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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think GF was being humorous.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I took it that way anyhow.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the
line everywhere in the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left
out,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>but you know how it works in this world, money
talks and bullshit walks.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If there were 20 million blind reaper users ready
to buy access would be here next week 'grin'.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best
we can.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=scottchesworth@gmail.com href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">Scott
Chesworth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility
Query from New User</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into
slating<BR>the Reaper developers in public...<BR><BR>They are aware that a
visually impaired userbase exists, and have<BR>gradually been exposing GUI
elements over time. If you need proof of<BR>that, do some mousing around in
Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA<BR>tells you, or compare how much is
visible with VoiceOver on Mac now<BR>against a version from a couple years
back. API bugs that impacted<BR>upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been
a couple of instances<BR>where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs.
A couple of<BR>people with decent track records of getting stuff done are in
contact<BR>with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically. They're
not<BR>shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress comes,
it<BR>happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to nudges
and<BR>guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say that
Cockos<BR>have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need
guidance<BR>and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think it's
pretty<BR>unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for
that<BR>accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.<BR><BR>Is the
future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW developers<BR>showing
markedly less interest? You betcha.<BR><BR>Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last
time I approached Jamie about Reaper<BR>he was up to his ears in Sonar as his
pet project, but who knows,<BR>someone else might have better luck catching
him at the right time.<BR><BR>Scott<BR><BR><BR>On 9/10/13, Goldfinga
Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.<BR>><BR>> On Sep 10,
2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay,
I'll stop laughing<BR>>> now.<BR>>> But yeah, I think we've got it
for sure.<BR>>><BR>>> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them
selves "cockos." If<BR>>>> you<BR>>>> break that down, it
spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the shaft on<BR>>>>
this<BR>>>>
one.<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> On Sep
10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>> I can tel you, despite being new
myself, that yes, ReaAccess has<BR>>>>> always been (basicly) the
accessibility pathway for screen readers to<BR>>>>> interface to
Reaper.<BR>>>>> The development has die out-last update was in
2010.<BR>>>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with
ReaAccess just<BR>>>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc,
but as I understand it<BR>>>>> your largely on your own with
Reaper anyways.<BR>>>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any
native accessibility exists in<BR>>>>> Reaper
itself.<BR>>>>> However, again, I could be utterly
wrong.<BR>>>>> If others could reply to this new users question as
well, that might<BR>>>>> help-but I believe I've answered
it.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On 9/10/13,
Daveed Mandell <<A
href="mailto:daveedm@sbcglobal.net">daveedm@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>
Hello:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> What is the status of
Reaper accessibility right now? I understand<BR>>>>>>
that<BR>>>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no
interest in making the<BR>>>>>>
software<BR>>>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been
provided through a<BR>>>>>> separate<BR>>>>>>
bridfe produced by blind people working from this list and website.
I<BR>>>>>> also<BR>>>>>> understand that the
website itself isn't functioning anymore due to<BR>>>>>>
problems<BR>>>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest
version of Reaper, version<BR>>>>>>
4.5,<BR>>>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to
note the difference<BR>>>>>> in<BR>>>>>>
attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the developers
of<BR>>>>>> the<BR>>>>>>
free<BR>>>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
conscientiously<BR>>>>>> integrating<BR>>>>>>
accessibility into the software. Thanks for any updates
and<BR>>>>>> information<BR>>>>>> regarding
Reaper accessibility.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Regards,<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Daveed
Mandell<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
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--<BR>>>>> Sincerely,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Keith<BR>>>>> Home Phone:<BR>>>>>
928-554-3936<BR>>>>> Mobile Phone:<BR>>>>>
928-713-6370<BR>>>>> Primary email:<BR>>>>> <A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
_______________________________________________<BR>>>>> RWP
mailing list<BR>>>>> <A
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GF<BR>>>><BR>>>> Check me out on twitter<BR>>>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
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--<BR>>> Sincerely,<BR>>><BR>>> Keith<BR>>> Home
Phone:<BR>>> 928-554-3936<BR>>> Mobile Phone:<BR>>>
928-713-6370<BR>>> Primary email:<BR>>> <A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A><BR>>><BR>>>
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GF<BR>><BR>> Check me out on twitter<BR>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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