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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t have a modern mac, but, does it also look for roms in a roms folder under your home folder?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> BlindApple <blindapple-bounces@bluegrasspals.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Isige via BlindApple<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 15, 2024 4:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Blind Apple Discussions <blindapple@bluegrasspals.com><br><b>Cc:</b> John Isige <gwynn@tds.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Blindapple] Running on Apple silicon?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>OK, I’m on the Mac<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>. But I thought I could use the ROMs at least. I put the ROMs in the roms directory, and copied all of the ini files and folders over to the Mac version of Mame I unzipped. If I type:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>./mame apple2ee -flop1 ../ae/dos33/eamontlk.dsk<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I get:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'>_Modern<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'>2024-11-15 15:06:33.205 mame[2177:156959] +[IMKInputSession subclass]: chose IMKInputSession_Modern<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'>sc01a.bin NOT FOUND (tried in votrsc01a apple2ee apple2e)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'>Fatal error: Required files are missing, the machine cannot be run.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'>If anybody has any ideas, I’ll happily try them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'>Thanks for the help so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;font-variant-caps: normal;font-stretch: normal;font-size-adjust: none;font-kerning: auto;font-variant-alternates: normal;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-numeric: normal;font-variant-east-asian: normal;font-variant-position: normal;font-variant-emoji: normal;font-feature-settings: normal;font-optical-sizing: auto;font-variation-settings: normal'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Menlo",serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 15, 2024, at 11:35<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb via BlindApple <<a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>A few more thoughts. To put nvda into sleep mode which will wake up when you launch another program, use nvda key plus shift plus s</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Also to exit the mame program, scrole lock then hit escape should take you back to the folder. Most of my batch files load 2 disks, so there will be a disk in drive 2. You can do catalog,s6,d2 to see what is there. Also in prodos, if you don't know the prefix of drive two, you can do cat,s6,d2</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I think you an also do prefix,s6,d2</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Have fun. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Tiny Puppy-butchb via BlindApple</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Blind Apple Discussions</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:wa0vjr@gmail.com" title="wa0vjr@gmail.com">Tiny Puppy-butchb</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Friday, November 15, 2024 9:52 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Re: [Blindapple] Running on Apple silicon?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>O.k., a large file, but here it is. I still have more disk images to do, but the ones I'm doing from my apple 2 e are in a folder called tcp. Have fun. Under butchs batch files are some batch files you can just hit enter on. It is loads of fun. Url is </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/41dckwcxt9sgbym0ji1ch/MAME-Apple.zip?rlkey=tnho815qfjezmry4zbovab75d&dl=1">https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/41dckwcxt9sgbym0ji1ch/MAME-Apple.zip?rlkey=tnho815qfjezmry4zbovab75d&dl=1</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Buddy Brannan via BlindApple</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Blind Apple Discussions</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:buddy@brannan.name" title="buddy@brannan.name">Buddy Brannan</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Friday, November 15, 2024 9:23 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Re: [Blindapple] Running on Apple silicon?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Ooh! Yes please? <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>--<br>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV, WRVB670 - Erie, PA<br>Email: <a href="mailto:buddy@brannan.name">buddy@brannan.name</a><br>Mobile: (814) 431-0962<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 15, 2024, at 11:19<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM, Tiny Puppy-butchb via BlindApple <<a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Can't help with a mac, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I have mame on my windows seven with lots of disk images I'm <br>making from my 2 e as well as others I've gathered. Sounds and <br>runs just like a 2 e. Kind of fun.<br>I can put my whole folder on drop box if you want. Just unzip it <br>and open the folder and there is the program plus a couple <br>folders of disks and One I'm making called butch batch files so I <br>can just run the batch file instead of going to the command line <br>every time and typing all the stuff needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Buddy Brannan via BlindApple</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com" title="blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">Blind Apple Discussions</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:buddy@brannan.name" title="buddy@brannan.name">Buddy Brannan</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Friday, November 15, 2024 9:12 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Re: [Blindapple] Running on Apple silicon?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Cool...so...if we get Mame, can we make the IIe emulator to run? <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>--<br>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV, WRVB670 - Erie, PA<br>Email: <a href="mailto:buddy@brannan.name">buddy@brannan.name</a><br>Mobile: (814) 431-0962<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 15, 2024, at 9:28<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM, Darcy Burnard via BlindApple <<a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi. If you’re going to use Mame on the Mac, your best bet is to probably get it through Homebrew. That it will automatically install all the various required libraries and what not.<br>You can find home-brew at <a href="http://brew.sh">http://brew.sh</a> <<a href="http://brew.sh/">http://brew.sh/</a>>.<br>Darcy<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 14, 2024, at 9:26<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM, Jayson Smith via BlindApple <<a href="mailto:blindapple@bluegrasspals.com">blindapple@bluegrasspals.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>Hi,<br><br>I have no idea if MESS will even run on Apple Silicon, since the MESS project hasn't been a going concern for years. MESS merged into the MAME project at <a href="http://www.mamedev.org">www.mamedev.org</a> where you can probably find an appropriate download. I've created a MameApple package a few years ago, but only have one for Windows. It does things a bit differently, in particular I think the ROM files are different.<br><br>Jayson<br><br>On 11/14/2024 8:03 PM, John Isige via BlindApple wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi all.<br><br>So I grabbed the Mac version of the emulator, unzipped it, put the SDL library in /library/frameworks, allowed mess64, allowed the SDL framework, and allowed terminal to monitor keystrokes, it complained about something but I couldn’t catch the message because it just opened system settings. That was the only app in the table and I didn’t see mess64 in applications to add it.<br><br>If I run it like so:<br><br><br>./mess64 apple2ee -flop1 ./ae/dos33/eamontlk.dsk<br><br>It says it’s not responding a lot, says something about sdnsync window is sleeping, (again can’t quite tell what this is), and either ends on its own or interprets cmd-opt-esc to enter forced quit as a signal to kill it.<br><br>Anybody know the right incantation to get this working? Alternatively, if it doesn’t work on M-seires processors, is there an emulator that does? With Echo naturally.<br><br>TIA for any help. I hope it works, I was looking forward to playing some Eamon, and engaging in the Inception of nostalgia, emulating my first Apple computer, the first computer I ever used, on a modern Apple computer. “The circle is now complete”! 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