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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hey Keith, you get a gold star and an at a boy from
me for remembering that, whatever that's worth ha ha.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This is a young fellow who's carefuly done his
research, and when he makes a buy, he'll not be disapointed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>And he's convinced me that probably in the near
future I will have a mac in my life, but only to run mac software, and to
experiment with the stuff on the mac end which is slowly becomming more
accessible.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We've had encouraging developments in the protools
arena according to our buddy Nate,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and though my clients don't give a rip, I would
like to have protools as an option around here just in case.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>One can never be too prepared as long as that
preparation doesn't stop you from actually getting work done.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=keithint1234@gmail.com href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">Keith
Hinton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Help with Sinth
VSTs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I forgot to mention DPC latency. One thing the Macs from I
believe<BR>2010 onwars are famous for is high over 1000 plus worth non
tweekable<BR>values out of control DPC latency. At least when running Windows.
You<BR>can't tweek it in software, and you can't bring it down in
hardware.<BR>So ultimately, it doesn't matter what hard-drive RPM you have at
all.<BR>You'll get dropouts, and other problems with any realtime
audio<BR>program like Sonar. Sorry for me just remembering to mention that.
But<BR>I figured to do that, before you got all excited. So really,
think<BR>twice. If you want a good machine manufacturer, look at
Jim<BR>Roseberry's machines over at <A
href="http://www.studiocat.com">http://www.studiocat.com</A><BR><BR><BR>On
12/31/13, Indigo <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>
I like synthetic synths myself, and aren't interested in synphonic<BR>>
instruments, but there's a big orchestra program that some blind users<BR>>
have accessed for years, something Pocket Orchestra.<BR>> It might come
with Sonar Producer version, or you may be able to buy it<BR>>
separately.<BR>> Someone here will know its name, and how to get
it.<BR>> Also, there are hardware modules by Roland and others with
very<BR>> realistic orchestra instruments.<BR>> The Yamaha Motif series
are famous for their emulated acoustic<BR>> instruments, and they have
great access, even a website devoted to blind<BR>> users of
Motifs.<BR>><BR>> If you read the posts on the most recent mac changes
that have destroyed<BR>> most of mac access, you may become wary of
struggling with running a mac.<BR>> I envied the beautiful clarity of music
made on Logic, until I played a<BR>> tutorial video done by TC Helicon on
how to edit a tiny little track<BR>> from 1 of their pedals in Logic on a
mac.<BR>> The guy was a expert mac user, and a factory tech, and it took
hours,<BR>> plus a dozen reboots to get a few little track edits done in
Logic.<BR>> Mac owners will never reveal those flaws to you, they have paid
so much<BR>> for their macs; and the snob appeal is so great; they
just keep quiet<BR>> and eat it.<BR>><BR>> Indi<BR>><BR>> On
12/30/2013 6:40 PM, Crystal Dennis wrote:<BR>>> Thanks for all the help
guys. I've been having issues with accessing<BR>>> the preference
windows even with the JAWS cursors and clicking star<BR>>> and
everything, and putting graphics on read all didn't do anything in<BR>>>
Eastwest. I wasn't aware that this would be an issue with sinths,
so<BR>>> I am a little sad because I wanted to really use some
orchestra<BR>>> sinths: The accessible ones I have right now are
more dance sinths (I<BR>>> have z3TA plus) I am currently on the hunt
for any accessible<BR>>> orchestra sinths, so any help with that would
be appreciated. I'm<BR>>> also debating having a sighted friend
just set it up for me, but it's<BR>>> ashame that that has to be the
solution to these sorts of problems<BR>>> other than just buying a mac
that has more on board accessibility lol.<BR>>><BR>>> I will
continue troubleshooting/testing sinths though, thanks
everyone!<BR>>><BR>>> On 12/29/13, Indigo <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>> Jackie, I once experimented with enabling audio devices
and midi devices<BR>>>> in Reaper with Wineyes 6.1, Jaws 10 and NVDA
2012.<BR>>>> The method was very similar in each for routing disabled
over to the<BR>>>> number pad, focusing on it there, then pressing
the star key for a right<BR>>>> click to bring up the configuration
dialog.<BR>>>> I don't think its either easier or more difficult with
any of those, and<BR>>>> I didn't find any impossible moves in Reaper
for those particular<BR>>>>
screenreaders.<BR>>>><BR>>>> For making VST synths play that
don't easily display their presets, I<BR>>>> found it was hit and
miss as to which screenreader displayed what<BR>>>> interface
parameters.<BR>>>> Wineyes previous and next clip is the most useful
screenreader move I<BR>>>> found for locating elusive interface
icons, but I'm not skilled enough<BR>>>> in Jaws to utilize all
its potential in its numPad cursors, nor did I<BR>>>> ever learn to
use its OCR function.<BR>>>> I don't know if anyone has yet found all
that NVDA's object navigation<BR>>>> can do, and I'm constantly
surprised at what I can read with NVDA.<BR>>>> On this online surfing
computer I now have only NVDA and Google Chrome,<BR>>>> which
together move like a lightening boltaround web pages.<BR>>>> Reaper
itself dumps all automatable parameters is an awkward to use<BR>>>>
list, but I never found any of those listed parameters useful to get
an<BR>>>> uncooperative synth to expose its presets, so you can play
them.<BR>>>> Either by accident when roaming around the interface and
left clicking,<BR>>>> or with sighted help, I've got preset inc and
dec arrows located, in<BR>>>> several synths, like NI's Massive, FM8
and Absynth 5, plus Zebra, Nexus,<BR>>>> and others; and found ways
to get back to those preset buttons, which is<BR>>>> at least miminal
access.<BR>>>> With as many accessible VST synths that are available,
like Z3TA, which<BR>>>> readily exposes all its presets, same with
Gladiator,Firebird, and many<BR>>>> others, one could say why
frustrate oneself with uncooperative synths.<BR>>>> Still, some
synths sound so beautiful we get sucked into unraveling<BR>>>> their
puzzle.<BR>>>> With me it's Camel Audio's Alchemy, which I have been
working on for a<BR>>>> couple of years now.<BR>>>>
Novation's AutoMap has been a blessing at getting every parameter of
VST<BR>>>> plugs onto hardware knobs and buttons, but it is no help
at finding and<BR>>>> navigating interface menus, dialogs, and other
bit map screen monkey<BR>>>> puzzles one needs for total
access.<BR>>>> Indi <BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
On 12/28/2013 4:31 PM, Jackie McBride wrote:<BR>>>>>
Unfortunately, Jaws 10 is pretty old & may not be picking up on
stuff<BR>>>>> it needs to pick up on. Having said that, though,
Crystall, there are<BR>>>>> some settings I'd advise u to change
in Jaws. First, u should consider<BR>>>>> setting graphics to
all--not labeled, & definitively not none. Also,<BR>>>>> try
going into your verbosity preferences & check to read
the<BR>>>>> tooltips. Lastly, try seeing what happens if u set
jaws to follow pc.<BR>>>>> U might get some tooltips to read &
be able to figure out what some of<BR>>>>> those unlabeled
graphics do, & then u can label 'em. Unset that option<BR>>>>>
when you're done, though, or it'll drive u absolutely
nutso.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> U might also try NVDA & see
if that provides any better results.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
On 12/28/13, Crystal Dennis <<A
href="mailto:valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com">valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>> I feel like that may be the problem: I
have gone into the preferences<BR>>>>>> dialogues and can only
see very sparce things with the JAWS cursor.<BR>>>>>> In that
case: Does anyone know an accessible set of orchestra
sinths<BR>>>>>> I can test
out?<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> On 12/28/13, Gianluca
Apollaro <<A
href="mailto:gianluca.apollaro88@gmail.com">gianluca.apollaro88@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>> Hi list,<BR>>>>>>> if
some synths are working and some other arn't it probably
means<BR>>>>>>> that<BR>>>>>>> the not
working ones have a non accessible interface and that
you<BR>>>>>>> have<BR>>>>>>> to click on
some graphics to make them load their sounds.<BR>>>>>>>
Hth,<BR>>>>>>> Best regards,<BR>>>>>>>
Gianluca from Italy.<BR>>>>>>> Skype Id:
gianluca8815<BR>>>>>>> Il 28/12/2013 04:46, Crystal Dennis
ha scritto:<BR>>>>>>>> Yeah and every other sinth is
working, so I'm wondering if I should<BR>>>>>>>> just try
another package until I find one that
works...<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> On
12/27/13, Drew <<A
href="mailto:amockery@gmail.com">amockery@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>> That is very odd. "Default" is,
well, the default--in other words<BR>>>>>>>>>
it's<BR>>>>>>>>> a<BR>>>>>>>>>
shortcut that points to whatever you've set as your default
device.<BR>>>>>>>>>
If<BR>>>>>>>>>
there<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>
are no devices, that's meaningless. You must have some sound
device<BR>>>>>>>>> otherwise you would not be able to
hear JAWS, but for it to not<BR>>>>>>>>>
show<BR>>>>>>>>>
up<BR>>>>>>>>> is<BR>>>>>>>>>
quite strange.<BR>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>>>>>>> From: "Crystal Dennis" <<A
href="mailto:valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com">valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 7:16 PM<BR>>>>>>>>>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Help with Sinth
VSTs<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
When I pull down the sound device menus I
have:<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
Primary Sound capture driver -- when Direct Sound is
selected<BR>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Sound Mapper --
When Wave out is
selected.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
those are the only 2 sound devices that show up and on midi
I<BR>>>>>>>>>>
have:<BR>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Wavable Sinth Disabled
(I tried right clicking and no<BR>>>>>>>>>>
menus<BR>>>>>>>>>> came up at all....I'm also using
JAWS
10)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
The only things I can't get working are the sound libraries, and
I<BR>>>>>>>>>> feel like there's something vital
that I'm missing due to my<BR>>>>>>>>>> newbe-ness
in this subject....sorry if this is too many
questions!<BR>>>>>>>>>> But all I get are drop down
menus in preferences, no way to right<BR>>>>>>>>>>
click anything even with the JAWS
cursor<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
On 12/27/13, Indigo <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Crystal, do you have a
sound card that you installed into
your<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
computer,<BR>>>>>>>>>>> or is there only the
RealTech sound chip?<BR>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a
third-party soundcard installed, or just
RealTech,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
you<BR>>>>>>>>>>> need to get it recognized in
Reaper's preferences.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> You can play
VST synths using the RealTech chip, but with
large<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
delay<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
or<BR>>>>>>>>>>> latency; between the moment you
hit the note on the keyboard and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>> moment you hear the
note.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> To get either your installed
soundcard or the built in RealTech<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
chip<BR>>>>>>>>>>> enabled, press
ctrl+P.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Then navigate to
audio.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Then tab down to the field
that shows either your soundcard,
or<BR>>>>>>>>>>> RealTech, and get enabled;
instead of Disabled, after its
name;<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
by<BR>>>>>>>>>>> routing focus to the number
pad.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> The method will depend on
your screenreader, but it's similar
in<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Wineyes, Jaws and
NVDA.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Then focus at the numPad on
the soundcard's name, or Disabled.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Then right click at the number
pad<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
The Configure Dialog should
appear.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Press enter on the
Configure Dialog, and when it opens,
place<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
checkmarks<BR>>>>>>>>>>> on use as audio device,
etcetera.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Then arrow down to Midi
Device and follow the same procedure
for<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>> inputs and outputs for
midi.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Get Disabled routed over to
the number Pad, then focus on the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
soundcard's name or Disabled, then right click and you should
get<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>> midi configuration
Dialog.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Hit enter on
it.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> When it opens, place
checkmarks with your spacebar on Use as
midi<BR>>>>>>>>>>> device,
etcetera.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Then tab down to OK and
hit enter, and you'll be taken back
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
track<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
view.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> To get a synth to load, you
need to install it in a folder, or<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
copy/paste its .dll into a folder, so Reaper can find
it.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> I keep all VST's in C:\Program
Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins which,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
if<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
I<BR>>>>>>>>>>> typed it correctly, is the exact
path to my synths folder.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> To type
in the path to where you are keeping VST plugIns,
press<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
ctrl+P,<BR>>>>>>>>>>> then arrow down to VST,
then tab down to where Reaper asks you
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
type<BR>>>>>>>>>>> in a path to your VST
plugIns.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Same here as when getting
a soundcard enabled, be sure to
click<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
enter<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
on<BR>>>>>>>>>>> OK before
exiting.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> To load a synth, press
the letter F while on a selected track
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>> load dialog
opens.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Navigate with tab and
arrows to the desired plugIn and hit
enter<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
on<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
it,<BR>>>>>>>>>>> and it loads to the selected
track.<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Now, while arrowed to the track with the loaded plug, tab
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
you'll<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
get<BR>>>>>>>>>>> various recording
options.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Set monitor to Normal
with your arrow keys, so you can hear
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
synth<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
play.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Be sure to hit enter to keep
your settings.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> I can't tell you
what to set as the recording source, since
I've<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
never<BR>>>>>>>>>>> used the virtual keyboard,
and have no idea how to set up a
synth<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>> play from virtual
keyboard.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Indi<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
On 12/26/2013 7:52 PM, Crystal Dennis
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi again! I
seriously need some help, so hopefully I came
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> right place
:)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have been using reaper for awhile, and I recently wanted
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
start<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> composing my own music
tracks with instrument sinths. I'm
using<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual keyboard, and have
downloaded a few sinth sets
but...I<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
have<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> had this same problem
with all of them: They haven't
been<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
playing<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> when I load the track
into reaper! Here's what I've been
doing:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
- Installing the software (I've tried Eastwest and
Miroslave<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> Filharmonic with the
same results for both - no
audio)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> - Then I've tinkered
with my audio device settings with
no<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
results.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now I am very, very new with dealing with sinths, so
my<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
questions<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
are:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
Do I need some new software that reaper doesn't have?
I<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
don't<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
have<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> any Aceo drivers, could
that be why? or does the
Virtual<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
Keyboard<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> just not work for all
plugins...I've tried spicy guitar also
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
it<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't play either.
Sound magics VSTs have worked for me,
but<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> about it really.
There's something that says 32 Out and 8
Out<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
next<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> some of the files, what
does that mean? Are there any
other<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
orchestra<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> sinth packs that
work better with Reaper I could try out?
I<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
really<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> just want to get
something working because right now I have
a<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
ton<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> GB taken up with nothing to
show for it. So mainly I'm a
noob<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
with<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> sinths who needs
help!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry for this novel! Any help would be greatly appreciated
:)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
Crystal<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
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