<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.23515">
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Roy seems to have a leg up on some of the things we
don't, bet he'd help out if we approached him with a few clams.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=goldfingas@gmail.com href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">Goldfinga
Productions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility
Query from New User</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>ah, well that is a hole new animal… I can do some of it, but I
would like to better edit stuff. Is there a person doing this already? Are
they giving lessons? lol<BR><BR><BR>On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:16 PM, "Chris Belle"
<<A href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> I mean doing detailed editing and such.<BR>>
<BR>> Are you down with that, I can load up and play midi and such,
but detailed editing and nudging notes and doing transforms or search and
replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that sort of
stuff.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> From: Goldfinga Productions<BR>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44 PM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User<BR>> <BR>> I use midi all
the time with reaper…<BR>> That's why I have been all over poise, that's
one less piece of hardware that I have to hook up to the mixer. Now I can
leave my npc at the church. lol.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Sep 10, 2013, at
4:41 PM, "Chris Belle" <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>
<BR>> > yeh, reaper<BR>> > isn't where sonar is but definitely
useable,<BR>> > especially with straight audio.<BR>> >
<BR>> > We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get him to
show us how he does midi with reaper,<BR>> > I just ain't figured it out
yet.<BR>> > <BR>> > I mean I can do basics load a osft synth
and hit the midi editor,<BR>> > and see some events and such, but it
ain't anything like sonar and there are no docs,<BR>> > <BR>>
> We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to do
everything.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > -----
Original Message -----<BR>> > From: Goldfinga Productions<BR>> >
To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013
3:34 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New
User<BR>> > <BR>> > That's exactly where I was going with that.
lol. I use reaper, hell, like I said in my last message, I paid for it.
<BR>> > <BR>> > On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle" <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> <BR>> > > I think GF was being humorous.<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > I took it that way anyhow.<BR>> > > <BR>>
> > Kind of how we get the shaft and the end of the line everywhere in
the world and have to fight like dogs to not get left out,<BR>> > >
but you know how it works in this world, money talks and bullshit
walks.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > If there were 20 million
blind reaper users ready to buy access would be here next week 'grin'.<BR>>
> > <BR>> > > For now we just have to cowboy up and do
the best we can.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>>
> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > From: Scott
Chesworth<BR>> > > To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>> > >
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [RWP]
Reaper Accessibility Query from New User<BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into slating<BR>>
> > the Reaper developers in public...<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> They are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists, and have<BR>>
> > gradually been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need proof
of<BR>> > > that, do some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how
much NVDA<BR>> > > tells you, or compare how much is visible with
VoiceOver on Mac now<BR>> > > against a version from a couple years
back. API bugs that impacted<BR>> > > upon ReaAccess were fixed, and
there have been a couple of instances<BR>> > > where accessibility
gets a mention in the changelogs. A couple of<BR>> > > people with
decent track records of getting stuff done are in contact<BR>> > >
with Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically. They're not<BR>>
> > shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress comes,
it<BR>> > > happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to
nudges and<BR>> > > guidance from these key people. I think it's fair
to say that Cockos<BR>> > > have demonstrated that they're happy to
help, but they need guidance<BR>> > > and it needs to fit around
their existing roadmap. I think it's pretty<BR>> > > unfair to say
we've been shafted. If you must find a home for that<BR>> > >
accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW
developers<BR>> > > showing markedly less interest? You
betcha.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last
time I approached Jamie about Reaper<BR>> > > he was up to his ears
in Sonar as his pet project, but who knows,<BR>> > > someone else
might have better luck catching him at the right time.<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Scott<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> >
> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> > > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton
<<A href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >>
Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll stop laughing<BR>>
> > >> now.<BR>> > > >> But yeah, I think we've got
it for sure.<BR>> > > >><BR>> > > >> On 9/10/13,
Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> > >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them
selves "cockos." If<BR>> > > >>> you<BR>> > >
>>> break that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the
shaft on<BR>> > > >>> this<BR>> > > >>>
one.<BR>> > > >>><BR>> > > >>><BR>>
> > >>><BR>> > > >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37
AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
> > >>> wrote:<BR>> > > >>><BR>> > >
>>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess
has<BR>> > > >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility
pathway for screen readers to<BR>> > > >>>> interface to
Reaper.<BR>> > > >>>> The development has die out-last
update was in 2010.<BR>> > > >>>> A few folks have been
able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess just<BR>> > > >>>>
fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but as I understand it<BR>>
> > >>>> your largely on your own with Reaper
anyways.<BR>> > > >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not
believe any native accessibility exists in<BR>> > > >>>>
Reaper itself.<BR>> > > >>>> However, again, I could be
utterly wrong.<BR>> > > >>>> If others could reply to
this new users question as well, that might<BR>> > > >>>>
help-but I believe I've answered it.<BR>> > >
>>>><BR>> > > >>>><BR>> > >
>>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <<A
href="mailto:daveedm@sbcglobal.net">daveedm@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > >>>>> Hello:<BR>> > >
>>>>><BR>> > > >>>>> What is the status
of Reaper accessibility right now? I understand<BR>> > >
>>>>> that<BR>> > > >>>>> Reaper's
developers have shown little or no interest in making the<BR>> > >
>>>>> software<BR>> > > >>>>>
accessible, and that accessibility has been provided through a<BR>> >
> >>>>> separate<BR>> > > >>>>>
bridfe produced by blind people working from this list and website. I<BR>>
> > >>>>> also<BR>> > > >>>>>
understand that the website itself isn't functioning anymore due to<BR>>
> > >>>>> problems<BR>> > > >>>>>
related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version of Reaper, version<BR>>
> > >>>>> 4.5,<BR>> > > >>>>>
accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the difference<BR>>
> > >>>>> in<BR>> > > >>>>>
attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the developers of<BR>>
> > >>>>> the<BR>> > > >>>>>
free<BR>> > > >>>>> Audacity audio software, who have
been very conscientiously<BR>> > > >>>>>
integrating<BR>> > > >>>>> accessibility into the
software. Thanks for any updates and<BR>> > > >>>>>
information<BR>> > > >>>>> regarding Reaper
accessibility.<BR>> > > >>>>><BR>> > >
>>>>> Regards,<BR>> > > >>>>><BR>>
> > >>>>> Daveed Mandell<BR>> > >
>>>>><BR>> > > >>>>><BR>> > >
>>>>><BR>> > > >>>>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> > >
>>>>> RWP mailing list<BR>> > > >>>>>
<A href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > >
>>>>> <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> > >>>>><BR>> > > >>>><BR>> >
> >>>><BR>> > > >>>> --<BR>> > >
>>>> Sincerely,<BR>> > > >>>><BR>> >
> >>>> Keith<BR>> > > >>>> Home
Phone:<BR>> > > >>>> 928-554-3936<BR>> > >
>>>> Mobile Phone:<BR>> > > >>>>
928-713-6370<BR>> > > >>>> Primary email:<BR>> >
> >>>> <A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A><BR>> >
> >>>><BR>> > > >>>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> > >
>>>> RWP mailing list<BR>> > > >>>> <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > >
>>>> <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> > >>><BR>> > > >>><BR>> > >
>>> GF<BR>> > > >>><BR>> > > >>>
Check me out on twitter<BR>> > > >>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>
> > >>><BR>> > > >>><BR>> > >
>>><BR>> > > >>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> > > >>>
RWP mailing list<BR>> > > >>> <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > >
>>> <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> > >>><BR>> > > >><BR>> > >
>><BR>> > > >> --<BR>> > > >>
Sincerely,<BR>> > > >><BR>> > > >> Keith<BR>>
> > >> Home Phone:<BR>> > > >> 928-554-3936<BR>>
> > >> Mobile Phone:<BR>> > > >>
928-713-6370<BR>> > > >> Primary email:<BR>> > >
>> <A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A><BR>> >
> >><BR>> > > >>
_______________________________________________<BR>> > > >> RWP
mailing list<BR>> > > >> <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > >
>> <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > GF<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > > Check me out on twitter<BR>> > >
> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
> _______________________________________________<BR>> > > >
RWP mailing list<BR>> > > > <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > > >
<A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > <BR>> > >
_______________________________________________<BR>> > > RWP mailing
list<BR>> > > <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > > <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > >
RWP mailing list<BR>> > > <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > > <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > GF<BR>> > <BR>> > Check me out on
twitter<BR>> > <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
_______________________________________________<BR>> > RWP mailing
list<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
> _______________________________________________<BR>> > RWP mailing
list<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>> > <A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> GF<BR>> <BR>> Check me out on twitter<BR>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> RWP mailing
list<BR>> <A href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
<A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> RWP mailing
list<BR>> <A href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR>>
<A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A><BR><BR><BR>GF<BR><BR>Check
me out on twitter<BR><A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>RWP
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</A><BR><A
href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>