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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Since you mentioned lesson plans I might as well
plug myself and Mr. Derek Lane's audio course, offered through the Cisco Academy
for Vision Impaired. We explain the fundamentals of audio (as the name implies)
such as different microphone types, shielding, balanced VS. unbalanced cables,
bit depth/sample rate, , what different effects are, and so forth. Then we take
you through editing in either single or multi track, depending on what your
interest is. GW/Reaper are the ones taught but you can use your own, and most of
the concepts transfer, if you're willing to learn. At $150 it is simply the most
comprehensive distance learning instruction you can have that is blindness
specific and also ludicrously inexpensive. If anyone's interested they can learn
more at <A
href="http://wiki.cucat.org/index.php?n=Main.AudioEditingFundamentals"><FONT
size=3>http://wiki.cucat.org/index.php?n=Main.AudioEditingFundamentals</FONT></A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cb1963@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">Chris
Belle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2013 9:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Help with Sinth
VSTs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The closest thing to a turnkey solution for a daw
out there now that has comprehensive tutorials, and a way to do most things
you want to do</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>is caketalking from dancing dots for cakewalk
sonar 8.5.3 on windows,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and then some third party devs have
made</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>synths accessible with hsc for kontak libraries,
and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>other high end synths, some of this has trickled
over to reaper,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>but more of it is available on the sonar
side.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I use both reaper and sonar, and like them each
for different reasons, I tend to like reaper for an out and out audio editor
for cross-fading and post production stuff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>sonar's audio editing is kind of clunky, but it's
midi editing is great.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But technically you can do everything with both
daws.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Much more work has been done on the sonar side
though because it was what most of us used for years and years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>re-access is considered abandon ware now, and
isn't being developed anymore.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Caketalking just released it's last update for
sonar 8.5.3</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and there are rumors of a script package for
sonar x3, but nothing for sure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The interface changed so much that it's basically
gonna take a whole re-write.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Some over here are using later versions of
reaper,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and using re-access with work arounds, but most I
think are more audio guys than midi guys.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We've got a few pioneers in different camps, I
know of one cubass user who hired a programmer to make things accessible for
him,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>a couple of protools users,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>it all depends on how fast you need to get up to
speed and what your goals are.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Reaper holds lots of promise, and some are
working being productive with it and making money,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>but there is no fixed way for a blind person to
grab a tutorial, and or buy a lesson plan, and get there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Perhaps some of the advanced users here would
give lessons for hire, and; you could get them to teach
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Good luck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=keithint1234@gmail.com href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">Keith
Hinton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2013 6:11
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Help with Sinth
VSTs</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi,<BR>I wanted to point outsomething important about you
buyig a Mac if<BR>that's something you intend to do.<BR>The example
applications we'll use are Apple's GarageBand and Logic<BR>software, but you
need to understand that not everything is sighted<BR>help free, even on OS
X.<BR>Basicly, GarageBand used to be useable, we had effects,
compressors,<BR>and other things we could apply to music/audio.<BR>However,
when Logic ten and GarageBand ten came out (total software<BR>rewrites), the
effects, compressors, amp moddlers, and so on,<BR>disappeared as far as
Voiceover goes. Why? Because, Apple, much like<BR>how this has been the case
for Windows apps for years requiring<BR>scripting as a result, has been
visually making the interfaces<BR>"visually appealing.".<BR>This means, that
amongst other things, all the controls are<BR>non-standard, so VoiceOver
will ever find them. They actually<BR>digitally made BitMap nobs and other
nice visually appealing graphic<BR>icons for things in GarageBand, but this
also means they have done the<BR>same for the effects and compresors,
etc.<BR>We are left quite literally pounding button after button after
button<BR>after button, hoping to hell things happen when they happen, etc,
as<BR>of the rewrite.<BR>The fact of the matter is, only sighted folks are
having no trouble<BR>with the latest Logic or GarageBand programs on OS X
respectively.<BR>And you'll be stuck with this horrible rewrite of an
application, as<BR>it ships on all new Macs with OS X 10.9.<BR>Most of the
keyboard shortcuts do not speak anymore, either as of the<BR>GarageBand ten
release rewrite either.<BR>Conflicting reports exist for logic, but I'm just
pointing out that if<BR>you don't think that sighted help isn't also an
issue on OS X, do not<BR>be so sure of what you say before thinking about it
first.<BR>Voiceover isn't all it's cracked up to be necessarily, depending
on<BR>the circumstances in witch you use it.<BR>there will always be an
application that you or I cannot access<BR>without sighted help to what
extent depends on how many nonstandard<BR>controls were used.<BR>I'm
predicting that someday, scripting heavily around badly coded<BR>interfaces
for OS X applications somehow will be the norm in the<BR>future.<BR>Just
some interesting thoughts to consider.<BR><BR><BR>On 12/30/13, Crystal
Dennis <<A
href="mailto:valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com">valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> Thanks for all the help guys. I've been having issues
with accessing<BR>> the preference windows even with the JAWS cursors and
clicking star<BR>> and everything, and putting graphics on read all
didn't do anything in<BR>> Eastwest. I wasn't aware that this would
be an issue with sinths, so<BR>> I am a little sad because I wanted to
really use some orchestra<BR>> sinths: The accessible ones I have
right now are more dance sinths (I<BR>> have z3TA plus) I am currently on
the hunt for any accessible<BR>> orchestra sinths, so any help with that
would be appreciated. I'm<BR>> also debating having a sighted
friend just set it up for me, but it's<BR>> ashame that that has to be
the solution to these sorts of problems<BR>> other than just buying a mac
that has more on board accessibility lol.<BR>><BR>> I will continue
troubleshooting/testing sinths though, thanks everyone!<BR>><BR>> On
12/29/13, Indigo <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> Jackie, I once experimented with enabling audio devices
and midi devices<BR>>> in Reaper with Wineyes 6.1, Jaws 10 and NVDA
2012.<BR>>> The method was very similar in each for routing disabled
over to the<BR>>> number pad, focusing on it there, then pressing the
star key for a right<BR>>> click to bring up the configuration
dialog.<BR>>> I don't think its either easier or more difficult with
any of those, and<BR>>> I didn't find any impossible moves in Reaper
for those particular<BR>>> screenreaders.<BR>>><BR>>> For
making VST synths play that don't easily display their presets,
I<BR>>> found it was hit and miss as to which screenreader displayed
what<BR>>> interface parameters.<BR>>> Wineyes previous and next
clip is the most useful screenreader move I<BR>>> found for locating
elusive interface icons, but I'm not skilled enough<BR>>> in
Jaws to utilize all its potential in its numPad cursors, nor did
I<BR>>> ever learn to use its OCR function.<BR>>> I don't know
if anyone has yet found all that NVDA's object navigation<BR>>> can
do, and I'm constantly surprised at what I can read with NVDA.<BR>>>
On this online surfing computer I now have only NVDA and Google
Chrome,<BR>>> which together move like a lightening boltaround web
pages.<BR>>> Reaper itself dumps all automatable parameters is an
awkward to use<BR>>> list, but I never found any of those listed
parameters useful to get an<BR>>> uncooperative synth to expose its
presets, so you can play them.<BR>>> Either by accident when roaming
around the interface and left clicking,<BR>>> or with sighted help,
I've got preset inc and dec arrows located, in<BR>>> several synths,
like NI's Massive, FM8 and Absynth 5, plus Zebra, Nexus,<BR>>> and
others; and found ways to get back to those preset buttons, which
is<BR>>> at least miminal access.<BR>>> With as many accessible
VST synths that are available, like Z3TA, which<BR>>> readily exposes
all its presets, same with Gladiator,Firebird, and many<BR>>> others,
one could say why frustrate oneself with uncooperative synths.<BR>>>
Still, some synths sound so beautiful we get sucked into
unraveling<BR>>> their puzzle.<BR>>> With me it's Camel Audio's
Alchemy, which I have been working on for a<BR>>> couple of years
now.<BR>>> Novation's AutoMap has been a blessing at getting every
parameter of VST<BR>>> plugs onto hardware knobs and buttons, but it
is no help at finding and<BR>>> navigating interface menus, dialogs,
and other bit map screen monkey<BR>>> puzzles one needs for
total access.<BR>>> Indi <BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On
12/28/2013 4:31 PM, Jackie McBride wrote:<BR>>>> Unfortunately,
Jaws 10 is pretty old & may not be picking up on stuff<BR>>>>
it needs to pick up on. Having said that, though, Crystall, there
are<BR>>>> some settings I'd advise u to change in Jaws. First, u
should consider<BR>>>> setting graphics to all--not labeled, &
definitively not none. Also,<BR>>>> try going into your verbosity
preferences & check to read the<BR>>>> tooltips. Lastly, try
seeing what happens if u set jaws to follow pc.<BR>>>> U might get
some tooltips to read & be able to figure out what some
of<BR>>>> those unlabeled graphics do, & then u can label 'em.
Unset that option<BR>>>> when you're done, though, or it'll drive u
absolutely nutso.<BR>>>><BR>>>> U might also try NVDA
& see if that provides any better
results.<BR>>>><BR>>>> On 12/28/13, Crystal Dennis <<A
href="mailto:valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com">valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>> I feel like that may be the problem: I have
gone into the preferences<BR>>>>> dialogues and can only see
very sparce things with the JAWS cursor.<BR>>>>> In that
case: Does anyone know an accessible set of orchestra
sinths<BR>>>>> I can test
out?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On 12/28/13, Gianluca Apollaro
<<A
href="mailto:gianluca.apollaro88@gmail.com">gianluca.apollaro88@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>> Hi list,<BR>>>>>> if some
synths are working and some other arn't it probably means
that<BR>>>>>> the not working ones have a non accessible
interface and that you have<BR>>>>>> to click on some
graphics to make them load their sounds.<BR>>>>>>
Hth,<BR>>>>>> Best regards,<BR>>>>>> Gianluca
from Italy.<BR>>>>>> Skype Id:
gianluca8815<BR>>>>>> Il 28/12/2013 04:46, Crystal Dennis ha
scritto:<BR>>>>>>> Yeah and every other sinth is working,
so I'm wondering if I should<BR>>>>>>> just try another
package until I find one that
works...<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> On
12/27/13, Drew <<A
href="mailto:amockery@gmail.com">amockery@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>> That is very odd. "Default" is, well,
the default--in other words<BR>>>>>>>>
it's<BR>>>>>>>> a<BR>>>>>>>>
shortcut that points to whatever you've set as your default
device.<BR>>>>>>>> If<BR>>>>>>>>
there<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> are no
devices, that's meaningless. You must have some sound
device<BR>>>>>>>> otherwise you would not be able to
hear JAWS, but for it to not show<BR>>>>>>>>
up<BR>>>>>>>> is<BR>>>>>>>> quite
strange.<BR>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>>>>>> From: "Crystal Dennis" <<A
href="mailto:valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com">valkyriecelesyt@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 7:16 PM<BR>>>>>>>>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Help with Sinth
VSTs<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>
When I pull down the sound device menus I
have:<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>
Primary Sound capture driver -- when Direct Sound is
selected<BR>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Sound Mapper -- When
Wave out is
selected.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>
those are the only 2 sound devices that show up and on midi I
have:<BR>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Wavable Sinth Disabled
(I tried right clicking and no<BR>>>>>>>>>
menus<BR>>>>>>>>> came up at all....I'm also using
JAWS
10)<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>
The only things I can't get working are the sound libraries, and
I<BR>>>>>>>>> feel like there's something vital that
I'm missing due to my<BR>>>>>>>>> newbe-ness in this
subject....sorry if this is too many
questions!<BR>>>>>>>>> But all I get are drop down
menus in preferences, no way to right<BR>>>>>>>>>
click anything even with the JAWS
cursor<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>
On 12/27/13, Indigo <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>> Crystal, do you have a sound
card that you installed into your<BR>>>>>>>>>>
computer,<BR>>>>>>>>>> or is there only the
RealTech sound chip?<BR>>>>>>>>>> If you have a
third-party soundcard installed, or just
RealTech,<BR>>>>>>>>>>
you<BR>>>>>>>>>> need to get it recognized in
Reaper's preferences.<BR>>>>>>>>>> You can play
VST synths using the RealTech chip, but with
large<BR>>>>>>>>>>
delay<BR>>>>>>>>>>
or<BR>>>>>>>>>> latency; between the moment you
hit the note on the keyboard and<BR>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>> moment you hear the
note.<BR>>>>>>>>>> To get either your installed
soundcard or the built in RealTech<BR>>>>>>>>>>
chip<BR>>>>>>>>>> enabled, press
ctrl+P.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Then navigate to
audio.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Then tab down to the field
that shows either your soundcard, or<BR>>>>>>>>>>
RealTech, and get enabled; instead of Disabled, after its name;
by<BR>>>>>>>>>> routing focus to the number
pad.<BR>>>>>>>>>> The method will depend on your
screenreader, but it's similar in<BR>>>>>>>>>>
Wineyes, Jaws and NVDA.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Then focus
at the numPad on the soundcard's name, or
Disabled.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Then right click at the
number
pad<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
The Configure Dialog should appear.<BR>>>>>>>>>>
Press enter on the Configure Dialog, and when it opens,
place<BR>>>>>>>>>>
checkmarks<BR>>>>>>>>>> on use as audio device,
etcetera.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Then arrow down to Midi
Device and follow the same procedure
for<BR>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>> inputs and outputs for
midi.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Get Disabled routed over to
the number Pad, then focus on the<BR>>>>>>>>>>
soundcard's name or Disabled, then right click and you should
get<BR>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>> midi configuration
Dialog.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Hit enter on
it.<BR>>>>>>>>>> When it opens, place checkmarks
with your spacebar on Use as midi<BR>>>>>>>>>>
device, etcetera.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Then tab down to
OK and hit enter, and you'll be taken back to
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>
track<BR>>>>>>>>>>
view.<BR>>>>>>>>>> To get a synth to load, you
need to install it in a folder, or<BR>>>>>>>>>>
copy/paste its .dll into a folder, so Reaper can find
it.<BR>>>>>>>>>> I keep all VST's in C:\Program
Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins which,<BR>>>>>>>>>>
if<BR>>>>>>>>>>
I<BR>>>>>>>>>> typed it correctly, is the exact
path to my synths folder.<BR>>>>>>>>>> To type in
the path to where you are keeping VST plugIns,
press<BR>>>>>>>>>>
ctrl+P,<BR>>>>>>>>>> then arrow down to VST, then
tab down to where Reaper asks you to<BR>>>>>>>>>>
type<BR>>>>>>>>>> in a path to your VST
plugIns.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Same here as when getting a
soundcard enabled, be sure to click<BR>>>>>>>>>>
enter<BR>>>>>>>>>>
on<BR>>>>>>>>>> OK before
exiting.<BR>>>>>>>>>> To load a synth, press the
letter F while on a selected track
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>> load dialog
opens.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Navigate with tab and arrows
to the desired plugIn and hit enter<BR>>>>>>>>>>
on<BR>>>>>>>>>>
it,<BR>>>>>>>>>> and it loads to the selected
track.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
Now, while arrowed to the track with the loaded plug, tab
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>
you'll<BR>>>>>>>>>>
get<BR>>>>>>>>>> various recording
options.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Set monitor to Normal with
your arrow keys, so you can hear the<BR>>>>>>>>>>
synth<BR>>>>>>>>>>
play.<BR>>>>>>>>>> Be sure to hit enter to keep
your settings.<BR>>>>>>>>>> I can't tell you what
to set as the recording source, since
I've<BR>>>>>>>>>>
never<BR>>>>>>>>>> used the virtual keyboard, and
have no idea how to set up a synth<BR>>>>>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>>>>> play from virtual
keyboard.<BR>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry,<BR>>>>>>>>>>
Indi<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
On 12/26/2013 7:52 PM, Crystal Dennis
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Hi again! I
seriously need some help, so hopefully I came to
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>> right place
:)<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
I have been using reaper for awhile, and I recently wanted
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
start<BR>>>>>>>>>>> composing my own music
tracks with instrument sinths. I'm
using<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>> virtual keyboard, and have
downloaded a few sinth sets
but...I<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
have<BR>>>>>>>>>>> had this same problem with
all of them: They haven't
been<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
playing<BR>>>>>>>>>>> when I load the track
into reaper! Here's what I've been
doing:<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
- Installing the software (I've tried Eastwest and
Miroslave<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Filharmonic with the
same results for both - no
audio)<BR>>>>>>>>>>> - Then I've tinkered with
my audio device settings with no<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
results.<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Now I am very, very new with dealing with sinths, so my
questions<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
are:<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Do
I need some new software that reaper doesn't have?
I<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
don't<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
have<BR>>>>>>>>>>> any Aceo drivers, could
that be why? or does the
Virtual<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Keyboard<BR>>>>>>>>>>> just not work for all
plugins...I've tried spicy guitar also
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
it<BR>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't play either.
Sound magics VSTs have worked for me,
but<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
that's<BR>>>>>>>>>>> about it really.
There's something that says 32 Out and 8
Out<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
next<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>> some of the files, what does
that mean? Are there any
other<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
orchestra<BR>>>>>>>>>>> sinth packs that work
better with Reaper I could try out?
I<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
really<BR>>>>>>>>>>> just want to get
something working because right now I have a
ton<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>>>>>> GB taken up with nothing to
show for it. So mainly I'm a
noob<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
with<BR>>>>>>>>>>> sinths who needs
help!<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry for this novel! Any help would be greatly appreciated
:)<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Crystal<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
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