[DECtalk] mod talker

Jayson Smith ratguy at bellsouth.net
Sat Aug 19 07:11:35 EDT 2006


Hi,
Yes, I do mean the Jaws cursor.  Moving the Jaws cursor also moves the mouse
pointer.  I don't know how on a Laptop, but there are keys to left and right
click the mouse, once you've positioned it on something you want to click
on.
Jayson.

----- Original Message -----
From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker


> do you mean the jaws cursor, I have never used the mouse curser and I
> don't know how to use it.
> I don't even know which keys for laptop layout would do that.
> I can root pc to jaws and jaws to pc, I can go to pc or jaws cursors.
> At 10:08 a.m. 19/08/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Please read the Readme for both programs, and use Invtutor available on
your
> >desktop for the Invtool tutorial.  This will tell you what you need to
do.
> >The calibration procedure in Invtool is very hard/impossible for a blind
> >person currently.  I'm getting by without it, actually.  Other than that,
on
> >Win 98 SE, both programs are working quite well with Jaws.  You just have
to
> >use your mouse curser and clicking buttons a lot.  The buttons you need
to
> >access are labeled already so you can find what to click on.
> >Jayson.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> >
> >
> > > hmm harmonised speech like a vocoder.
> > > Would sound quite sifi.
> > > Are there any scripts or anything for jaws?
> > > I can't use either program mod talk and inv tool in that program, to
> > > a limited extent I can use hal but.
> > > I havn't been able to nut it all out.
> > > At 10:27 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >As I've said before, the developers know about the nonworking Sapi
thing
> >and
> > > >they're working on it.  It's most likely a bug in their software, but
> >since
> > > >they haven't yet been able to reproduce it themselves it's hard for
them
> >to
> > > >troubleshoot.
> > > >As for recording voices, I had some of the same thoughts you did when
I
> > > >first started, but this isn't a product out of science fiction.  The
fact
> > > >is, by default, there are one thousand six hundred forty nine
specific
> > > >things the system wants a speaker to say in order to generate a
synthetic
> > > >version of that speaker's voice.  This includes some sentences which
a
> > > >person using a communication device might use, some words, some
phrases,
> > > >some of which are reasonable and others don't make any sense (for
> >example,
> > > >"latching churches" or "darling potato") and some pure nonsense not
real
> > > >words which, I'm sure, is designed to capture several versions of
> >different
> > > >speech sounds.  This inventory of things to say is designed to
capture
> >all
> > > >of the sounds a person can make while speaking in the English
language.
> >In
> > > >order to make a voice out of a prerecorded thing, you'd certainly
have to
> > > >create your own inventory from scratch since you couldn't make, say,
a
> > > >character from a movie say the 1649 things it wants.  You'd also have
to
> > > >insure that every last speech sound got captured at least once.  For
a
> > > >demonstration of this, look at www.bluegrasspals.com/modeltalker and
grab
> > > >sample1.  Here, I had gotten to a point where several of the speech
> >sounds
> > > >necessary to speak what I had typed had not yet been recorded, and
the
> > > >result is gaps in the speech, since the system had no idea how to
> >synthesize
> > > >those missing sounds.  Also, there would need to be no background
noise,
> > > >music, etc. in the files, since that would only confuse the recorder
> >and/or
> > > >put undesired sounds in the speech produced.
> > > >Jayson.
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> > > >To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:39 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [DECtalk] mod talker
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well thats strange, I tried this with my software, sam didn't even
> > > > > detect the voice.
> > > > > And well every voice usually plays even in control panel/speech
mode.
> > > > > This one did not.
> > > > > Its a pitty this does not work as expected, as I was hoping to use
> > > > > the system for an unlimited synth thingy maybe some speech
recordings.
> > > > > Can this modtalker and invtool accept stuff from other files other
> > > > > than stuff recorded if they have speech in them?
> > > > > Or just wav files in general?
> > > > > That could open the way to some interesting voices already set as
> > > >synthetic.
> > > > > The trek comps come to mind, both voyager, tng, and tos as I have
a
> > > > > load of files on each plus the elete force 1 and 2, and ofcause
some
> > > > > borg stuff.
> > > > > At 09:10 p.m. 18/08/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >First, SAPI isn't working for lots of blind folks, and the
developers
> >are
> > > > > >aware of this.  The funny thing is, they can get SAPI working
just
> >fine.
> > > >I
> > > > > >told Tim to download and install the Jaws demo and see if that
makes
> >Sapi
> > > > > >stop working.  Since lots of blind people are having problems,
yet
> >the
> > > > > >developers can use Sapi just fine, blindness related software
could
> > > > > >certainly be a variable.
> > > > > >As for Invtool, please check out Invtutor which is available with
the
> > > > > >program.  This is a series of web pages which should get you
going.
> >As
> > > >I've
> > > > > >always said, there's lots of mouse clicking required but thank
God
> >the
> > > > > >buttons are labeled.
> > > > > >To select the high-quality voice once it's installed, I haven't
done
> > > >this,
> > > > > >but go into Modeltalker, hit Alt+O then Enter for the Options
dialog.
> > > >You
> > > > > >have to know what the voice database is called, maybe if there's
> > > > > >instructions for the voice it tells you.  Anyway, delete what's
in
> >the
> > > >box
> > > > > >and type in the name of the new voice database.  Then mouse click
on
> >the
> > > >Ok
> > > > > >button to put the setting into effect.
> > > > > >Hope this helps!
> > > > > >Jayson.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e at xtra.co.nz>
> > > > > >To: <dectalk at bluegrasspals.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:17 AM
> > > > > >Subject: [DECtalk] mod talker
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi I have a few questions.
> > > > > > > I just downloaded and installed all componants.
> > > > > > > I use jaws and hal.
> > > > > > > I have a few questions.
> > > > > > > How do you record your own voice in the inv tool?
> > > > > > > How do you get the good quality voice to select in mod talker?
> > > > > > > How do you get mod talker  voice speaking for sapi?
> > > > > > > I tried with the control panel /speech/tts page and it said
the
> >voice
> > > > > > > can not play or something to that effect.
> > > > > > > I have the entire 162mb of files on the system as I write
this.
> > > > > > >
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