[DECtalk] speech synths again (was: DECTalk 5.0?)

Alex Hall mehgcap at gwi.net
Wed Aug 25 14:42:36 EDT 2010


Personally, I would love to see both Eloquence and DT as sapi voices.
It is a true shame that these are not available anywhere as they would
let users of any screen reader or self-voicing app use their favorite
voice.

On 8/25/10, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Sure, use it as you wish. As I say though, what i say isn't facts, it's
> mostly my opinion, although I try to be accurate.
> Microsoft also can speed up pretty well but the quality of the voices just
> annoys me to the point of staying away from them. Eloquence is what I used
> back when I was in kindergarten just learning how to use a computer. Back
> then I didn't care how it sounded, I could understand it. I got used to it.
> I just liked it because it sped up very nicely, had pretty good
> pronunciation, and was nice an clear at least to my ears. The intonation
> doesn't bother me now, but I know it bothers many people.
> As for Dectalk, I just can't get used to that synth. For some reason, I just
> never really liked it, but many people do. I guess I'm just an opposite type
> of guy...
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Corine Bickley
>   To: DECtalk Discussions
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:28 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>
>
>   Thank you, Raymond - very useful feedback! I'm a member of an Acoustical
> Society standards committee on intelligibility of text-to-speech systems,
> and we are particularly interested in the opinions of users at high speeds.
> Is it ok if I pass along your comments to other members of the committee?
> They are all experts in TTS with many years experience (including Sue Hertz
> who developed Eloquence :) - she'd love to read you supportive comments
> about her system).
>   corine
>
>
>   On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Raymond Grote <musicalman1 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>     I'm not sure if I can answer your question, but I personally don't like
> Dectalk at high speeds. I use Eloquence most of the time, at speeds of
> between 65 and 85 percent, 65 for reading text and 85 for just navigating
> around and listening to short things like short IM messages on skype.
>     As for how fast this is, I don't really know. But I do know that dectalk
> just doesn't sound good at those speeds, it starts to sounds all garbled and
> all the words and syllables start to run together, making it difficult for
> me to understand. Eloquence doesn't have this problem.
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Corine Bickley
>       To: DECtalk Discussions
>       Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:18 AM
>       Subject: Re: [DECtalk] DECTalk 5.0?
>
>
>       Hi Alex,
>       I am particularly interested in knowing who uses DECtalk for screen
> readers because I'm part of an Acoustical Society's standards committee on
> intelligibility of text-to-speech systems. We have a particular interest in
> knowing what users of high-speed synthesized speech think, and can
> understand, as most of us on the committee only have experience listening to
> synthesized speech at conversational speeds. What's your preferred speed?
> Might you be willing to advise our committee?
>       thanks for considering - corine
>
>
>       On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>         Hi Corine,
>
>         I use DECTalk mostly on the Windows platform, and when I convert to
>         Linux I'll probably use it as well. I'm a screen reader user, and
> use
>         DECTalk Access32 with JAWS and Window-Eyes. For NVDA (my primary
>         screenreader), there's no supported DECTalk, which is why a SAPI
>         version would be really great.
>
>         My cell phone is a Windows Mobile phone, and I currently use Mobile
>         Speak for Windows Mobile and Fonix Dectalk 4.6.3 that's bundled
> with
>         Mobile Speak. So in short, I use DECTalk quite a bit.
>
>         I also use DECTalk demos to write songs and gingles, plays, etc.
> It's
>         really quite amusing having a synthesizer that can do so much.
>
>         When I can swing it, I'll look into buying a DECTalk USb and then
> I'll
>         have my favorite speech in a hardware synthesizer. I know, I'm a
> bit
>         crazy about DECTalk! :)
>
>         Alex
>
>
>         On 8/23/10, Corine Bickley <corine.bickley at gallaudet.edu> wrote:
>         > Hi Alex -
>         > I worked with Snoopi at Fonix (and before that at Force), and I'm
> interested
>         > to know how you use DECtalk - for what purposes and on what
> platforms?
>         > corine bickley
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Alex H.
> <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >
>         >> Hi,
>         >>
>         >> Best of luck to you with the CD's and DECTalk. I hope DECTalk
> doesn't
>         >> go by the wayside, it's a great synth and I use it almost
> everyday, on
>         >> my phone and my laptops. I'm planning on getting the DECTalk USB
> but
>         >> have yet to find a used one.
>         >>
>         >> Alex
>         >>
>         >> On 8/23/10, Dectalk at aol.com <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>         >> > I don't work with Fonix any more so I can't really  say.  My
> personal
>         >> > opinion is just ask.  I know a sapi5 is possible, I  just don't
> know if
>         >> they
>         >> > ever
>         >> > did one.
>         >> >
>         >> > BUT, let me tell you what my plans are.  I'm  finally on
> facebook where
>         >> > more people are getting to know me and my music.   At the end
> of
>         >> September
>         >> > I'm
>         >> > releasing my very first holiday CD.  I'm hoping  it does well.
> I have 2
>         >> > Churches that are letting me sell it, a CEO might  buy some for
> his
>         >> company,
>         >> > and I'm hoping for a big sale.  You can't count  on anything,
> but I'm
>         >> > hoping.
>         >> > Blake Roberts and I are giving this our best  shot.
>         >> >
>         >> > One of the things I want to get is the Dectalk Kit,  and I
> believe it
>         >> sells
>         >> > for $1000.00.  That kit will let me create a Dectalk  sapi 5
> version.  I
>         >> > think I can get the 4.0 kit version but I'm not  sure.  I want
> the
>         >> > oldest
>         >> > version I can get because the new versions  suck!
>         >> >
>         >> > Dectalk is going away because of lake of  interest.  But
> because of my
>         >> > music, there will always be disabled people  who want to get
> into
>         >> singing.
>         >> > Plus
>         >> > if device companies ever want  Dectalk,  I'll be able to pay
> the
>         >> royalties
>         >> > through this Dectalk kit and  sell the sapi 5 that I create
> with the
>         >> > kit.
>         >> >
>         >> > If my September release doesn't generate enough  orders, I'm
> hoping it
>         >> will
>         >> > generate a new generation of interest because I'm  planning on
> another
>         >> > CD
>         >> > release next March.
>         >> >
>         >> > My dilemma is, I need a new van because my van is on  it's last
> legs.
>         >> > So
>         >> > sadly the van needs to have priority.  But I'm  hoping to book
> a
>         >> > concert,
>         >> > and
>         >> > if I can do that, I should be fine.  I have  750 friends on
> facebook and
>         >> > growing, so I'm hoping for some  interest.
>         >> >
>         >> > So Dectalk is not gone yet.
>         >> >
>         >> >
>         >> > SNOOPI BOTTEN
>         >> >
>         >> >
>         >> > In a message dated 8/23/2010 1:27:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
>         >> > linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com writes:
>         >> >
>         >> > Hi  Snoopi,
>         >> >
>         >> > Thanks for the info on Dectalk 5.0. I guess I really don't need
>  it, I
>         >> > got four other demos plus FonixTalk. Do you think I'd have any
> luck
>         >> > contacting Fonix and requesting the demos?
>         >> >
>         >> > @johnnybrl, I  believe that FonixTalk works with the SAPI5
> engine but
>         >> > it needs to be  purchased. It is mentioned in the SDK and
> FonixTalk
>         >> > pages on their site  though. I wish DecTalk had a SAPI version,
> and
>         >> > direct access to the speech  parameters.
>         >> >
>         >> > Alex
>         >> >
>         >> > On 8/20/10, Ryan Chou  <rc4896153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >> >> wait what is phonix talk and could  someone please send me a
> demo?
>         >> >>
>         >> >> On 8/20/10, Dectalk at aol.com  <Dectalk at aol.com> wrote:
>         >> >>> As far as I know, Dectalk 5.0 was  only a beta  version.  I
> have it
>         >> > because
>         >> >>> I worked for  Fonix, but I can't give it  out.  My version
> SUCKS!
>         >> It's
>         >> >>> just
>         >> >>> slightly hard to understand.   If  they fixed it, it needed
> it!  But I
>         >> >>> would
>         >> >>> never  ever buy it or use it  because they changed a phonetic
> code and
>         >> > did
>         >> >>> a
>         >> >>> few other  changes.
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>> SNOOPI  BOTTEN
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>> In a message dated 8/20/2010  4:07:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
>         >> >>> johnnybrl at gmail.com  writes:
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>> Hi Alex,  Yes I think I've seen that  fonix has made a
> Dectalk 5.0 a
>         >> few
>         >> >>> years
>         >> >>> ago,  if  my memory is correct. However, I couldn't find
> where you can
>         >> >>>  download a  demo version of it anywhere.
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>> But Yeah  hopefully somebody managed to get  a demo copy
> somewhere.
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>> BTW, I sort of like the fonix talk6  voices,  almost like the
> fonix
>         >> > dectalk
>         >> >>> 4.6.4. And you can  also create wave files in  the program
> too.
>         >> >>> And I was also  wondering, is there a version of fonix talk
> that you
>         >> > could
>         >> >>>  use in windows like a Sapi5 engine? Was maybe thinking
> about getting
>         >> > it
>         >> >>> to
>         >> >>> use it with NVDA or Jaws.
>         >> >>> -----  Original Message  -----
>         >> >>> From: "Alex H."  <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com>
>         >> >>> To:   <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>         >> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010  9:29  PM
>         >> >>> Subject: [DECtalk] DECTalk  5.0?
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>>
>         >> >>>> Hey  all,
>         >> >>>>
>         >> >>>>  Been doing some research, aparently  Fonix made a Dectalk
> 5.0 before
>         >> >>>>  they started their  FonixTalk synthesizer.
>         >> >>>> Just wondering if anybody's  got  the demo of DECTalk 5.0?
> Can't find
>         >> it
>         >> >>>> anywhere  :(
>         >> >>>>
>         >> >>>>  Thx.
>         >> >>>>  Alex
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