[DECtalk] QUESTION

Dectalk at aol.com Dectalk at aol.com
Sat Apr 9 13:15:04 EDT 2011 

If the Dectalk source code is public domain, please send me a copy  of it 
on CD, please.  I have a friend that programs, Dan Nordell, who is  actually 
on this list but never post.  I'm thinking he could do stuff with  the code 
because he's good!  Lenox version would be better for him because  he's 
always talking about Lenox.  Actually I want anything I can get  because if 
nothing else, Dave and I will learn this and fix it ourselves because  I know 
part of what went wrong.
 
You guys changed some phonetic coding that created a confusion in  the 
rules of speaking.  Those phonetics need to be changed back.  And  on the latest 
version that I have, the word endings are all messed up.   Now, I don't 
know code, but I do know what stuff I'm looking to change.  So  if I can just 
figure it out enough to make the changes, I know I can do this, I  just know 
it.
 
Years ago I had a Liberator that was programmed in Binary.   Well, I wanted 
to change something but I didn't know Binary.  So I called a  guy named 
Cliff, and in just 10 minutes he told me how to read enough binary to  do the 
change I was wanting to do.  I found it easy!
 
So I really feel that if I had what I needed, I'm smart, I can  figure this 
out, I just feel like I can do this.  I know BASIC, I know a  touch of 
HTML, I've seen C++ but never learned it>  SO WHAT EVER  LANGUAGE THIS IS, I'LL 
JUST GRAB A BOOK FOR DUMMIES AND ASK TONS OF QUESTIONS TO  ANYONE I CAN FIND.
 
Ugh, my caps lock went on, I don't feel like re-typing.   Anyway, I'd like 
a shot at this.
 
 
SNOOPI BOTTEN 
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2011 9:51:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
edbruckert at gmail.com writes:

Why those things were changed I have no idea, but starting in the 1980s  
the speak code was distributed as example code so once in the public domain  
it's still in the public domain and that's what I'll try and dig up this the  
source code for it and the Windows programmer can modify it to their hearts 
 content to do whatever they want. I must speech person who can code a 
little  bit but when it comes to apps and not very good. But the speech code 
talks to  the database the DECtalk application interface.
There is a huge difference between being public domain and somebody  
supporting a download site companies just don't want to do that for lots of  
different reasons


On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Jayson Smith <_ratguy at insightbb.com_ 
(mailto:ratguy at insightbb.com) > wrote:

Hi,

This is all very interesting. Personally, if  the intent was for the source
code to be distributed freely, I think it  should be made available 
somewhere
for download. In the case of the  widely-distributed Speak43 application,
there's just the one exe, no  DLL's. Is the DECtalk code actually compiled
into the Speak binary? I'd  think if Speak were just an example program,
you'd need to have your own  copy of DECtalk separate from Speak.

One other thing I always found  annoying about Speak was that you couldn't
read files longer than about  64K or so. So you couldn't take the Speak43
program which does let you  convert to wav and convert, say, a full-length
novel with it.
Jayson



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From: "ebruckert Bruckert" <_edbruckert at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com) >
To: "DECtalk Discussions"  <_dectalk at bluegrasspals.com_ 
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Sent: Saturday, April 09,  2011 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] QUESTION


> Actually  speak it doesn't have a version. But I think I have an SDK
>  software
> developers kit for DECtalk that includes the source code  for speak. It 
was
> widely distributed in the public domain, so it any  Windows programmer
> could
> modify it for you. I can send it to  you or send it to whoever you would
> like
> me to. Also don't  give up on the regressed DECtalk. I expected to have to
> do
>  some work as all my source code was advanced development code so I have  
to
> roll things back and turn things off. Since I wrote all versions  of the
> synthesizer from 1990 on we can get pretty close. There were  some weird
> changes due to code that wasn't exactly correct and so  was executed
> differently different compilers. Also Dennis his  original code did not
> always do what the note said so was always a  question with those as to
> whether to turn right or  left.
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>
>>  *Thank you for the verification.  I thought it was free to use  and give
>> out.  I've been doing it for 6 years.  It  looks like it will be the only
>> form of 4.40 that will exist.  I only wish the play key could have a
>> control
>>  command because blind people can't find it.*
>> **
>>  **
>> *SNOOPI BOTTEN *
>>
>>  In a message  dated 4/8/2011 1:27:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> _edbruckert at gmail.com_ (mailto:edbruckert at gmail.com)  writes:
>>
>> Speak  is public domain and always has been. It was originally sent out  
in
>> source code as an example of how to interface with the  synthesizer. So
>> have
>> no fears it is not  licensed.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM, <_Dectalk at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Dectalk at aol.com) > wrote:
>>
>>>  *I'm throwing this question out because I'm totally confused.  The
>>> Dectalk 4.40 speak window that comes with the  Dic.en file and 
everything
>>> so
>>> it will talk.  6 years ago I was told it was public domain.  I think  a
>>> lot
>>> of people pass it out, I include it in  my software, I give it out for
>>> free,
>>> I've  seen it available for download on Dectalk sites, and it was  my
>>> understanding that speak window versions of Dectalk were  public 
domain.*
>>> **
>>> *I was just told today  that it's not public domain, Fonix owns those
>>> speak windows,  yet in the same breathe you can't buy a license to sell
>>>  it.
>>> What?  I'm totally confused.*
>>>  **
>>> *Is the speak window Dectalk public Domain?  I had  mine since the early
>>> 90's and I thought it was public  domain.  Mine was free and I even 
still
>>> have the  original demo it came with.  It never expires, reads any  size
>>> files, and I never even knew you could buy it, I  thought it was free.*
>>> **
>>> **
>>>  *SNOOPI BOTTEN *
>>>
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