[DECtalk] QUESTION

johnnybrl at gmail.com johnnybrl at gmail.com
Sat Apr 9 18:41:01 EDT 2011


Good luck to you. Hope the Sapi Dectalk will come out soon. I'm hoping to get it sometime on my birthday in June.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dectalk at aol.com 
  To: dectalk at bluegrasspals.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [DECtalk] QUESTION


  If the Dectalk source code is public domain, please send me a copy of it on CD, please.  I have a friend that programs, Dan Nordell, who is actually on this list but never post.  I'm thinking he could do stuff with the code because he's good!  Lenox version would be better for him because he's always talking about Lenox.  Actually I want anything I can get because if nothing else, Dave and I will learn this and fix it ourselves because I know part of what went wrong.

  You guys changed some phonetic coding that created a confusion in the rules of speaking.  Those phonetics need to be changed back.  And on the latest version that I have, the word endings are all messed up.  Now, I don't know code, but I do know what stuff I'm looking to change.  So if I can just figure it out enough to make the changes, I know I can do this, I just know it.

  Years ago I had a Liberator that was programmed in Binary.  Well, I wanted to change something but I didn't know Binary.  So I called a guy named Cliff, and in just 10 minutes he told me how to read enough binary to do the change I was wanting to do.  I found it easy!

  So I really feel that if I had what I needed, I'm smart, I can figure this out, I just feel like I can do this.  I know BASIC, I know a touch of HTML, I've seen C++ but never learned it>  SO WHAT EVER LANGUAGE THIS IS, I'LL JUST GRAB A BOOK FOR DUMMIES AND ASK TONS OF QUESTIONS TO ANYONE I CAN FIND.

  Ugh, my caps lock went on, I don't feel like re-typing.  Anyway, I'd like a shot at this.


  SNOOPI BOTTEN 

  In a message dated 4/9/2011 9:51:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
    Why those things were changed I have no idea, but starting in the 1980s the speak code was distributed as example code so once in the public domain it's still in the public domain and that's what I'll try and dig up this the source code for it and the Windows programmer can modify it to their hearts content to do whatever they want. I must speech person who can code a little bit but when it comes to apps and not very good. But the speech code talks to the database the DECtalk application interface.
    There is a huge difference between being public domain and somebody supporting a download site companies just don't want to do that for lots of different reasons


    On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Jayson Smith <ratguy at insightbb.com> wrote:

      Hi,

      This is all very interesting. Personally, if the intent was for the source
      code to be distributed freely, I think it should be made available somewhere
      for download. In the case of the widely-distributed Speak43 application,
      there's just the one exe, no DLL's. Is the DECtalk code actually compiled
      into the Speak binary? I'd think if Speak were just an example program,
      you'd need to have your own copy of DECtalk separate from Speak.

      One other thing I always found annoying about Speak was that you couldn't
      read files longer than about 64K or so. So you couldn't take the Speak43
      program which does let you convert to wav and convert, say, a full-length
      novel with it.
      Jayson


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <edbruckert at gmail.com>
      To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
      Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 6:32 AM
      Subject: Re: [DECtalk] QUESTION


      > Actually speak it doesn't have a version. But I think I have an SDK
      > software
      > developers kit for DECtalk that includes the source code for speak. It was
      > widely distributed in the public domain, so it any Windows programmer
      > could
      > modify it for you. I can send it to you or send it to whoever you would
      > like
      > me to. Also don't give up on the regressed DECtalk. I expected to have to
      > do
      > some work as all my source code was advanced development code so I have to
      > roll things back and turn things off. Since I wrote all versions of the
      > synthesizer from 1990 on we can get pretty close. There were some weird
      > changes due to code that wasn't exactly correct and so was executed
      > differently different compilers. Also Dennis his original code did not
      > always do what the note said so was always a question with those as to
      > whether to turn right or left.
      >
      > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
      >
      >>  *Thank you for the verification.  I thought it was free to use and give
      >> out.  I've been doing it for 6 years.  It looks like it will be the only
      >> form of 4.40 that will exist.  I only wish the play key could have a
      >> control
      >> command because blind people can't find it.*
      >> **
      >> **
      >> *SNOOPI BOTTEN *
      >>
      >>  In a message dated 4/8/2011 1:27:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      >> edbruckert at gmail.com writes:
      >>
      >> Speak is public domain and always has been. It was originally sent out in
      >> source code as an example of how to interface with the synthesizer. So
      >> have
      >> no fears it is not licensed.
      >>
      >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM, <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
      >>
      >>>  *I'm throwing this question out because I'm totally confused.  The
      >>> Dectalk 4.40 speak window that comes with the Dic.en file and everything
      >>> so
      >>> it will talk.  6 years ago I was told it was public domain.  I think a
      >>> lot
      >>> of people pass it out, I include it in my software, I give it out for
      >>> free,
      >>> I've seen it available for download on Dectalk sites, and it was my
      >>> understanding that speak window versions of Dectalk were public domain.*
      >>> **
      >>> *I was just told today that it's not public domain, Fonix owns those
      >>> speak windows, yet in the same breathe you can't buy a license to sell
      >>> it.
      >>> What?  I'm totally confused.*
      >>> **
      >>> *Is the speak window Dectalk public Domain?  I had mine since the early
      >>> 90's and I thought it was public domain.  Mine was free and I even still
      >>> have the original demo it came with.  It never expires, reads any size
      >>> files, and I never even knew you could buy it, I thought it was free.*
      >>> **
      >>> **
      >>> *SNOOPI BOTTEN *
      >>>
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