[Blindapple] female voice

Tue Nov 5 09:07:39 EST 2013

Hi,

I'm not actually familiar with any disks that use the female voice, and 
in fact, unless it used the EchoWords program, it wouldn't have to be 
female. What basically happens when you hear a more natural sounding 
Echo speech is that a human recorded the words that are spoken, and then 
those recordings were converted to a highly compressed format. I 
actually like the sort of robotic quality this format produces. It's 
much the same as happens today with wav and MP3 files, except that back 
then, what with a standard 5.25 disk being able to hold an absolute 
maximum of 140K and the Enhanced IIe with extended 80-column card having 
only 128K of RAM, and some of that needing to be used for DOS and other 
programs, there's not much disk space or room in memory to work with, so 
they did the best they could.
Jayson

On 11/5/2013 8:14 AM, Blake Roberts wrote:
> This is an addendum to my post below. I was finally able to successfully
> load
> sec demo
> today. I understand now that this was the program that the mp3 called echo
> words demo came from. The female voice from my childhood, as I remember,
> sounded different. It was on a disk with a program called As the Disk Turns,
> where the echo synthesizer and the female voice had a telephone
> conversation. The disk also had a program similar to Eliza. The female would
> answer yes, no or one other response. Does anyone remember this disk? I
> don't remember what the title was and have been unable to find it in
> archives I have looked at.
> Blake
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blake Roberts [mailto:beroberts at hughes.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 10:20 AM
> To: 'Blind Apple Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [Blindapple] female voice
>
> SEC DEMO
> is what I thought the Echo is saying. However, as I said, I receive a "file
> not found" error.
> Blake
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindapple-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
> [mailto:blindapple-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 9:26 AM
> To: Blind Apple Discussions
> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Using save the states, and knowing when you have
> to
>
> I think it's SEC DEMO
> Jayson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blake Roberts" <beroberts at hughes.net>
> To: "'Blind Apple Discussions'" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 08:25:27 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Using save the states, and knowing when you have
> to
>
>> What is the name of the demo on tt13.dsk, the one with the female voice? I
>> was able to successfully do
>> catalog d2
>> after saving state and loading two disks as Tony described.  When I try to
>> run what I think the Echo said, I receive the error "File not found."
> Trying
>> to review and read letter by letter has same result. I also remember an
> Echo
>> female voice from grade school and want to run the demo to hear if it is
>> what I remember.
>> Blake
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindapple-bounces at bluegrasspals.com
>> [mailto:blindapple-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Tony Baechler
>> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 3:06 AM
>> To: Blind Apple Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Using save the states, and knowing when you have
>> to
>>
>> To add to what Kyle says, you can determine how many saved states you have
>> by looking in the sta/ folder.  You should have sta/apple2ee/1.sta after
> the
>> state is saved.  Also, if you do what I do, you can have multiple saved
>> states.  I have state 1 for DOS 3.3 and 2 for ProDOS.  When I insert a new
>> disk which I haven't looked at before, I start with state 1 and do a
>> catalog.  That avoids having to boot the emulated machine every time with
> a
>> talking boot disk, save the state, switch disks, etc.  If I get an I/O
>> error, I exit the emulator and repeat the command but with "2 " instead of
>> "1", assuming it's a ProDOS disk.  If that still doesn't work, I give up
> and
>> go onto the next disk.  Here is a sample command line:
>>
>> mess apple2ee -flop1 disks\new.dsk -flop2 disks\egames.dsk -state 1
>>
>> I keep egames.dsk in drive two in case I need Integer.  It's easier to
> brun
>> it from the second disk rather than exiting the emulator and having to
>> repeat the command line with a disk that has Integer on it.  In other
> words,
>> I have Integer already available in case I need it.  Obviously, if it's a
>> ProDOS disk, egames.dsk won't help, but I don't have to access the second
>> drive at all.  Now that I've found a decent menu program, I usually insert
>> that disk in the second drive.  I eventually plan to copy Integer and the
>> menu to a separate boot disk, but I haven't yet.  For some strange reason,
>> saving the state within fid crashes the Echo and/or the machine itself.
>>
>> To answer the question about the female voice, yes, your memory is
> correct.
>>   You'll need a standard boot disk or you'll have to make sure the machine
> is
>> already booted as described above.  Take a look at tt13.dsk.  Ignore the
>> robot demo as that's useless.  Run the other demo instead and tell me if
>> that's what you remember.  I've never seen a game that uses the voice, but
>> it would be cool to find one.
>>
>> On 11/2/2013 9:24 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>> How do you know when you have to choose "save states, "and how do you
>>> choose them on the Mac? And also, how did people get all these disk
>>> images of old Apple to eat things? This brings me back to grade
>>> school. I distinctly Remember there was an echo synthesizer with a
>>> woman voice on it. I just can't remember the game. I think it was a
>>> math one, and  too flipped the disk to get the woman voice and
>>> additional games? I used to be afraid of this voice
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> -- 
>> Have a good day,
>> Tony Baechler
>> tony at baechler.net
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