[DECtalk] Any news?

Jayson Smith ratguy at insightbb.com
Wed May 4 16:39:19 EDT 2011


Hi,

One clarification. From what I understand, Enable didn't purchase the rights 
to any DECtalk version. They only have the right to sell, not full 
copyright. As I understand it, the copyright of DECtalk is still held by 
Fonix. I could be wrong though, I'm no lawyer.
Jayson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002 at gmail.com>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?


it also was 4.6.7 at one time. i doubt this project will please everyone. 
all we know is enable rehab purchased the wrights to 4.6.7 from fonix and 
trying to use that with the 4.3 data files wasn't a good idea. question is 
did this happen with other versions of dectalk? or just with this version?

On May 4, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Raymond Grote wrote:

> Yes, but many people miss the old dectalk 4.3 days. I really never got 
> into dectalk, but I can see why. That version of the synth and I stilll do 
> have a special place together even though I was never a regular dectalk 
> user. The major disappointment for many of us is it doesn't sound like 
> that, it's worse, and to some of us it is unusable. From my understanding, 
> someone had posted that the synth was supposed to sound like 4.6.4, then 
> somewhere along the line it was changed to 4.3?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brandon Misch
> To: DECtalk Discussions
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>
> if this was fixed up, it could still be used as a sapi 5 synth. that's all 
> it needs for it to be a screen reader voice.
>
> On May 4, 2011, at 1:13 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> cool just heard the demo. And yes it doesn't sound like 4.3 but the Paul 
>> voice sounds pretty cool.
>> And Frank doesn't sound too bad either.  It kind of reminds me of the 
>> fonix talk demo. sounds almost like that.
>>
>> And it sounds like this version of dectalk has more inflection than 4.3 
>> did, which I like. I like lots of inflection in synthes, makes them sound 
>> cool lol.
>>
>> Back in high school, we had a computer with Jaws with a Dectalk express 
>> hooked up to it, and I used to go in there and make Dectalk say things 
>> lol.
>> From: Brandon Misch
>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>
>> if you read below our messages, you'll see a link to a file with the demo 
>> inside. if you just want to use paul and a few others, it works but not 
>> for all voices.
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, <johnnybrl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hi, where did you guys get the audio samples of the sapi dectalk from? 
>>> sounds like you guys have already heard it.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Brandon Misch
>>> To: DECtalk Discussions
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>
>>> ok some of the voices work while others don't. i can see what you meant 
>>> by bad quality.
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Dectalk at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://pastorsnoopi.twigs76.com/music/SAPI%20DEMO.mp3
>>>>
>>>> The above link is the sample that people wanted.  Blake and I are both 
>>>> told that there is no problem.  Tell that to our ears.  (YUCK)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 11:16:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>> edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
>>>> All that means is what you are sent is not acceptable don't worry it'll 
>>>> be solved I promise at this point in my life I need it as much as 
>>>> anybody else
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Brace yourselves because I don't think you guys will like it.  The very 
>>>> worst voice is Kit.  I'd do the recording for you guys but I really 
>>>> don't want to be linked with this pour Dectalk quality.  Have fun guys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SNOOPI BOTTEN
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/4/2011 9:10:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>> ratguy at insightbb.com writes:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a sample text. I assume you can use DECtalk commands in the 
>>>> text? An
>>>> MP3 of the 4.3 speak application performing this exact text can be 
>>>> found at
>>>> http://www.bluegrasspals.com/dt43sample.mp3
>>>> Now here's the text.
>>>>
>>>> [:phoneme on]
>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>> Hello. This is the factory default Paul voice.
>>>> I'm talking now with this voice since this is what most people are 
>>>> probably
>>>> going to be using. Let's speed it up a bit.
>>>> [:ra 300]
>>>> This is probably how Jayson's JFW would talk normally. Now let's put 
>>>> some
>>>> intonation in there.
>>>> [:dv pr 250] [:dv sr 50]
>>>> Okay, this is how Jayson used to listen to DECtalk back in the good old 
>>>> DOS
>>>> days. With 4.3 and earlier, if you could get used to this which you 
>>>> would
>>>> over time, this sounds pretty good! It'd take some getting used to 
>>>> again,
>>>> not having had it for so long.
>>>> [:np] [:ra 250]
>>>> The rest of this demo was created a few months ago to compair and test 
>>>> the
>>>> various other factory voices and several custom voices in different 
>>>> DECtalk
>>>> versions.
>>>> I will now test the other voices.
>>>> [:nb] I'm Beautiful Betty, the default female voice.
>>>> [:nh] I'm Huge Harry.
>>>> [:nd] I'm Doctor Dennis.
>>>> [:nf] I'm Frail Frank.
>>>> [:nu] I'm Uppity Ursula.
>>>> [:nr] I'm Rough Rita.
>>>> [:nw] I'm Whispering Wendy.
>>>> [:nk] and I'm Kit the Kid.
>>>> [:np]
>>>> Now I'll let the DECtalk manual describe us.
>>>> [:np]       Perfect Paul           Standard male voice.
>>>> [:nb]       Beautiful Betty Standard female voice.
>>>> [:nh]       Huge Harry      Deep male voice.
>>>> [:nf]       Frail Frank            Older male voice.
>>>> [:nk]       Kit the Kid             Child's voice (about 10 years
>>>> old).
>>>> [:nr]       Rough Rita      Deep female voice.
>>>> [:nu]       Uppity Ursula   Light female voice.
>>>> [:nd]       Doctor Dennis   Breathy male voice.
>>>> [:nw]       Whispering Wendy Whispery female voice.
>>>>
>>>> [:np]
>>>> Okay, let's test a few custom voices.
>>>> [:nf] [:dv br 0 la 0 sr 100 hr 100 ap 150 pr 95] [:ra 220] This is the 
>>>> voice
>>>> of Rimmer from Red Dwarf.
>>>> Lister, we are being tested! I don't know what to do!
>>>> [:nf] [:ra 240] [:dv br 0 hs 95 ap 100 as 100 pr 220 hr 30 sr 30] This 
>>>> is
>>>> Lister.
>>>> Rimmer! Come over here and help me with this new speech synthesizer!
>>>> [:np] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 sm 0 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] This 
>>>> is
>>>> Holly.
>>>> This is an important announcement. All persons aboard this ship are to
>>>> report to the voice calibration office at once. That is all.
>>>> [:np] [:dv br 100 lx 100 bf 100 hr 100 sr 100 as 100 qu 100 ap 110 pr 
>>>> 150 sx
>>>> 1 la 0]  [:ra 210] This is the voice of the toaster.
>>>> I don't know where this voice calibration office is. Does anyone want 
>>>> some
>>>> toast?
>>>> [:np] [:dv sm 1 hs 90  br 0 ri 0 la 0] [:ra 250] I'm the cat.
>>>> Who says my voice needs to be calibrated? I want fishies!
>>>> [:nd] [:dv as 0 bf 0 la 20 nf 00 ri 100 hr 0 sr 0] [:ra 220] I'm Queeg 
>>>> 500.
>>>> None of you have any credit, so you may not use the voice calibrator.
>>>> [:nu] [:dv as 1 bf 10 la 30 nf 10 ri 100 sm 50 hr 100 sr 20 ap 130] 
>>>> [:ra
>>>> 240] I'm the newer voice of Holly.
>>>> I'm picking something up. It's another ship. Its name is Deck Talk or
>>>> something very close. They have been conducting an experiment on us all 
>>>> this
>>>> time. That would explain why we've been saying all these silly things. 
>>>> I
>>>> knew I was having trouble finding a record of any voice calibration 
>>>> office
>>>> on Red Dwarf.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > HI Jayson,
>>>> > I will do that. Could you suggest some sample sentences to 
>>>> > synthesize?
>>>> > We're trying to find a way to put a "demo play" button on the Enable
>>>> > website so people can type in any text they'd like to hear, but our
>>>> > programmer hasn't been able to spend time on that project right now.
>>>> > corine
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> Do you have any audio samples you could share? Maybe I could 
>>>> >> elaborate on
>>>> >> what people don't like. I pretty much know what DT 4.3 sounds like.
>>>> >> Jayson
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>> >> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:53 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>i meant - i can't hear the differences, not being so attuned to the
>>>> >>> various DT versions. i can hear ok, but i'm not clear on the
>>>> >>> differences in quality.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Wo, you actually got 4.3 working with SAPI? What kind of quality
>>>> >>>> problems
>>>> >>>> are there?
>>>> >>>> Thanks.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>> From: "Corine Bickley" <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu>
>>>> >>>> To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Any news?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Still waiting for one of the "old" (not chronologically, just in 
>>>> >>>>> terms
>>>> >>>>> of contact with DT) to send some more versions for testing.
>>>> >>>>> 4.3 and 4.67 work in SAPI fine but preliminary listening results
>>>> >>>>> indicate dissatisfaction.
>>>> >>>>> corine
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jayson Smith 
>>>> >>>>> <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Okay, it's broken record time. Anything new going on with the 
>>>> >>>>>> SAPI
>>>> >>>>>> DECtalk?
>>>> >>>>>> Haven't heard anything in a while.
>>>> >>>>>> Jayson
>>>> >>>>>>
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