[DECtalk] Status of the archive

peter Mahach pitermach at gmail.com
Wed Sep 23 10:59:46 EDT 2009


hi I'm very much making stuff with dectalk here locally and not only with dt 
but now... well, I can't upload anything as there's no ftp or anything.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matheus" <anm.0 at bol.com.br>
To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive


> man a dvd idea is awesome... just get all the folders and files
> in the archive, make a iso of it, and upload to a ftp server, but it
> will take a lot of bandwidth wen downloading, but i'd love to get the
> archive in just one download. i'd burn it to a dvd just to listen
> sometimes.
> and i agree, if there aren't enough peoples contributing to the archive
> these days, this is the best solution in my opinion. archive it, and
> move on.
> thanks.
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: shaun everiss <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> Para: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> Data: Quarta, 23 de Setembro de 2009 19:07
> Assunto: Re: [DECtalk] Status of the archive
>
> well I think it has, no more dectalk externals and the dectalk bar the 
> access32 system is becoming a quite old system.
> I think the archive should still exist for those that want to get it, but 
> I suspect there will probably be no real contributers.
> I think its time to change the archive, who said that dectalk could be the 
> only thing used.
> I wander if one should encourage other users of different synths to  do 
> music in those things and put it up.
> I know there are other synths up there but still I wander.
> At 06:43 p.m. 23/09/2009, you wrote:
>>I've seen a decline in the interest in making DECtalk sing. For a while
>>before I decided to hand the archive over to Tony, I didn't get any 
>>uploads.
>>And yes, I did turn it over to him because of bandwidth issues, which is 
>>the
>>strange thing. People seem to be infatuated with the archive. I don't know
>>what it is, but it seems either tons of people discover the archive
>>constantly, which seems rather unlikely. Or the same people download the
>>same files over and over and over again. I know that shouldn't be it 
>>either,
>>as it's rather simple to save a local copy of a downloaded file so you can
>>play it whenever you want, as many times as you want, forever, without 
>>ever
>>downloading it from anyone else again.
>>     Sad though this may seem, I pretty much agree with Tony that the
>>DECtalk archive has outlived its usefulness. When making DECtalk sing was 
>>a
>>hugely popular thing to do, there needed to be an archive of people's
>>creations. But now that's died off. That having been said, I don't think 
>>the
>>archive should be totally destroyed. Any time there has been an archive 
>>like
>>this one, I think it ought to exist in one form or another as long as
>>there's someone out there willing to allow it to do so. What I envision
>>happening to the archive is possibly a DVD ISO being made, or something
>>similar. That way, it can continue to exist, and be available in its
>>entirety if someone is willing to host it, as an archive now closed to new
>>submissions. That is, the archive is what it is, and will forever more 
>>stay
>>the same.
>>Thoughts? Comments?
>>Jayson
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
>>To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:54 AM
>>Subject: [DECtalk] Status of the archive
>>
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Please read this carefully.  Nothing has been decided yet.  I am seeking
>>> input from the list before I do anything.  Your thoughts are 
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> To give a little history, the archive was first managed by Andre Louis.
>>> He abandoned it and it was taken over by Jayson Smith who still manages
>>> this list.  Finally, I took it over from him because of bandwidth
>>> issues.  I've noticed a decline in new files since Jayson took it over
>>> with only one or two people regularly uploading.  Since I've taken it
>>> over, no mention has ever been made of anyone wanting to upload
>>> anything.  Therefore, I'm thinking that perhaps the archive has reached
>>> the end of its interest and usefulness.  The main reason why I never
>>> bothered to set up ftp uploading is because no one asked.  Likewise, I
>>> didn't set up rsync for the same reason.
>>>
>>> Here are some things that I'm considering.  When I originally took it
>>> over, I had great plans for it.  I wanted to go through every file and
>>> do some reorganizing, such as by creator or author.  I wanted to move
>>> some of the text files and software around.  As you can see, that didn't
>>> happen.  The fact is that I really don't have time to deal with it
>>> anymore.  I have severe health problems and am undergoing evaluation for
>>> a kidney transplant.  My kidney function is 25%.  I have way too much
>>> stress right now to give it the time it deserves, especially if people
>>> start uploading again.  That's why I've been quiet on the list and
>>> haven't asked people to upload.  Also, something that I wasn't planning
>>> on was a lot of hardware problems.  The machine it's on seems better now
>>> but was very unstable for months.  That's why the archive would go down
>>> for days at a time.  That should be permanently resolved now.
>>>
>>> I would like to make something very clear.  I am not immediately closing
>>> the archive.  Bandwidth isn't a problem for now.  I'm undecided what to
>>> do which is why I'm asking for input.  If I don't hear anything, I'll
>>> probably retire the archive in a couple weeks and eventually remove it.
>>> If someone else wants to take it over and can give it the time it
>>> deserves, feel free to volunteer.  It still gets a lot of hits and will
>>> suck your bandwidth without a limiter.  I guess I'm leaning towards
>>> closing it by the end of the year, but for now it isn't going anywhere
>>> and nothing will change immediately.
>>>
>>> Finally, there's something else to consider.  That is that a lot of the
>>> archive is either illegal or adult material.  I'm taking a big chance by
>>> making it available for download.  So far it has been fine but that
>>> could change without warning if my provider finds out.  It's low profile
>>> enough that I'm not too worried, but keep that in mind if you want to
>>> take it over.  I'm putting myself and others living here at risk because
>>> we could lose our Internet if I get caught.
>>>
>>> In conclusion, I haven't done anything with it since I took it over from
>>> Jayson and I have no immediate plans to change anything.  I'm looking
>>> for input on what to do, but I'm thinking of closing the archive due to
>>> lack of interest.  I can't really keep maintaining it and no one has
>>> asked to upload anything.  Unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably close
>>> it by the end of the year.
>>>
>>> Tony Baechler, current DECTalk archive maintainer
>>> tony at baechler.net
>>>
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