<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">unless you got the screen reader to read the tracks out of order, but the master is usually first in the list before track one.<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 28, 2015, at 11:18 PM, Derek Lane via RWP <<a href="mailto:rwp@bluegrasspals.com" class="">rwp@bluegrasspals.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class="">I think, especially with the access to the context menus which exist, navigating and selecting the master track should, at the very least, be an option. It would be a checkbox worded something like: "allow navigation to master track."</font></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class="">I think the track should be the last on the list, just as one would find the master section on most mixers on the right side, past all other controls.</font></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><blockquote style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class="" type="cite"><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class="">----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:rwp@bluegrasspals.com" class="">James Teh via RWP</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@bluegrasspals.com" href="mailto:rwp@bluegrasspals.com" class="">Reapers Without Peepers</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="jamie@nvaccess.org" href="mailto:jamie@nvaccess.org" class="">James Teh</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:51 PM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Rwp] Especially to Jamie: Selecting the Master Track</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>On 28/10/2015 6:09 PM, Matej Golian via RWP wrote:<br class=""><blockquote cite="mid:CACnCQYaV2CJx13x0Fo02EH01=wPV5Bh1=kigvJgwoy2Dvo85_A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class=""><pre wrap="" class="">Specifically, do you still want to make the master track focusable
with Osara?</pre></blockquote>I'd like to, yes.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote cite="mid:CACnCQYaV2CJx13x0Fo02EH01=wPV5Bh1=kigvJgwoy2Dvo85_A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class=""><pre wrap="" class="">I ask because now we have an SWS action for it.</pre></blockquote>Yes; I didn't know about this action. It works quite nicely, but it selects the master track without unselecting other tracks, which might not be what the user wants in some cases. The code is also ridiculously simple, which is nice. :)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote cite="mid:CACnCQYaV2CJx13x0Fo02EH01=wPV5Bh1=kigvJgwoy2Dvo85_A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class=""><pre wrap="" class="">If you
don't, I think that it would be useful if osara provided feedback when
selecting the master track with that SWS action.</pre></blockquote>I could probably get that to speak as well, but because of the reason above, I'd prefer to have another way to move to the master track which acts more like moving between other tracks first.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Can you some how make actions accept arguments?</blockquote>Not possible I'm afraid.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="" type="cite">If so, what if there was some kind of action in Osara that would speak a custom text string? If it is possible, one could make custom action chains and put this action at the end of the chain and enter the string one would like to get spoken. This way any action could provide spoken feedback.<br class=""></blockquote>I don't think that's overly useful because you don't know whether the action succeeded. If it's just always going to speak the message regardless of whether the action succeeded, there's not much point in having the message, since it's always going to say the same thing when you press the action, and since you made the action, you know exactly what you're doing when you activate that action.<br class=""><br class="">I can probably an add option to always speak the action name at the end of any unknown action, but I personally think this is pointless and I think it should be disabled by default to prevent false confidence in success.<br class=""><br class="">Jamie<br class=""><br class=""><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
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