[Blindapple] About the keyboard.

Sat Aug 28 21:33:08 EDT 2010

Hi again,

I didn't receive any disks with the computer. You're saying though, that say I put a game in, if it has textalker on it, it'll make the computer talk automatically?
As for the keyboard, there's no reset button on it. I did press control, and a button with an arrow on it, and I got another beep.  The keyboard must be working.
Thanks for all your help.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindapple] About the keyboard.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:17:05 -0400

Hello again,

I need to clarify something. If you received disks with the computer, some 
of them probably contain Textalker. Any disk which is supposed to come up 
talking has a copy of Textalker on it. So you do not boot from a Textalker 
disk, then run another program, in most cases. Programs designed to be 
bootable, and to be used with the Echo speech, will have Textalker included, 
and Textalker will load at boot time.

As for the keyboard, there's a simple way to test if it's working. I'm 
assuming here that the keyboard has dots on the d and k keys, so you can 
easily find home row. On the standard GS keyboard, the Reset key is above 
the top row of keys, sort of in the center. It's longer, and feels 
different, than the other keys. Turn on the computer, it should bing. Find 
the Control key, to the left of the a key. Hold it down, press Reset, then 
release both keys. If the keyboard is working, you should hear another bing. 
At this point, you are in Applesoft Basic. Typing almost anything then 
pressing the Return key will result in a syntax error on the screen, and 
another bing.
Jayson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Conroy" <staindaddict at juno.com>
To: <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindapple] About the keyboard.

> OK, so I need Textalker to make the computer talk? Do I put textalker in, 
> and take it out to put my game in, or how does that work? I can't 
> remember. I'm assuming I just put the textalker disk in, and then take it 
> out to put my next disk in?
> As for the keyboard. It's not a USB, I made a mistake. It only has one 
> cable hanging off of it though, and it looks like a normal keyboard does 
> for a regular computer. It's kind of round; it does fit into  a spot on 
> the Apple though. I just have nowhere to put the mouse. I can't tell if 
> the keyboard is working or not because I don't have Textalker. I guess the 
> person that sole me the computer forgot it, or maybe he didn't have it.
> Is there anyone on this list who has an extra copy of Textalker laying 
> around?
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] About the keyboard.
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:57:59 -0400
>
> Hi,
>
> As for your Echo question, yes, there does need to be a disk with the
> Textalker software in the drive before anything will talk. Textalker is 
> the
> software which drives the Echo card. Without it, the Echo would just sit
> there, not doing anything.
>
> As for your keyboard, if it truly has a USB plug, it is almost certainly 
> the
> wrong keyboard. As far as I know, the Apple IIgs was discontinued before 
> USB
> was invented. Therefore, Apple never made a USB keyboard for the GS, since
> the GS never had any USB ports. If you can plug your keyboard into the USB
> port on your main computer, you definitely have the wrong keyboard, and as
> far as I know, there is no way this keyboard can be made to work on the 
> GS.
> If you got something calling itself an Apple keyboard, that was probably a
> mistake. Since Apple also makes the Macintosh line of computers, an Apple
> keyboard, in modern terminology, would be a keyboard to use with a Mac.
> Hope that helps.
> Jayson
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ryan Conroy" <staindaddict at juno.com>
> To: <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:42 PM
> Subject: [Blindapple] About the keyboard.
>
>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> I looked all over for a keyboard, and I think I finally found one. The
>> only problem is, it's not what you said it should be. There's a wire
>> hanging off the keyboard, that plugs into a plug on the apple. Like a
>> regular keyboard on a normal computer.
>> Does this mean that the keyboard I got won't work with the Apple IIGS, or
>> are there models that are like that with just the USB hanging off of the
>> keyboard? Come to think of it, with the way the keyboard is set up, I do
>> not have a slot for the mouse. I guess I got the wrong keyboard then?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Echo for Apple II GS?
>> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:47:40 -0400
>>
>> I just thought of something. Do you also need a keyboard cable? Unlike PC
>> keyboards, the cable plugs into both the computer and the keyboard. If 
>> you
>> don't have a cable, you'll also need to get that, since a keyboard won't
>> do
>> you much good without a way to connect it. BTW, on the GS, there is one
>> port
>> which doubles as both the keyboard and mouse port. You plug the keyboard
>> cable into this port, and plug the other end of the cable into one of the
>> ports on the keyboard, it doesn't matter which one, although the left one
>> is
>> probably better. The port on the other end of the keyboard is where you
>> would plug in a mouse if you use it.
>> Jayson
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ryan Conroy" <staindaddict at juno.com>
>> To: <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Echo for Apple II GS?
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion. I just posted to the group.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Echo for Apple II GS?
>>> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:22:55 -0400
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Do you have access to Usenet newsgroups? If so, you might ask if anyone
>>> has
>>> a keyboard on comp.sys.apple2.marketplace. Other than that, I really
>>> don't
>>> know.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Ryan Conroy" <staindaddict at juno.com>
>>> To: <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Echo for Apple II GS?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the computer with the echo card in it. From what I was told, the
>>>>echo will come out of the speakers as long as it has the card in the
>>>>computer.
>>>> Now, I'm looking for a keyboard for the Apple IIGS. I can't find one
>>>> anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>> From: "Louis Bryant" <louis at braillesoft.net>
>>>> To: "Blind Apple Discussions" <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindapple] Echo for Apple II GS?
>>>> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:58:54 -0700
>>>>
>>>> Hi, I have one but it doesn't have the card. Would you be able to find
>>>> such
>>>> a card? You need it so the Apple IIGS can drive the synthesizer. 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Ryan Conroy" <staindaddict at juno.com>
>>>> To: <blindapple at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:15 PM
>>>> Subject: [Blindapple] Echo for Apple II GS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently bought an Apple II GS, and I have everything but the echo
>>>>> box
>>>>> to make it talk. Is there anyone on here who has an echo for the Apple
>>>>> II
>>>>> GS that they're willing to get rid of for a reasonable price?
>>>>> Please let me know. I have PayPal, so I can pay instantly.
>>>>> I'm not sure if the Apple IIGS has its own Echo Box, or if any echo
>>>>> from
>>>>> any Apple would work. Hopefully, someone knows the answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please get back to me when you can.
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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