stuff or they may have 
>> a
>> different version than you do.
>>
>> On May 5, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> See, that's just it, we're told everything sounds fine on their 
>>> computers.
>>>  I don't get it, I really don't.
>>>
>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>
>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 8:55:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>> i hope they can hear the pops and loud noises for themselves that way 
>>> they
>>> can tell because those pops and loud crap is loud enough to make people
>>> stop listening.
>>>
>>> On May 5, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, considering we can't even mention the word "Programmers", they
>>>> obviously don't want to hear about problems or compare anything. 
>>>> (NICE)
>>>>
>>>> I think the pops are simply because the gn is set too high or the head
>>>> size is off.  The frustrating thing is I think it's simple fixes, but
>>>> being the person in charge can't even tell one version from another, 
>>>> it's
>>>> just frustrating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 8:28:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>> i see where you're coming from. have you shown the programmers other
>>>> samples like 4.61 etc? maybe you can show them voices like betty so 
>>>> they
>>>> can see where the loud pops are coming from.
>>>>
>>>> On May 5, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The problem is, Blake and I have done that.  We sent a sample of 
>>>>> version
>>>>> 4.40 to the head programmer to show how things should sound.  We got 
>>>>> an
>>>>> e-mail back saying our version sounded corrupted.  This person 
>>>>> actually
>>>>> said that Whispering Wendy shouldn't be whispering.  Hello, why does
>>>>> this person think the name is "Whispering Wendy"?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is totally clear to Blake and I that this person doesn't know
>>>>> Dectalk.  And if version 4.40 is viewed as corrupted, there is no hope
>>>>> if getting anything right.
>>>>>
>>>>> So because of this, I'm hoping the project gets scrapped because this 
>>>>> is
>>>>> becoming in insult to Dennis Klatt.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 5/5/2011 12:31:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> bmisch2002 at gmail.com writes:
>>>>> maybe you should send the demo file over to the guys so they could 
>>>>> hear
>>>>> that and how the other voices sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I wouldn't give up just yet. All they need to do is convince this 
>>>>> > guy
>>>>> > that he's wrong and there is a huge, huge difference in this version
>>>>> > and the real 4.3 version. This new stuff reminds me of a early age
>>>>> > FonixTalk or something with a lot of excess nasal tones.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Alex
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 5/4/11, johnnybrl at gmail.com <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> Well, since it looks like there won't be a Sapi Dectalk, guess it's
>>>>> >> time to
>>>>> >> look at Neospeech voices or ivona voices.  It's too bad the head
>>>>> >> programer
>>>>> >> can't tell the difference between the Dectalk 4.6 and Dectalk 4.3
>>>>> >> versions.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> O well, was really looking forward to a Sapi version of Dectalk.
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> From: "Blake Roberts" <beroberts at hughes.net>
>>>>> >> To: "'DECtalk Discussions'" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:06 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Thanks Alex for being the latest list member to point out need for
>>>>> >>> improvement.  I agree with you that there are clipping/ drop-out
>>>>> >>> issues.
>>>>> >>> Additionally, I agree the SAPI Dectalk  referred to as 4.3 is 
>>>>> >>> unlike
>>>>> >>> any
>>>>> >>> version of Dectalk I have ever heard. I, too, am unwilling to give
>>>>> >>> up on
>>>>> >>> SAPI Dectalk.
>>>>> >>> Blake
>>>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >>> From: dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> >>> [mailto:dectalk-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Alex H.
>>>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:59 PM
>>>>> >>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Just heard the demo, and.... Well, I agree with Snoopi, it's
>>>>> >>> terrible.
>>>>> >>> I don't know who was telling you that nothing's wrong, but this
>>>>> >>> doesn't
>>>>> >>> sound even remotely like any DECTalk version I've heard.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> That being said, the Huge Harry voice is kinda cool, but yeah
>>>>> >>> there's some
>>>>> >>> issues with clipping and dropouts in the voices, especially with
>>>>> >>> Ursula
>>>>> >>> and
>>>>> >>> Rita.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I don't think we should give up quite yet though, good things come
>>>>> >>> to
>>>>> >>> those
>>>>> >>> who wait. Giving up on this would mean that I and other users of
>>>>> >>> NVDA
>>>>> >>> wouldn't be able to enjoy DECTalk's great speech.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Alex
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 5/4/11, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't purchase
>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> rights to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to sell,
>>>>> >>>> not
>>>>> >>>> full copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of DECtalk is
>>>>> >>>> still
>>>>> >>>> held by Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
>>>>> >>>> Jayson
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>> From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please
>>>>> >>>> everyone.
>>>>> >>>> all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from
>>>>> >>>> fonix
>>>>> >>>> and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good 
>>>>> >>>> idea.
>>>>> >>>> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or 
>>>>> >>>> just
>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>> >>> this version?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really 
>>>>> >>>>> never
>>>>> >>>>> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth 
>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>> >>>>> stilll do
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> have a special place together even though I was never a regular
>>>>> >>>>> dectalk user. The major disappointment for many of us is it
>>>>> >>>>> doesn't
>>>>> >>>>> sound like that, it's worse, and to some of us it is unusable.
>>>>> >>>>> From
>>>>> >>>>> my understanding,
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like
>>>>> >>>>> 4.6.4,
>>>>> >>>>> then somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>> >>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth.
>>>>> >>>>> that's all
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3 but
>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>> Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>>>>> >>>>>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either.  It kind of reminds me 
>>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>>> the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more inflection
>>>>> >>>>>> than
>>>>> >>>>>> 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes,
>>>>> >>>>>> makes
>>>>> >>>>>> them sound
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> cool lol.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a Dectalk
>>>>> >>>>>> express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make
>>>>> >>>>>> Dectalk
>>>>> >>>>>> say things lol.
>>>>> >>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>> >>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file 
>>>>> >>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>> demo
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it works
>>>>> >>>>>> but
>>>>> >>>>>> not for all voices.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi 
>>>>> >>>>>>> dectalk
>>>>> >>>>>>> from?
>>>>> >>>>>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>>>> >>>>>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see what
>>>>> >>>>>>> you
>>>>> >>>>>>> meant by bad quality.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.  Blake and I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> are
>>>>> >>>>>>>> both told that there is no problem.  Tell that to our ears.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> (YUCK)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>> >>>>>>>> edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
>>>>> >>>>>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable don't
>>>>> >>>>>>>> worry
>>>>> >>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> much
>>>>> >>>>>>>> as
>>>>> >>>>>>>> anybody else
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will like it.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> The
>>>>> >>>>>>>> very
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> worst voice is Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys but I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> quality.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have
>>>>> >>> fun guys.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Time,
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk commands 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> in
>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>> text? An
>>>>> >>>>>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact text 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> can
>>>>> >>>>>>>> be
>>>>> >>>>>>>> found at
>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> people
>>>>> >>>>>>>> are
>>>>> >>>>>>>> probably going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now
>>>>> >>>>>>>> let's
>>>>> >>>>>>>> put some intonation in there.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>> good old
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> DOS
>>>>> >>>>>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> which
>>>>> >>>>>>>> you would over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take some
>>>>> >>>>>>>> getting used to again, not having had it for so long.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to compair
>>>>> >>>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>>> test the various other factory voices and several custom 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> voices
>>>>> >>>>>>>> in
>>>>> >>>>>>>> different DECtalk versions.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np]       Perfect Paul           Standard male voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nb]       Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nh]       Huge Harry      Deep male voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nf]       Frail Frank            Older male voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nk]       Kit the Kid             Child's voice (about 10
>>>>> >>>>>>>> years
>>>>> >>>>>>>> old).
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nr]       Rough Rita      Deep female voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nu]       Uppity Ursula   Light female voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nd]       Doctor Dennis   Breathy male voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nw]       Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220] 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> This
>>>>> >>>>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>>>>> the voice of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 30]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is Lister.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new speech
>>>>> >>>>>>>> synthesizer!
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 220]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is Holly.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard this 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ship
>>>>> >>>>>>>> are to report to the voice calibration office at once. That 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>>>>> all.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ap
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 110
>>>>> >>>>>>>> pr 150 sx
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does
>>>>> >>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>> >>>>>>>> want some toast?
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the cat.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want fishies!
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220]
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Queeg 500.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the voice
>>>>> >>>>>>>> calibrator.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ap
>>>>> >>>>>>>> 130] [:ra 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is Deck
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Talk
>>>>> >>>>>>>> or something very close. They have been conducting an
>>>>> >>>>>>>> experiment
>>>>> >>>>>>>> on us all
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> this
>>>>> >>>>>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all these 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> silly
>>>>> >>>>>>>> things.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I
>>>>> >>>>>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any voice
>>>>> >>>>>>>> calibration office on Red Dwarf.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HI Jayson,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will do that. Could you suggest some sample sentences to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> synthesize?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button on 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Enable website so people can type in any text they'd like to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hear, but our programmer hasn't been able to spend time on
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> >>> project right now.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> elaborate on what people don't like. I pretty much know 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> DT
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4.3 sounds like.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being so 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> attuned
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the  various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the  differences in quality.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> quality problems are there?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not chronologically,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> just in terms of contact with DT) to send some more
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for testing.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary listening
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> results indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> corine
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the SAPI DECtalk?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jayson
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
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>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> >>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> >>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> >>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> >> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> >> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>> >>
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> > DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> > http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DECtalk mailing list
>>> DECtalk at bluegrasspals.com
>>> http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/dectalk
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> DECtalk mailing list
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