[DECtalk] Any news?

Alex H. linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Wed May 4 19:28:52 EDT 2011


AS is, right now I could probably use this version with some serious
voice modifications but that kind of defeats the purpose in the first
place as I love the Paul and Harry voices.

Alex

On 5/4/11, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I really don't think they care, at least not the people who accuse Snoopy
> and Blake that they don't know what they're talking about.
> That's why I said, someone who knows about the different versions and how to
> port what to sapi.
> But, if we keep convincing them that something is wrong, which there is,
> something will get done. Either they'll give up or try to fix it. Or they
> could just disappear from the list which would mean giving up.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Brandon Misch
>   To: DECtalk Discussions
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:15 PM
>   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>   sounds lik it. whoever did this didn't make sure the voices sounded ok
> maybe someone should let them hear the female voices and see if snoopi and
> blake have bad ears or not. am not talking about Betty or Wendy but the
> other femail voices. Then they can decide who doesn't know what when it
> comes to these voices.
>
>
>   On May 4, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>
>
>     Oh my, too many version conflicts...
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Brandon Misch
>       To: DECtalk Discussions
>       Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
>       Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>       it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please
> everyone. all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from
> fonix and trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good idea.
> question is did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or just with
> this version?
>
>
>       On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:
>
>
>         Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really never
> got into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth and I stilll
> do have a special place together even though I was never a regular dectalk
> user. The major disappointment for many of us is it doesn't sound like that,
> it's worse, and to some of us it is unusable. >From my understanding,
> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like 4.6.4, then
> somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Brandon Misch
>           To: DECtalk Discussions
>           Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
>           Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>           if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth.
> that's all it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>
>
>           On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>               ----- Original Message -----
>               cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3
> but the Paul voice sounds pretty cool.
>               And Frank doesn't sound too bad either.  It kind of reminds me
> of the fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>
>               And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more inflection
> than 4.3 did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes, makes them
> sound cool lol.
>
>               Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a
> Dectalk express hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make Dectalk
> say things lol.
>               From: Brandon Misch
>               To: DECtalk Discussions
>               Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>               Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>               if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file
> with the demo inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it
> works but not for all voices.
>
>
>               On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>                 hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi
> dectalk from? sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>                   ----- Original Message -----
>                   From: Brandon Misch
>                   To: DECtalk Discussions
>                   Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>                   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>                   ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see
> what you meant by bad quality.
>
>
>                   On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>
>
>                     http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3
>
>                     The above link is the sample that people wanted.  Blake
> and I are both told that there is no problem.  Tell that to our ears.
> (YUCK)
>
>
>                     SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>                     In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time, edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
>                       All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable
> don't worry it'll be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as
> much as anybody else
>
>
>                       On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>                         Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will
> like it.  The very worst voice is Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys
> but I really don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk quality.  Have
> fun guys.
>
>
>                         SNOOPI BOTTEN
>
>                         In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time, ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>                           Hi,
>
>                           Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk
> commands in the text? An
>                           MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this
> exact text can be found at
>                           http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3
>                           Now here's the text.
>
>                           [:phoneme on]
>                           [:np] [:ra 250]
>                           Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>                           I'm talking now with this voice since this is what
> most people are probably
>                           going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>                           [:ra 300]
>                           This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk
> normally. Now let's put some
>                           intonation in there.
>                           [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>                           Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk
> back in the good old DOS
>                           days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used
> to this which you would
>                           over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take some
> getting used to again,
>                           not having had it for so long.
>                           [:np] [:ra 250]
>                           The rest of this demo was created a few months ago
> to compair and test the
>                           various other factory voices and several custom
> voices in different DECtalk
>                           versions.
>                           I will now test the other voices.
>                           [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female
> voice.
>                           [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>                           [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>                           [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>                           [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>                           [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>                           [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>                           [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>                           [:np]
>                           Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>                           [:np]       Perfect Paul           Standard male
> voice.
>                           [:nb]       Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>                           [:nh]       Huge Harry      Deep male voice.
>                           [:nf]       Frail Frank            Older male
> voice.
>                           [:nk]       Kit the Kid             Child's voice
> (about 10 years
>                           old).
>                           [:nr]       Rough Rita      Deep female voice.
>                           [:nu]       Uppity Ursula   Light female voice.
>                           [:nd]       Doctor Dennis   Breathy male voice.
>                           [:nw]       Whispering Wendy Whispery female
> voice.
>
>                           [:np]
>                           Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>                           [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95]
> [:ra 220] This is the voice
>                           of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>                           Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to
> do!
>                           [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr
> 220 hr 30 sr 30] This is
>                           Lister.
>                           Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new
> speech synthesizer!
>                           [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0
> sr 0] [:ra 220] This is
>                           Holly.
>                           This is an important announcement. All persons
> aboard this ship are to
>                           report to the voice calibration office at once.
> That is all.
>                           [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as
> 100 qu 100 ap 110 pr 150 sx
>                           1 la 0]  [:ra 210] This is the voice of the
> toaster.
>                           I don't know where this voice calibration office
> is. Does anyone want some
>                           toast?
>                           [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250]
> I'm the cat.
>                           Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want
> fishies!
>                           [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0]
> [:ra 220] I'm Queeg 500.
>                           None of you have any credit, so you may not use
> the voice calibrator.
>                           [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr
> 100 sr 20 ap 130] [:ra
>                           240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>                           I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its
> name is Deck Talk or
>                           something very close. They have been conducting an
> experiment on us all this
>                           time. That would explain why we've been saying all
> these silly things. I
>                           knew I was having trouble finding a record of any
> voice calibration office
>                           on Red Dwarf.
>
>                           ----- Original Message -----
>                           From: "Corine Bickley"
> <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>                           To: "DECtalk Discussions"
> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>                           Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>                           Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
>
>                           > HI Jayson,
>                           > I will do that. Could you suggest some sample
> sentences to synthesize?
>                           > We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play"
> button on the Enable
>                           > website so people can type in any text they'd
> like to hear, but our
>                           > programmer hasn't been able to spend time on
> that project right now.
>                           > corine
>                           >
>                           > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith
> <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:
>                           >> Do you have any audio samples you could share?
> Maybe I could elaborate on
>                           >> what people don't like. I pretty much know what
> DT 4.3 sounds like.
>                           >> Jayson
>                           >>
>                           >> ----- Original Message -----
>                           >> From: "Corine Bickley"
> <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>                           >> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>                           >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>                           >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>                           >>
>                           >>
>                           >>>i meant - i can't hear the differences, not
> being so attuned to the
>                           >>> various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm
> not clear on the
>                           >>> differences in quality.
>                           >>>
>                           >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith
> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>                           >>> wrote:
>                           >>>> Hi,
>                           >>>>
>                           >>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI?
> What kind of quality
>                           >>>> problems
>                           >>>> are there?
>                           >>>> Thanks.
>                           >>>>
>                           >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>                           >>>> From: "Corine Bickley"
> <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>                           >>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions"
> <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>                           >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>                           >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>                           >>>>
>                           >>>>
>                           >>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not
> chronologically, just in terms
>                           >>>>> of contact with DT) to send some more
> versions for testing.
>                           >>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but
> preliminary listening results
>                           >>>>> indicate dissatisfaction.
>                           >>>>> corine
>                           >>>>>
>                           >>>>>
>                           >>>>>
>                           >>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith
> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>                           >>>>> wrote:
>                           >>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new
> going on with the SAPI
>                           >>>>>> DECtalk?
>                           >>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>                           >>>>>> Jayson
>                           >>>>>>
>                           >>>>>>
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