[DECtalk] Username and password for DECtalk archive

Shaun Everiss shaun.e at xtra.co.nz
Mon Apr 4 22:42:55 EDT 2005


well I don't know.
I havn't seen the latest red dwarf release.
Saying that, the dwarf stuff is the only reason I go to decarchive.
Everything else is basically static.
I hardly see a file up now.
At 11:57 p.m. 4/04/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I did look at Planetmirror and they have a request form to start a new
>mirror.  However, not being the owner of the Dectalk archive I don't feel
>right about asking them without Andre's permission.  Should someone Email
>Andre about it or do you think he's had it up to here with DECtalk Archive
>stuff?
>One thing I'm surprised hasn't been done is a dynamic mirroring type of
>thing.  E.G. files are mirrored at more places depending on how popular they
>are.  This would take a server/client relationship, but if done right,
>several people could host the archive on their own personal broadband
>servers.  Then, when a file is requested, several low-bandwidth servers are
>combined and send different parts of the file, such that one virtual
>high-bandwidth connection is made so the file is downloaded quickly but no
>one server gets left with the entire bandwidth bill for that request.
>Also, one problem with somebody hosting the archive but making everybody use
>the mirror is that disk space is still wasted on the part of the person
>hosting the archive.  This is especially so when you consider that that
>space is taken up by stuff that nobody except a mirroring server can access,
>and that server's purpose is just to keep its own copy of the content up to
>date.
>Jayson.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
>To: "DECtalk Discussions" <dectalk at jaybird.no-ip.info>
>Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [DECtalk] Username and password for DECtalk archive
>
>
>> Hi.  OK, I have also heard things about Andre which are not best discussed
>> here, besides I was asked to keep them confidential.  This is not the
>first
>> time that the archive issue has come up.  I really do understand where he
>> is coming from about donations.  I run two servers, so I do know how hard
>> it is to set up.  One of them is having serious bandwidth issues because I
>> did someone a favor.  It isn't that person's fault, but his files are too
>> popular and people download them like mad.  I am lucky that I haven't got
>> complaints from the particular provider.  My point is that whoever manages
>> the archive needs lots and lots of bandwidth.  I'm sorry to say this, but
>I
>> really don't think Jayson qualifies.  For one thing, as he said, bandwidth
>> is an issue for him right now.  For another, he is in the US so we will
>> have copyright problems.  Again, I'm sorry, but we need to deal with
>facts.
>>
>> So what do I suggest?  I do not suggest donating to Andre.  Why?  Because
>I
>> don't think he will ever be happy with the archive.  This is based on
>> information that I have about him generally, and my own experiences with
>> running servers.  I think the best thing to do is find a site in Europe
>who
>> has the bandwidth and is willing to host the archive.  My preference would
>> be a UK site because of the Red Dwarf, but any European site would be
>> fine.  I would stay away from Australia because they have just passed
>> stricter copyright laws.  Canada would be fine also.  Asia would be OK but
>> in general is very, very slow.  I just thought of something.  Someone,
>> please visit these two sites and ask them to mirror the archive.  I think
>> they would and our bandwidth issues would be over.  We would still need a
>> main archive to mirror from, but that could still be handled by Andre
>since
>> everyone could be diverted to the mirrors.  In fact, just put on the index
>> page that this archive is no longer accessible except through
>> mirrors.  Look at these:
>>
>> http://www.mirror.ac.uk/
>> http://www.planetmirror.com/
>>
>> I am sure one or the other would mirror the archive.  I think planetmirror
>> is mirroring the asimov Apple II archive which is marginal in terms of
>> copyright.  Any thoughts?  Either way, I think we should really move the
>> main archive off Andre's site.  If someone could set up a server in
>Canada,
>> that might be best, or the UK.  Only let the mirror service access the
>main
>> site and make everyone use that mirror.  As I said, this would eliminate
>> both Andre and the bandwidth issue.  Another reason to eliminate Andre's
>> archive is because he doesn't care about it and would probably be happy to
>> be done with it anyway.
>>
>> At 11:39 AM 4/2/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Hello folks.  Several changes have been made to the dectalk
>> >archive.  First, the archive is now protected by a username and
>> >password.  the username is dectalk, the password is donations.  IWhich
>> >leads to the fact taht I've had to put a brand new Index page up there,
>> >with the paypal button right at the top.  As Andre says "If ten people
>> >donate one dollor, that 's ten dollors.  If two bucks, that twenty."
>Make
>> >a dude happy.  If we don't get donations, there will
>> >Be!  No!  DECtalk!  Archive!  Search google for Andre Louis, and the
>first
>> >thing that comes up is the DECtalk archive.  Andre does not want to be
>> >asociated with something he doesn't care about.
>>
>>
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