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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yes, each loop in the matrix could be assigned to a
different track with it's own effects if you want.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=33indigo@charter.net href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">Indigo</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 02, 2013 8:41
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper and midi
loops</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Jean,<BR>Yesterday I ran an internet radio app on my Android
tablet, and realized <BR>how far America is behind the rest of the world
musically.<BR>Yes, we have some great hits, but new genres often begin
elsewhere.<BR>I heard trance like I never quite heard before, made of many
loops <BR>running simultaneously.<BR>The player would bring a particular loop
up or down in volume, put it <BR>through various effects, filters, flangers,
equalization.<BR>Meanwhile loops are dropping out and being replaced with new
rhythms, <BR>new background phrases, constantly changing so as not to become
boring.<BR>I've been a fan of trance for years, but never heard it done so
well.<BR>I agree about Ableton Live, it's just the thing for loop music.<BR>I
tried it way back in, I think, version 6, with no success.<BR>I think
you're underestimating Sonar's matrix view.You not only can <BR>determine in
each cell how loops interrupt previous loops, and whether <BR>they're 1 shot
or continuous, but, by placing a loop on separate midi <BR>channels, I think
there's some method of having separate effects per <BR>channel; so you could
manipulate effects on whatever loops that were <BR>playing on that channel at
the moment.<BR>I really don't know the rest of Sonar very well.<BR>I'm very
hazy how to set up effects bins per channel on matrix view's
<BR>output.<BR>Matrix view itself is very easy, though.<BR>did it once or
twice, so know it's possible to assign 61 midi keyboard <BR>keys with 61
different loops, or midi files, or samples, each with <BR>different rules as
to how they play.<BR>You could assign 128 keys if you want, and shift octaves
on the keyboard <BR>to reach all of them.<BR>My only problem with Sonar and
its matrix view was not having enough <BR>computer power at that time for it,
so Sonar crashed about as soon as I <BR>finished assigning keys to
loops.<BR><BR>Then I got into Reaper, and shelved Sonar for a while.<BR>Reaper
has nothing to compare with Sonar's matrix view though, but you <BR>can place
loops, or samples onto tracks, and they'll play when the play <BR>cursor
reaches them, but that's not as intuitive and spontaneous as <BR>being able to
play them live from the midi keyboard.<BR>Indi<BR>On 11/1/2013 3:02 PM,
Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:<BR>> Hi Indi,<BR>> You know, maybe I don't
like sonars matrix view because for a moment i<BR>> thought it would do
what I dreamed of, and it doesn't, and neither does<BR>> copying two bars a
hundred times.<BR>> I would like to be able to run a loop in which I could
add or remove<BR>> events while it's running, and record These ads and
removals in real<BR>> time, and other instruments on normal tracks
Simultaneously.<BR>> If I was a developper I would create this peace of
software myself.<BR>> I know one sequencer that does it, it's called live
from Ableton, but<BR>> it's not accessible whatsoever.<BR>> I only dream
I would have these possibilities.<BR>> For now, I use an MPC 3000 which is
synced to sonar when I want to do<BR>> These kind of things. It works but
Why does one need two machines to do<BR>> the job?<BR>> Best
regards,<BR>> JPR<BR>><BR>> <A
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Le 01/11/2013 18:12, Indigo a écrit :<BR>>> I think Sonar's matrix view
is great.<BR>>> Once you understand that it's laid out in columns and
rows, and each<BR>>> cell contains the several different ways you can
trigger a loop, it's<BR>>> easy.<BR>>> As far as looping in
Reaper, there's nothing wrong with pasteing a<BR>>> loop onto a track as
many times as you want it to repeat.<BR>>> Reaper is so efficient
pasteing a loop a hundred times won't consume<BR>>> enough CPU power to
slow down a modern computer even a tiny bit.<BR>>> Indi<BR>>>
.<BR>>><BR>>> On 11/1/2013 5:42 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel
wrote:<BR>>>> Hi guys,<BR>>>> I don't know if anyone has
tried ripper with MIDI. I hope it's good<BR>>>> because I'm still
using MIDI a lot. I would like to do something that<BR>>>> sonar
cannot do.<BR>>>> Can you have a 2 or 4 bars loop running while the
other tracks are free<BR>>>> to record/playback as many bars as you
want? The only way to do this in<BR>>>> sonar is using this awful
matrix thing or of course copy 2 bars 99 times<BR>>>> or
more.<BR>>>> And in fact, it doesn't really do the job either because
I like changing<BR>>>> things to a loop sometimes in live
improvisation situations.<BR>>>> Would be nice if Ripper could do
it.<BR>>>> Best,<BR>>>>
JPR<BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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