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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Right, I'lll have to play with those settings
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yes, that's the great thing about reaper, you can
always undo,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and by default reaper remembers every little move
you made, even selecting tracks and every little volume change,
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=scottchesworth@gmail.com href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">Scott
Chesworth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility
Query from New User</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Chris, what have you got your default crossfade length set to?
Sounds<BR>to me like you're hearing the default length of 00:00.010, which
is<BR>way too long IMO considering that Reaper isn't smart enough yet
to<BR>know when it's actually necessary and will apply it whenever you
make<BR>any sort of cut so you end up with little gaps all over the shop
if<BR>you have any redundant splits. If I'm doing a ton of editing and
know<BR>crossfades are gonna be heavily used, I usually embrace the madness
of<BR>having them on every split but drop my setting back to something
like<BR>00:00.003, which does a pretty good job of zapping clicks and pops
but<BR>is barely noticeable to my ears. If you're more sensitive to
that<BR>sound than I am, you might want to just abandon having a
default<BR>crossfade altogether and look after each split
manually.<BR><BR>Probably also worth pointing out that Jim is spot on, none of
this<BR>stuff is applied distructively unless you choose for that to be so
by<BR>gluing items, rendering a version complete with processing
etc.<BR><BR>Scott<BR><BR><BR>On 9/12/13, Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>
Well, for some reason even though reaper does a nice job of playing
back,<BR>> split items especially if you use the z to get 0 crossings, it
still sounds<BR>> split in some cases, if you push amplitude changes
too far, where as<BR>> automation doesn't.<BR>><BR>> But for most
practical purposes, it amounts to the same thing and doesn't<BR>>
matter.<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> From: Jim Snowbarger<BR>> To: Reapers
Without Peepers<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:53
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>><BR>><BR>> My guess is that, when you split an
audio item, nothing actually happens<BR>> to the signal. An item is
just a set of control parameters, And, if two<BR>> adjacent
items refer to adjacent parts of the audio file, I but there
isn't<BR>> even any cross fading going on. It's like me telling you
to count from 1 to<BR>> 3, and then count from 4 to 10. I wont'
hear you jump from 3 to 4. Your<BR>> brain will concatenate
automatically, and you'll count from 1 to 10, and<BR>> I'll believe
you.<BR>> The only down side is the need to press control+right
Arrow more times to<BR>> get anywhere. But,
hey.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: Chris
Belle<BR>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013
7:06 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper
Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>><BR>><BR>> Well, at least with item
based editing in reaper, you don't mess up<BR>>
anything.<BR>><BR>> It bothers me that we have
to split audio to do things, even though it<BR>> works, and reaper's
crossfades are very smooth, it's still technically not<BR>> cool to have to
tear apart your audio just to do a little
automation.<BR>> Or get around, in other words, to
my engineer's head it's better to bend<BR>> it than break it, even if you
can fix it prety good.<BR>> Just in midi, this
concept will work better, because it won't be<BR>> necessary to cross-fade
broken audio events.<BR>><BR>> It's just a
matter of grouping then more than any physical changes to<BR>> the actual
data.<BR>><BR>> Item based midi editing, ok then
, this will help, the other shoe drops<BR>>
'grin'.<BR>><BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: David
P Shortland<BR>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, September
11, 2013 5:55 PM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hi &
Greetings from Down
Under...<BR>><BR>> Not as far as I
have been abel to
discover....<BR>><BR>> It always
seems to start at the beginning of the Event
List...<BR>><BR>> You can use Page
Up & Page Down keys to jump 7 events at a
time...<BR>><BR>> However, the work
around that I do for this one is if I need to edit<BR>> something that is
say 16 bars into a Item.... I just do a split just before<BR>> the section
I wish to edit and Voila when the new Item is opened you are<BR>> right
there...<BR>><BR>> The more I use
REAPER ... the more I am getting to know how this Item<BR>> based Editing
worx...<BR>><BR>> ...and liking
it...<BR>><BR>> It does not matter
to me whether a Trak has One Item, several items or<BR>> several thousand
items,... at any given time you can Glue all the Items<BR>> together and
each part retains what you have edited and you can start<BR>>
again...<BR>><BR>> Also just as a
quick mention, which some of us may need to get our<BR>> heads around, is
the concept of not having a dedicated SubGroup area.... the<BR>>
flexibility that REAPER allows by being able to put anything anywhere
and<BR>> being able to route anything to anywhere is simply in a word ...
NICE!!!<BR>><BR>> Anyway... on with
the Editing...<BR>><BR>><BR>>
Kind regards<BR>><BR>> David P
Shortland<BR>> DragonScore
Productions<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
From: Chris Belle<BR>> Sent: Thursday,
September 12, 2013 6:17 AM<BR>> To:
Reapers Without Peepers<BR>> Subject:
Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>><BR>> Hey, I have done that
but is there an easy way to move between midi<BR>>
events?<BR>><BR>> I mean you can
move along the time line, but in sonar it jumps through<BR>> all the extra
time and immediately goes to the next midi
event.<BR>><BR>> Or do you have to
go to the exact place on the time like for each midi<BR>>
event?<BR>><BR>> That was one thing
killing
me.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message
-----<BR>> From: David P
Shortland<BR>> To: Reapers
Without Peepers<BR>> Sent:
Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:45
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [RWP]
Reaper Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>><BR>> Hi &
Greetings again from Down
Under<BR>><BR>> Again,
just a little addendum to Indy's
post...<BR>><BR>> Once
you have selected the MIDI Item you wish to
Edit<BR>> Control plus Alt
plus E opens the MIDI
Editor...<BR>><BR>> You
only need to do this once but you need to go to the Options Menu<BR>>
(I<BR>> think) or it might
be the View Menu...(apologies not sure
which)<BR>><BR>> Select
Event List...<BR>><BR>>
You can scroll up and down the Event List with the cursor
keys<BR>><BR>> When you
want to Edit an Event Focus on it and press Control plus<BR>>
F2<BR>><BR>> This Opens
the Event Item Dialog and yu can TAB around and change<BR>>
whatever<BR>> you
wish...<BR>><BR>> No
need to go to the Apply or OK buttons just hit Enter when you<BR>>
have<BR>> finished your
Edit...<BR>><BR>> Kind
regards<BR>><BR>> David
P Shortland<BR>>
DragonScore
Productions<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
-----Original
Message-----<BR>> From:
Indigo<BR>> Sent:
Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:52
PM<BR>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>><BR>> I used
those ancient midi sequencers in dos or on the Atari ST; ,<BR>>
like<BR>> Voyettra Gold,
Doctor T's Keyboard Midi Sequencer, all
totally<BR>> accessible,
just punching in numbers, then I did midi from
hardware<BR>> sequencers,
from Yamaha and the MMT8; then I edited midi from
Sonar<BR>> versions 4, 6, 7
and 8.5.3, and to me all editing at the event level<BR>>
is<BR>> the most tedious,
most boring thing I could
imagine.<BR>><BR>> I'd
rather play in a passage a dozen times until I get it just<BR>>
right<BR>> than chase down
a single midi event and type in number
values.<BR>> But, for those
who don't mind, I think Reaper's layout for getting<BR>>
at<BR>> notes and every
single note event possible at tab and arrow
keys<BR>> couldn't be more
ideal.<BR>> How could it be
easier than having everything neately labeled and<BR>>
laid<BR>> out at the taband
arrow keys; where you can arrow to other note<BR>>
values,<BR>> for instance,
or type in different numbers for velocity, note<BR>>
length,<BR>> pitch, program
number, yada yada
yada?<BR>> One thing to
note is that; when finished with editing; you need to<BR>>
tab<BR>> to apply, and then
hit enter; but there can be another step that<BR>>
might<BR>> or might not be
required.<BR>> At certain
places, you might need to find an OK button that needs to<BR>>
be<BR>> clicked; after
pressing enter on Apply takes you back to the track<BR>>
view;<BR>> so look out for
that one.<BR>> If anyone is
not hearing their changes of values being applied to<BR>>
their<BR>> music, go to
your number pad and use your PC cursor slash mouse<BR>>
pointer<BR>> slash object
navigation to find that OK button, then left click
it.<BR>> I'll go search my
collection and repost David Shortland's method
of<BR>> reaching the midi
editor.<BR>> By the way,
since it's a different midi editor than the inline<BR>>
editor<BR>> that Ivan's
shortcut reached, maybe reaAccess is not doing anything<BR>>
to<BR>> assist with access
of David's midi editor, it's just
screenreader<BR>> friendly
because Reaper is written that way, using Microsoft<BR>>
standard<BR>> menus and
controls.<BR>>
Indi<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
On 9/11/2013 4:51 AM, Scott Chesworth
wrote:<BR>> > I'm really
not a MIDI type, but sure, a repost of David's steps<BR>>
is<BR>> > bound to help
someone.<BR>>
><BR>> > Yeah, of
course MIDI is MIDI is MIDI from DAW to DAW, but I'd<BR>>
wager<BR>> > there would
be neat little tips and tricks people use to speed
up<BR>> > editing which
are specific to each one. Sometimes, just
watching<BR>> > someone
else who's got a workflow down smashing through a task can<BR>>
be<BR>> > quite
inspiring.<BR>>
><BR>> >
Scott<BR>>
><BR>>
><BR>> > On 9/11/13,
Indigo <<A href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> >> I'll
dig out and post the guide to bringing up the midi editor,<BR>>
David<BR>> >>
Shortland style, which is step-by-step to get inside the midi<BR>>
editor,<BR>> >> right
down to the event list for each note of your music along<BR>>
the<BR>> >>
timeline.<BR>> >>
Anyone who has the least experience with editing midi events in<BR>>
every<BR>> >>
sequencer or daw ever made should know that midi is midi; and it<BR>>
isn't<BR>> >>
different in a different
daw.<BR>> >> Each
event is clearly labeled in Reaper, in plain English, and if<BR>>
you<BR>> >> want to
shorten or lengthen a note length, or move the note up or<BR>> down
a<BR>> >> list of
chromatic notes, or shift it to another octave, or alter<BR>>
its<BR>> >> velocity
number, or move the note's position on the timeline, or<BR>>
a<BR>> >> thousand
other editing details; duh, what's so hard about that to<BR>>
figure<BR>> >>
out?<BR>> >> So, it's
laid out differently from Voyettra Gold, or Sonar, or<BR>>
ProTools,<BR>> >>
don't we all expect
that?<BR>> >> It's
good for the health of our brain cells to exercise them,<BR>>
otherwise<BR>> >> we
get to be an old dog that can't learn new
tricks.<BR>> >> When
all note events are clearly labeled, all laid out very<BR>>
conveniently<BR>> >>
at the tab keys, with edit fields at the arrow keys, what more<BR>>
could<BR>> >> anyone
ever hope for in access from a
screenreader?<BR>> >>
Indi<BR>>
>><BR>>
>><BR>> >> On
9/10/2013 8:15 PM, Scott Chesworth
wrote:<BR>> >>>
I've dropped Roy a line to see whether he'd have time to share<BR>>
some<BR>> >>>
wisdom. Just hit on the idea of spending a bit of time hanging<BR>>
out<BR>> >>> with
each of the people on here that are using Reaper to do<BR>>
cool<BR>> >>>
stuff, whatever their stuff may be. I'd interview them and<BR>> record
a<BR>> >>> bit of
them in action for an hour at most, then handle all the<BR>>
boring<BR>> >>>
editing uploading headache stuff so they don't have too. Seems<BR>> like
if<BR>> >>> enough
people are keen to be featured it'd make a neat little<BR>>
podcast<BR>> >>>
series. I could justify putting the time into it seeing as I'd<BR>>
no<BR>> >>> doubt
learn a bunch of stuff along the
way.<BR>>
>>><BR>>
>>> Let's see what happens. First time I've been excited
about<BR>> Reaper in
a<BR>> >>> while,
so I hope the response from Roy is positive so I can<BR>>
strike<BR>> >>>
while the iron is hot
here.<BR>>
>>><BR>>
>>> Scott<BR>>
>>><BR>>
>>> On 9/11/13, Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> Roy seems to have a leg up on some of the things we don't,
bet<BR>> he'd<BR>>
>>>> help<BR>>
>>>> out<BR>>
>>>> if we approached him with a few
clams.<BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>
>>>> From: Goldfinga
Productions<BR>>
>>>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013
5:28 PM<BR>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper
Accessibility Query from New<BR>>
User<BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>> ah, well that is a hole new animal… I
can do some of it,<BR>> but
I<BR>> >>>>
would<BR>> >>>>
like<BR>> >>>>
to better edit stuff. Is there a person doing this already? Are<BR>>
they<BR>> >>>>
giving<BR>>
>>>> lessons?
lol<BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Chris
Belle"<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>><BR>>
>>>> > I mean doing detailed editing
and such.<BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>> > Are you down with that, I
can load up and play midi and<BR>>
such,<BR>> >>>>
but<BR>> >>>>
detailed editing and nudging notes and doing transforms or<BR>> search
and<BR>> >>>>
replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that sort of<BR>>
stuff.<BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>> > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>
>>>> > From: Goldfinga
Productions<BR>>
>>>> > To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>>
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10,
2013 3:44 PM<BR>>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper
Accessibility Query from New<BR>>
User<BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>> > I use midi all the time with
reaper…<BR>>
>>>> > That's why I have been all over
poise, that's one less<BR>> piece
of<BR>> >>>>
hardware<BR>>
>>>> that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can leave my npc
at<BR>> the<BR>>
>>>>
church.<BR>>
>>>> lol.<BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>> > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM,
"Chris Belle"<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>>
><BR>>
>>>> > > yeh,
reaper<BR>>
>>>> > > isn't where sonar is but
definitely useable,<BR>>
>>>> > > especially with straight
audio.<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > We're all gonna have to
flip Roy a few sheckles and get<BR>> him
to<BR>> >>>>
show us<BR>>
>>>> how he does midi with
reaper,<BR>>
>>>> > > I just ain't figured it out
yet.<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > I mean I can do basics load
a osft synth and hit the<BR>>
midi<BR>> >>>>
editor,<BR>>
>>>> > > and see some events and
such, but it ain't anything<BR>> like
sonar<BR>> >>>>
and<BR>> >>>>
there are no docs,<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > We desperately need some
serious docs shoing how to
do<BR>> >>>>
everything.<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>
>>>> > > From: Goldfinga
Productions<BR>>
>>>> > > To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>>
>>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September
10, 2013 3:34 PM<BR>>
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper
Accessibility Query from New<BR>>
User<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > That's exactly where I was
going with that. lol. I use<BR>>
reaper,<BR>>
>>>> hell,<BR>>
>>>> like I said in my last message, I paid for
it.<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25
PM, "Chris Belle"<BR>>
>>>> <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > I think GF was being
humorous.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > I took it that way
anyhow.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > Kind of how we get the
shaft and the end of the
line<BR>><BR>>
>>>>
everywhere<BR>>
>>>> in<BR>>
>>>> the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left
out,<BR>>
>>>> > > > but you know how it
works in this world, money talks<BR>>
and<BR>> >>>>
bullshit<BR>>
>>>>
walks.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > If there were 20
million blind reaper users ready to<BR>>
buy<BR>> >>>>
access<BR>>
>>>> would be here next week
'grin'.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > For now we just have
to cowboy up and do the best we<BR>>
can.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>
>>>> > > > From: Scott
Chesworth<BR>>
>>>> > > > To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>>
>>>> > > > Sent: Tuesday,
September 10, 2013 1:10
PM<BR>>
>>>> > > > Subject: Re: [RWP]
Reaper Accessibility Query from<BR>> New
User<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > Couple of points to
keep in mind before you dig too<BR>> deep
into<BR>> >>>>
slating<BR>>
>>>> > > > the Reaper developers
in public...<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > They are aware that a
visually impaired userbase<BR>> exists,
and<BR>> >>>>
have<BR>>
>>>> > > > gradually been
exposing GUI elements over time. If<BR>> you
need<BR>> >>>>
proof<BR>> >>>>
of<BR>>
>>>> > > > that, do some mousing
around in Reaper on PC and see<BR>> how
much<BR>> >>>>
NVDA<BR>>
>>>> > > > tells you, or compare
how much is visible with<BR>> VoiceOver
on<BR>> >>>>
Mac<BR>> >>>>
now<BR>>
>>>> > > > against a version from
a couple years back. API bugs<BR>>
that<BR>> >>>>
impacted<BR>>
>>>> > > > upon ReaAccess were
fixed, and there have been a<BR>> couple
of<BR>> >>>>
instances<BR>>
>>>> > > > where accessibility
gets a mention in the changelogs.<BR>>
A<BR>> >>>>
couple<BR>>
>>>> of<BR>>
>>>> > > > people with decent
track records of getting stuff<BR>> done are
in<BR>> >>>>
contact<BR>>
>>>> > > > with Justin the lead
developer, all be it<BR>>
sporadically.<BR>>
>>>>
They're<BR>>
>>>> not<BR>>
>>>> > > > shouting from the
rooftops about that, but when the<BR>>
progress<BR>>
>>>>
comes,<BR>>
>>>> it<BR>>
>>>> > > > happens in fits and
starts and has been largely due<BR>> to
nudges<BR>>
>>>> and<BR>>
>>>> > > > guidance from these
key people. I think it's fair to<BR>> say
that<BR>> >>>>
Cockos<BR>>
>>>> > > > have demonstrated that
they're happy to help, but<BR>> they
need<BR>> >>>>
guidance<BR>>
>>>> > > > and it needs to fit
around their existing roadmap. I<BR>>
think<BR>> >>>>
it's<BR>> >>>>
pretty<BR>>
>>>> > > > unfair to say we've
been shafted. If you must find a<BR>> home
for<BR>> >>>>
that<BR>>
>>>> > > > accusation, Ivan's
your man. Tell him who sent you<BR>>
lol.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > Is the future certain?
No. Then again, are their<BR>> other
DAW<BR>> >>>>
developers<BR>>
>>>> > > > showing markedly less
interest? You betcha.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > Nice idea re the NVDA
team. Last time I approached<BR>>
Jamie<BR>> >>>>
about<BR>> >>>>
Reaper<BR>>
>>>> > > > he was up to his ears
in Sonar as his pet project,<BR>> but
who<BR>> >>>>
knows,<BR>>
>>>> > > > someone else might
have better luck catching him at<BR>> the
right<BR>> >>>>
time.<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > >
Scott<BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga
Productions<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> > > > > Glad I could
brighten your day with that one.
lol.<BR>>
>>>> > > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > > On Sep 10, 2013,
at 9:18 AM, Keith
Hinton<BR>>
>>>> <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> > > >
><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>
Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay,<BR>>
I'll<BR>> >>>>
stop<BR>> >>>>
laughing<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>
now.<BR>>
>>>> > > > >> But yeah, I
think we've got it for
sure.<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >> On 9/10/13,
Goldfinga Productions<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>> Remember
folks, the developers of reaper call<BR>> them
selves<BR>>
>>>> "cockos."
If<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>
you<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>> break
that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I<BR>> think we
got<BR>> >>>>
the<BR>> >>>>
shaft on<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>
this<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>
one.<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>> On Sep
10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith
Hinton<BR>>
>>>> <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> I can
tel you, despite being new myself, that<BR>>
yes,<BR>> >>>>
ReaAccess<BR>>
>>>> has<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway<BR>>
for<BR>> >>>>
screen<BR>>
>>>> readers
to<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
interface to Reaper.<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> The
development has die out-last update was in<BR>>
2010.<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> A few
folks have been able to use Reaper 4
with<BR>><BR>>
>>>>
ReaAccess<BR>>
>>>> just<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but<BR>> as
I<BR>> >>>>
understand<BR>>
>>>> it<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> your
largely on your own with Reaper
anyways.<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any
native<BR>>
>>>>
accessibility<BR>>
>>>> exists
in<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
Reaper itself.<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
However, again, I could be utterly
wrong.<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> If
others could reply to this new users question<BR>>
as<BR>> >>>>
well,<BR>> >>>>
that<BR>> >>>>
might<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
help-but I believe I've answered
it.<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> On
9/10/13, Daveed Mandell<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:daveedm@sbcglobal.net">daveedm@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>>
>>>>
wrote:<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
Hello:<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
What is the status of Reaper accessibility<BR>> right now?
I<BR>> >>>>
understand<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
that<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
Reaper's developers have shown little or no<BR>> interest
in<BR>> >>>>
making<BR>>
>>>> the<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
software<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
accessible, and that accessibility has been<BR>>
provided<BR>>
>>>>
through<BR>>
>>>> a<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
separate<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
bridfe produced by blind people working from<BR>> this
list<BR>> >>>>
and<BR>> >>>>
website. I<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
also<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
understand that the website itself isn't<BR>>
functioning<BR>>
>>>>
anymore<BR>>
>>>> due
to<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
problems<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
related to spam. At any rate, is the latest<BR>> version
of<BR>> >>>>
Reaper,<BR>>
>>>>
version<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
4.5,<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
accessible for blind folks? It is interesting<BR>> to
note<BR>> >>>>
the<BR>> >>>>
difference<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
in<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
attitude between the developers of Reaper,<BR>> versus
the<BR>> >>>>
developers of<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
the<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
free<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
Audacity audio software, who have been
very<BR>> >>>>
conscientiously<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
integrating<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
accessibility into the software. Thanks for any<BR>>
updates<BR>>
>>>> and<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
information<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
regarding Reaper
accessibility.<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
Regards,<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>>
Daveed Mandell<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
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>>>> > > >
>>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
--<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
Sincerely,<BR>>
>>>> > > >
>>>><BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
Keith<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> Home
Phone:<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
928-554-3936<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
Mobile Phone:<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>>
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>>>> > > > >>>>
Primary email:<BR>>
>>>> > > > >>>> <A
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>>>> > > >
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Sincerely,<BR>>
>>>> > > >
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