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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Yep, he didn’t mean to cause a firestorm of controversy over key assignments. But, oh, what he did.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><grin><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don’t think I have ever defined a key map in my life that somebody didn’t like. Often, it is lots of somebodies. You really can’t win.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>But, while custimizeability can lead to improvement for the individual, it does cause problems when a group like this is trying to help somebody.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>What key map are, you. using today?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>But, I suspect our friendly developer has his hands full, just trying to get OSARA to work correctly, as it struggles to deal with the quirks of Reaper, and key maps are probably pretty far from his mind just now. That is as it should be.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>While he is focusing on the underlying mechanisms, maybe we can help with the human factors part.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We could probably actually be helpful if we would find a way for this group to collaborate, and create a map for him.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I’m scratching my head, trying to figure out a means of doing that effectively.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>My initial thought would be for one of our experts to lay out a straw man for consideration. Then, once we have all reviewed that map, people could startwriting in about entries they didn’t like, and suggesting alternatives for that entry. We would deal with it one contravercial entry at a time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The final decision should come from a power user, one who is grounded inpractical experience, with a need to be productive and efficient, , and knows what it is actually like to use this tool with such a map.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Once he has heard all our complaints and suggestions, he decides, and that becomes the official setting for that entry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Once we’re done arguing about the nuances, that would become the official Peepers key map for Osara. And, we need a convenient way for the novice to direct Osara to use the official map, so we can talk apples to apples when trying to help them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Does anybody volunteer to start the process? I am definitely not a power user, and so declare myself to lack the necessary experience<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces@bluegrasspals.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jayson Smith via RWP<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 04, 2015 6:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Reapers Without Peepers<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rwp] [RWP] OSARA, an open-source ReaAccess replacement in development<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br><br>I, too, would be in favor of single-key commands for the most common actions. Cake Talking for Sonar, which is for me the gold standard of DAW accessibility, uses single-key commands for the most common actions. Mute, solo, arm, etc. And it has a standard view where you use up/down to move between tracks, and left/right to move between parameters on a track such as name, mute, solo, arm, volume, pan, etc.<br><br>Jayson<br><br>On 2/4/2015 3:37 AM, Hrvoje Katić via RWP wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Well, personally I don't like default Reaper keymap. Some important actions are not assigned to any keystroke by default (move by beats and bars is a good example), and you have to hold control and alt while navigating tracks with up and down arrow, and also control+alt+arrow keys have a conflict with some graphics drivers where these keystrokes are assigned to rotate screen.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>LP, <br>Hrvoje<o:p></o:p></p><p>Private email: <a href="mailto:hrvoje.katic@yandex.com">hrvoje.katic@yandex.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Web site: <a href="http://hrvix.wordpress.com/">Click here</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/hrvix">Click here</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/hrvix">Click here</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Skype Id: hrvojekatic<o:p></o:p></p><p>Mobile: 095/585-7034<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>4.2.2015. u 0:44, Zack Benton via RWP je napisao/la:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Agreed, I admit that the re access keymap is a bit harder to learn. <br>On 2/3/2015 18:16, James Teh via RWP wrote: <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Anyway, I didn't mean to start a debate on what is "best"; everyone has their preferences. My point is that if even I (as the primary author) am using something different to the ReaAccess key map, I'd be very reluctant to include a ReaAccess based key map as the default. At the very least, that key map is harder to learn initially. This is why I haven't included a key map at all at this point. Perhaps we could include a ReaAccess key map as an option, but I'm reluctant to make it a "default". <br><br>Jamie <br><br>On 4/02/2015 7:19 AM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote: <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have alien length fingers, so this might not work for everyone, but <br>I've found non-separated F keys a lot easier since I started treating <br>them as an extra row rather than counting along them. The experience <br>is a little different from laptop to laptop, but with a wee bit of <br>practice to get the muscle memory locked in I can comfortably hit <br>mute, solo, arm, phase etc without leaving the touch typing position <br>or counting. This is coming from someone who fought pretty hard <br>against those keys being used for those functions in the first place, <br>so I guess you could say I'm converted now. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________ <br>RWP mailing list <br><a href="mailto:RWP@bluegrasspals.com">RWP@bluegrasspals.com</a> <br><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp</a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>RWP mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:RWP@bluegrasspals.com">RWP@bluegrasspals.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp">http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>