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Tom Brennan g_brennantg at TITAN.SFASU.EDU
Wed Jul 5 21:20:07 EDT 2017 

Think I probably have some Doubletalk stuff that you don't have and I think some
of what you have I may not have.  Will have to see about swapping some stuff.

Tom


Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017, Jayson Smith wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, my emulation works just like a real Apple in all respects except
> that it's not real, and has no physical disk drives, etc. It emulates
> the Echo synthesizer, and Textalker loads and runs just like it does on
> a real Apple. I can enter any Applesoft, Integer, Monitor commands just
> as on a real Apple.
>
> I do have a Doubletalk board, got it for Christmas in 2004 when RC
> Systems was selling them for $30 or so. The Doubletalk Utilities disk
> that came with my board was actually defective, so someone else on this
> list imaged theirs and sent it to me. It's a 5.25 disk with a few
> programs, some LPC files for the TMS chip, and some music files for the
> tone generators. Do you have other stuff for the Doubletalk?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jayson
>
> On 7/5/2017 4:52 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> > Hi Jayson.
> >
> > I've got the cffa already set up.  In fact, I have the remote switch for
> > changing without rebooting.  Just need to start imaging some stuff.
> >
> > Things like the Franklin and Laser and some of the Beagle Brothers disks have
> > altered operating systems and write differently than the Apple on tracks 0 and 1
> > so I'm not sure if I could get you them any way but on a physical disk.
> > However, some of the utilities are quite useful.
> >
> > Can you run exec files?  Have lots of handy exec utilities but the memory will
> > need to be mapped the same way it is on a physical Apple so peeks and pokes work
> > normally with normal addresses .  You'll probably also need to do direct calls
> > and have 'mon c i o' functional in your emulation.  Also, need to know if you
> > can directly write hex or other machine code directly in emulation.  I've not
> > used the emulation programs as I have physical machines available to me.  Think
> > I even still have a working //+ back there somewhere.  Had a //c but its board
> > has gone south.  Still have a Cricket and its software and that will run on my
> > Laser.
> >
> > Actually, also have lots of old apple books from manuals to assembly stuff to
> > cracking texts and even some old books listing pd software.
> >
> > I also have a Doubletalk and all its software if you have access.  Some
> > interesting stuff in there but you have to have a Doubletalk to use it.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> > web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017, Jayson Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Okay, here's info about how to image disks with a CFFA3000. First, if
> >> you haven't already, install the card into a slot. Personally I use slot
> >> 1, because that won't mess up the GS startup scan behavior. 5.25 and 3.5
> >> disks will boot, and the CFFA will only boot if nothing is in any other
> >> bootable drive. That said, wherever you install the card, that slot
> >> needs to be set to "Your Card" in the Control Panel.
> >>
> >> Next you may need to adjust a dip switch. I'm not sure if this is
> >> necessary, but if the card doesn't think it's running on an IIgs, it
> >> probably won't show the desk accessory we're about to use.
> >>
> >> With the card installed, and looking at the opposite edge of the card
> >> than where it connects to the GS slot, around midway from front to back,
> >> near the very top of the card, there's a block of eight dip switches.
> >> They are numbered from back to front, 1 through 8. If a switch faces the
> >> left, it's on, if it faces the right, it's off. You need to turn switch
> >> 7 on. This tells the card to use code intended for an IIgs.
> >>
> >> Next, plug a USB thumb drive into the USB port on the front of the card.
> >> Feel free to use a USB extension and run it out the back of the GS if
> >> you want, that's what I do so I can easily remove it without having to
> >> open the GS. Note that the CFFA3000 does support Compact Flash cards,
> >> but I've only ever used that function to migrate from an old MicroDrive
> >> CF card to a USB thumb drive. Now close the computer, and boot a
> >> Textalker-GS disk!
> >>
> >> Whenever the disk comes to a stopping point, hit Ctrl+Apple+Escape to
> >> open the desk accessory menu, hit Down arrow until you hear CFFA3000,
> >> then hit Return. Now hit 5 to select the Import from Disk option, then
> >> hit Return. Textalker-GS will say a number. At this point, it wants the
> >> slot from which you're imaging, so enter that number and press Return.
> >> Now it wants the drive number, 1 or 2, so enter that and press Return.
> >> If you're trying to image from a smartport device and there's no disk in
> >> that drive, it'll beep at this point and return you to the main menu,
> >> with the correct option still selected so just hit Return to try again
> >> with entering the slot and drive.
> >>
> >> If it finds a disk or you're imaging a 5.25 disk where it can't tell if
> >> there's a disk in the drive, it'll ask for a filename. It will offer a
> >> mostly useless suggestion of DISKNNNN where NNNN is a sequence number.
> >> Hit Delete until it beeps, then type in a new name, maximum of eight
> >> characters. It will fill in the extension for you, .DSK for 5.25 disks,
> >> .PO for 3.5 disks.
> >>
> >> Now make sure the disk you want to image is in the correct drive and hit
> >> Return. It should now go about its business imaging the disk. The
> >> imaging of 5.25 disks is very fast, when it starts it sounds like the
> >> 5.25 drive is booting. 3.5 disks will take longer, but this can be
> >> decreased somewhat if you have DiversiCache installed.
> >>
> >> When it's done, use your Textalker-GS review to look at the screen. Hold
> >> down Ctrl and hit 7 on the num pad a few times. It should say it
> >> finished. Keep holding down Ctrl and hit 7 a few more times, if there
> >> were any bad blocks, it'll tell you.
> >>
> >> Now hit Return to return to the main menu. If you want to image another
> >> disk, you can just hit Return again, since that option is still
> >> selected. If the new disk is from the same slot and drive, you can hit
> >> Return twice more, since it remembers the last slot and drive you used.
> >> Then you'll need to delete the suggested name and enter one of your own,
> >> insert the disk, hit Return, and away you go again.
> >>
> >> When you're done imaging disks, from the main CFFA3000 menu, hit Escape,
> >> Return, to go back to the desk accessory menu, then Escape, Return again
> >> to return to whatever program was running.
> >>
> >> If you are able to download files from the Internet and get them to a
> >> Windows machine, a program you will definitely want is CiderPress. It is
> >> an indispensable tool for managing disk images and files, copying,
> >> deleting, creating new images, extracting text or Applesoft/Integer
> >> Basic listings, etc.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Jayson
> >>
> >> On 7/5/2017 2:38 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >>> Now that I think of it, I have a master disk for the old Franklin 1000 series
> >>> which has some slightly different stuff from Apple's stuff that they did so they
> >>> didn't have as many copyright problems.  Its copy.obj loads differently and its
> >>> intbasic also loads differently.  Also havesome of the old Beagle Brothers stuff
> >>> which was some really nice tools for manipulating things.
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> >>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> nFor simple stuff like workstation I could tell you the crack and just send that
> >>>> on a plain disk and let you modify your init command by changing, for example,
> >>>> a47505 and a48302 r4om 222 to 223 or could send you exec files to make the
> >>>> patches for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> >>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017, Jayson Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Okay, a few more questions. Do you have a USB thumb drive you could fill
> >>>>> with disk images, then mail to me? Do you have a copy of Textalker-GS?
> >>>>> If so, I can definitely show you how to use your CFFA3000 to image
> >>>>> standard format 5.25 and 3.5 disks. By standard format, for 3.5 disks, I
> >>>>> mean 80 tracks, 1600 blocks. For 5.25 disks, I mean 35 tracks, 16
> >>>>> sectors/8 ProDOS blocks per track, no funny business like copy
> >>>>> protection, etc. Like I said, I don't know of a way to read 13-sector
> >>>>> disks, but if you have some stuff on them, there's probably a way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let me know if this would work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jayson
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/4/2017 9:31 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >>>>>> I am using da shell through a university but they've blocked zmodem, xmodem,
> >>>>>> ymodem, kermit, and ftp so I really can't upload anything into it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a //gs but somewhere I do have a super serial.  Also have a Laser 128ex.
> >>>>>> Have an old win98 machine and an xp machine but no internet for them.  Have a
> >>>>>> running dos machine but no internet for it.  I'm typing on a Mac right now.  I
> >>>>>> do have a cfa3000 but have never messed with it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> kTom
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> >>>>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2017, Jayson Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I noticed through the message ID of your message that you're using Pine.
> >>>>>>> Are you using a dial-up shell account? If so, I could probably find a
> >>>>>>> modem somewhere (believe it or not, there are USB modems now) and you
> >>>>>>> could send disk images, archives, etc. directly to me, just as in the
> >>>>>>> olden days, lol!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Before I continue, I want to say, please don't be offended by any of the
> >>>>>>> following questions, I truly don't know what type of equipment you have.
> >>>>>>> Do you have a Windows PC or just DOS? Do you have a CFFA3000 on any of
> >>>>>>> your Apples? If not, do any of your Apples have a Super Serial card or a
> >>>>>>> hardware compatible? As I said earlier, the IIc serial ports are
> >>>>>>> compatible, the IIgs ports are not.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would be glad to image disks you send me, but I really don't want to
> >>>>>>> have you send me your only copies of stuff through the mail, just in
> >>>>>>> case something happened to them. You might literally have the only
> >>>>>>> remaining copies of some of this stuff. Do you have enough blank/spare
> >>>>>>> floppy disks that you could make copies of stuff to send to me?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out a way to get this stuff archived and
> >>>>>>> preserved. The standard Apple 5.25 .dsk image is 140K, 35 tracks, 16
> >>>>>>> sectors. I don't know of a disk image format specific to DOS 3.2
> >>>>>>> 13-sector disks, or any other oddball disk format.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jayson
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 7/4/2017 12:07 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Jason, I have an odd situation.  I can't upload any stuff with the isp I'm
> >>>>>>>> using.  If you can read them we can talk about my directly sending you either
> >>>>>>>> 3.5 or 5.25 disks of programs themselves.  Have v3.0 and 3.1 of DOS as well as
> >>>>>>>> several versions of prodos and the gsos Davex version of DOS that APH did.  Also
> >>>>>>>> have pascal, graforth, pilot, cp/m, and several other operating systems for the
> >>>>>>>> Apple.  Even have a version of logo I modified to sort of talk although that's
> >>>>>>>> obviously kind of silly.  Got a lot of that stuff boxed up but can probably dig
> >>>>>>>> it out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If anyone's got it, I'm looking for the version of wlrd.talk that was written
> >>>>>>>> for the pc.  Have I think v3.1 for the Apple but would really like to have the
> >>>>>>>> pc version.  Used to have it but it seems to have gotten lost.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tom
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> >>>>>>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017, Jayson Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would love, love, love to get my hands on images of software you have,
> >>>>>>>>> as you probably have some treasures. I hope this can happen somehow,
> >>>>>>>>> sometime.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jayson
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/3/2017 4:02 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the list, Jeff.  I fondly remember the magazine and still have
> >>>>>>>>>> several of its disks along with lots of programs that came from it.  Still run
> >>>>>>>>>> that stuff on my Apple and Laser computers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Tom
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Tom Brennan  KD5VIJ, CCC-A/SLP
> >>>>>>>>>> web page http://titan.sfasu.edu/~g_brennantg/sonicpage.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017, Jeff Weiss wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>> My name is Jeff Weiss and I just joined the blind apple list.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I used to publish a disk magazine for blind Apple users originally called
> >>>>>>>>>>> Apple Talk.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Due to a problem with licensing Dos for the magazine, I later changed the name to
> >>>>>>>>>>> A-Talk.
> >>>>>>>>>>> First, how do I read the archives?  I downloaded some files that end with .gz.  I guess this is some type of zip file, but where can I get the program to unzip the files?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My next question is how do most of you boot your apple disks on the pc?  I have started launching mine with batch files, which makes the process much easier than typing out the entire launch commands.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, I think Jason said that there are additional disk images available.  Are they available for download, or directly from Jason?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That's enough for now, and I look forward to comments from other list members.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeff Weiss
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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