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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It's like when creating midi channels to a soft
synth using the create receives for all midi channels on the soft synth
function.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>in that combo box, I know different function but
same principal, saves a whole lot of work.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=patrick@pdaudio.net href="mailto:patrick@pdaudio.net">Patrick
Perdue</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 14, 2013 8:09
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Sidechaining in Reaper
4x</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>No, that wouldn't help you much there. However grouping similar
types of <BR>tracks leaves you with a few less sends to create when you're
busing <BR>things out. In this case, it might also be a bit faster if you look
at <BR>it in reverse. Start with your fx track and create receives instead of
<BR>sending from the source tracks. Just a small workflow thing. The
<BR>end-result is the same.<BR><BR>On 10/14/2013 8:52 AM, Scott Chesworth
wrote:<BR>> Would folders speed you up any when it came to something like
sending<BR>> a bunch of noncontiguous tracks to the same instance of a
reverb<BR>> though? I can't quite picture how that'd work in my mind
without<BR>> reordering tracks, which probably isn't any less button bashy
than<BR>> creating sends lol. Feel free to set me straight if I'm
missing<BR>> something.<BR>><BR>> I use folders as buses primarily,
and love them for that. Every time<BR>> I'm mixing in Pro Tools and faffing
about with groups, I find myself<BR>> wishing I was working in Reaper with
folders. So much quicker to<BR>> create and tweak what's
included.<BR>><BR>> On 10/14/13, Patrick Perdue <<A
href="mailto:patrick@pdaudio.net">patrick@pdaudio.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> Scott wrote:<BR>>> "Now, if I could only find a way
of scrolling down this new<BR>>> well behaved list and selecting
noncontiguous tracks to create a bunch<BR>>> of sends in one shot, this
would be the best Monday in memory."<BR>>><BR>>> That's what I use
folders for, among other things. Yeah, I know that's<BR>>> not the
point, but it's quick.<BR>>><BR>>> On 10/14/2013 8:33 AM, Scott
Chesworth wrote:<BR>>>> After the combobox you used to create them,
you should find that each<BR>>>> send becomes part of the tab order
in the I/O window. For each send,<BR>>>> you'll have a delete button,
then level, then pan. Tab again and<BR>>>> you'll land on the delete
button for the next send, and so on. Now<BR>>>> that I'm in the
habbit of hitting tab 3 times per send and using<BR>>>> Shift+Space
on the delete buttons, I can zip through and tidy up<BR>>>> pretty
quick. They seem to appear in order of creation, which is a
bit<BR>>>> less intuitive than I'd like, but what are you gonna
do.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Sometimes, it's quicker to view the I/O of
a different track and<BR>>>> delete the receive instead. The workflow
is exactly the same, just<BR>>>> depends on the routing as to which
option will mean the least amount<BR>>>> of headbutting your tab
key.<BR>>>><BR>>>> BTW, I'm not sure which versions of
Reaper and NVDA you're using, but<BR>>>> here on Reaper 4.54 and NVDA
2013.2, Jim's suggestion of Alt+Down<BR>>>> arrow on that add sends
combobox does get around the cranky 2 second<BR>>>> behaviour. Now,
if I could only find a way of scrolling down this new<BR>>>> well
behaved list and selecting noncontiguous tracks to create a
bunch<BR>>>> of sends in one shot, this would be the best Monday in
memory.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Scott<BR>>>><BR>>>>
On 10/14/13, Drew <<A
href="mailto:amockery@gmail.com">amockery@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>> My mistake. Still, though--and you may have already
answered this as<BR>>>>> well--how do you select the send you want
to delete? My understanding is<BR>>>>>
you<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> can only delete the most recently
added send.<BR>>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <<A
href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">scottchesworth@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:34 AM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP]
Sidechaining in Reaper
4x<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>> Just one
thing. You don't need to route cursors and whatnot to
delete<BR>>>>>> sends from the I/O window, just use Shift+Space
instead of plain old<BR>>>>>> Space on the delete button for
each send. Using the tab order instead<BR>>>>>> of a menu does
add up to being a few more buttons to push than 3.78,<BR>>>>>>
but if you like non screen reader specific workflows that's
probably<BR>>>>>> the way to get it done for
now.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Think I posted that
earlier in the thread, meant to anyway. Maybe it<BR>>>>>>
got<BR>>>>>>
missed.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Scott<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> On 10/14/13, Drew <<A
href="mailto:amockery@gmail.com">amockery@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>> It's time to play, welcome to the end of
the thought process!<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
The issues we've been talking about basically all week are
the<BR>>>>>>>
following:<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> -Once you
select the track you want your send to go to, after
two<BR>>>>>>>
seconds<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
it<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> will make the send
and then return you to the top of the combo, which<BR>>>>>>>
is<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> course "add new
send." This is okay, but blind people don't tend
to<BR>>>>>>> like<BR>>>>>>> settings
taking effect until they're entirely done poking around;
it's<BR>>>>>>> not<BR>>>>>>> intuitive and
can lead to adding a whole bunch of sends without<BR>>>>>>>
realizing<BR>>>>>>> what's going on. In JAWS, if you use
alt+down arrow, you can arrow up<BR>>>>>>>
and<BR>>>>>>> down this list all day with no repercussions;
however this seems not<BR>>>>>>>
do-able<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> in NVDA, or at
least, so my admittedly brief testing
shows.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> -Deleting a
send from the IO dialog is, while possible, clunky.
Having<BR>>>>>>> to<BR>>>>>>> rout your
cursor around and click to remove one send at a time in
a<BR>>>>>>>
specific<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> order is much
less elegant than how it's done in Reaper 3: go to
the<BR>>>>>>> offending send in the shift-applications menu
and uncheck it. The
end.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> -Unless I'm
missing something, there's no easy way to send the
output<BR>>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> master track
anywhere but channels 1/2 without setting it up in<BR>>>>>>>
project<BR>>>>>>>
defaults.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Don't
misunderstand: I love Reaper4 and use it as my main
production<BR>>>>>>> environment. However, inconsistencies
like these keep people from<BR>>>>>>>
taking<BR>>>>>>> advantage of Reaper 4's new features. I
would imagine that this is all<BR>>>>>>> easily manageable
if you use ReaConsole, but no one to my knowledge<BR>>>>>>>
has<BR>>>>>>> tried setting it up that way. Honestly I don't
really care because I<BR>>>>>>>
barely<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> sidechain or
need sends, but I can't in good conscience tell
people<BR>>>>>>> it's<BR>>>>>>> fully
accessible when it isn't. Apparently the ones who really
care<BR>>>>>>> have<BR>>>>>>> better
things to do than write replies like this, so...
you're<BR>>>>>>> welcome,<BR>>>>>>>
or<BR>>>>>>> something.<BR>>>>>>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>>>>>>> From: "Indigo" <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>><BR>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:43 AM<BR>>>>>>> Subject:
Re: [RWP] Sidechaining in Reaper
4x<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>
I just opened Reaper 454, inserted a track, then pressed I for
the<BR>>>>>>>> ReaAccess IO
dialog.<BR>>>>>>>> On any of the lines I tab to that show
collapsed, alt+down arrow<BR>>>>>>>>
expands<BR>>>>>>>> them.<BR>>>>>>>>
On number of channels alt+down arrow goes immediately to the
bottom<BR>>>>>>>> of<BR>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> list, 64
channels.<BR>>>>>>>> On sends collapsed, alt+down arrow
shows 2 choices:<BR>>>>>>>> 1, Add New Send; 2, Add Sends
to All Tracks.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>
So, alt+down arrow definitely exposes some new options, or maybe
just<BR>>>>>>>> a<BR>>>>>>>> new
approach to old options, in NVDA, not just in
jaws.<BR>>>>>>>>
Indi<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> On
10/13/2013 10:01 PM, Drew wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>> Actually,
I think that it is. I didn't test extensively, but
that<BR>>>>>>>>>
seemed<BR>>>>>>>>> to work better under JAWS than
NVDA. Strange.<BR>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"<BR>>>>>>>>> <<A
href="mailto:Snowman@SnowmanRadio.com">Snowman@SnowmanRadio.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:22 PM<BR>>>>>>>>>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Sidechaining in Reaper
4x<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
Alt+downArrow definitely helps here. That is using jaws. Not
sure<BR>>>>>>>>>>
if<BR>>>>>>>>>> that is something jaws is doing,
but I didn't think
so.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew" <<A
href="mailto:amockery@gmail.com">amockery@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:13
PM<BR>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Sidechaining in
Reaper
4x<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Afraid not.<BR>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message
----- From: "Jim Snowbarger"<BR>>>>>>>>>>>
<<A
href="mailto:Snowman@SnowmanRadio.com">Snowman@SnowmanRadio.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:42
PM<BR>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Sidechaining
in Reaper
4x<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
About the combo box for sends automatically applying after
one<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> second, does it help to
press alt+downArrow first, to open
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
list<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> box? In some cases,
the application will then let you
arrow<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> throught the choices at
leasure, and you can press alt+upArrow
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> close and select once you
are
finished.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
----- Original Message ----- From:
"Indigo"<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> <<A
href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:09
PM<BR>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP]
Sidechaining in Reaper
4x<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeh, I found shift+i a couple of days ago, and wondered what
it<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
would<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> be good
for.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I just brought up Reaper 454, inserted an empty track,
pressed<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> shift+i and got 3
selections at the arrow up/down
keys.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1, Sends, radio
button, checked.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2,
Receives, radio button,
checked.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3, Hardware,
radio button,
checked.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
While any of those are selected with up/down arrows; I press
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> tab key and get, for
instance:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sends, combo
box, collapsed.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I then
press alt+down arrow it says
expanded.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> When either of
the others are selected, tab; then alt+down
arrow<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> works the
same.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Indi<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2013 6:18
PM, Gianluca Apollaro
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Patric and
list,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
shift+Application key doesn't work in reaper 4, Once
you<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
created<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the send,
Shift+I works so the channel 1/2=3/4 can be done
as<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
it's<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
done<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in reaper
3.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hth,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gianluca from
Italy<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SkypeID.
gianluca8815<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il
12/10/2013 23:49, Patrick Perdue ha
scritto:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. So,
after looking at Reaper 3.78's native track
routing<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
matrix,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here's
what I've found. I don't know if it's the same in
4.x.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Once a send has been created from source (trigger)
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
destination<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(processor,) use your screen reader of choice's review
stuff<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
a<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line that says:
"Audio:1/2 =>1/2" It should be below
things<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
like<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete,
post-fade, post-pan,
etc.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, change
the latter half of that from >=1/2 to >=3/4
by<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking
on<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =1/2. A
menu will appear.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now, if your destination track has been set up with
four<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels,
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your source
track is sending to channels 3/4 of
destination,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ReaComp (or
whatever compressor you're using for keyed
input)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
is<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving from
3/4 rather than 1/2, you're good, barring
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
obvious<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit of
adjusting compression parameters to get your
desired<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
effect.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 10/12/2013 5:34 PM, Scott Chesworth
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must
be missing something obvious. Seems like if I set
this<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
up<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
with<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sends,
both signals will go into the same input of
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
compressor.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Granted, that'll sound different than if I hadn't done
it,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
but<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the
same as sending that secondary signal into the
key<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
input<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
compressor or whatever they call it in plugins
nowadays<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
compressor is reacting to it as a separate source is
it?<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Been<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
a<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while since
I actually patched in hardware, so forgive
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
potentially<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
rookie
question.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Cheers<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Scott<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 10/12/13, Drew <<A
href="mailto:amockery@gmail.com">amockery@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
have to press i to view the track IO. Tab to the
"sends:<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
add<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new"
combo<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
box and press the down arrow. From there it's pretty
much<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
same<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
in<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaper
3. The only part I can't figure out is how to
change<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
send<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
goes; it defaults to the top track or the second track
if<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
already on
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
top track.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: "Scott Chesworth" <<A
href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">scottchesworth@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 11:05
AM<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Subject: [RWP] Sidechaining in Reaper
4x<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Does anyone have a workflow for getting this done in
Reaper<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
4<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
with<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NVDA? Struggling to get some weird arty atmospheric
loops<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sit
in<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
mix here, and I'm thinking some ducking triggered
by<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
drum
bus<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
might tie things together a bit
better.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Any tips
appreciated...<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Scott<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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