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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I mean doing detailed editing and
such.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Are you down with that, I can load up
and play midi and such, but detailed editing and nudging notes and doing
transforms or search and replace like the interpolate dialogue in sonar, that
sort of stuff.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=goldfingas@gmail.com href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">Goldfinga
Productions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:44
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility
Query from New User</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I use midi all the time with reaper…<BR>That's why I have been
all over poise, that's one less piece of hardware that I have to hook up to
the mixer. Now I can leave my npc at the church. lol.<BR><BR><BR>On Sep 10,
2013, at 4:41 PM, "Chris Belle" <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> yeh, reaper<BR>> isn't where sonar is but definitely
useable,<BR>> especially with straight audio.<BR>> <BR>> We're
all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and get him to show us how he does
midi with reaper,<BR>> I just ain't figured it out yet.<BR>>
<BR>> I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit the midi
editor,<BR>> and see some events and such, but it ain't anything like sonar
and there are no docs,<BR>> <BR>> We desperately need some serious
docs shoing how to do everything.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: Goldfinga Productions<BR>> To: Reapers
Without Peepers<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34 PM<BR>>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User<BR>> <BR>>
That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use reaper, hell, like I
said in my last message, I paid for it. <BR>> <BR>> On Sep 10, 2013, at
4:25 PM, "Chris Belle" <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>
<BR>> > I think GF was being humorous.<BR>> > <BR>> >
I took it that way anyhow.<BR>> > <BR>> > Kind of how we get
the shaft and the end of the line everywhere in the world and have to fight
like dogs to not get left out,<BR>> > but you know how it works in this
world, money talks and bullshit walks.<BR>> > <BR>> > If
there were 20 million blind reaper users ready to buy access would be here
next week 'grin'.<BR>> > <BR>> > For now we just have to
cowboy up and do the best we can.<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: Scott
Chesworth<BR>> > To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>> > Sent: Tuesday,
September 10, 2013 1:10 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaper
Accessibility Query from New User<BR>> > <BR>> > Couple of points
to keep in mind before you dig too deep into slating<BR>> > the Reaper
developers in public...<BR>> > <BR>> > They are aware that a
visually impaired userbase exists, and have<BR>> > gradually been
exposing GUI elements over time. If you need proof of<BR>> > that, do
some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA<BR>> > tells
you, or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on Mac now<BR>> >
against a version from a couple years back. API bugs that impacted<BR>>
> upon ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of
instances<BR>> > where accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A
couple of<BR>> > people with decent track records of getting stuff done
are in contact<BR>> > with Justin the lead developer, all be it
sporadically. They're not<BR>> > shouting from the rooftops about that,
but when the progress comes, it<BR>> > happens in fits and starts and
has been largely due to nudges and<BR>> > guidance from these key
people. I think it's fair to say that Cockos<BR>> > have demonstrated
that they're happy to help, but they need guidance<BR>> > and it needs
to fit around their existing roadmap. I think it's pretty<BR>> > unfair
to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for that<BR>> >
accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.<BR>> > <BR>>
> Is the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW
developers<BR>> > showing markedly less interest? You betcha.<BR>>
> <BR>> > Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie
about Reaper<BR>> > he was up to his ears in Sonar as his pet project,
but who knows,<BR>> > someone else might have better luck catching him
at the right time.<BR>> > <BR>> > Scott<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> > Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS!
Oh dear! LOL Okay, I'll stop laughing<BR>> > >> now.<BR>> >
>> But yeah, I think we've got it for sure.<BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> >>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them selves
"cockos." If<BR>> > >>> you<BR>> > >>> break
that down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the shaft on<BR>> >
>>> this<BR>> > >>> one.<BR>> >
>>><BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> >
>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
> >>> wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> >
>>>> I can tel you, despite being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess
has<BR>> > >>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility
pathway for screen readers to<BR>> > >>>> interface to
Reaper.<BR>> > >>>> The development has die out-last update
was in 2010.<BR>> > >>>> A few folks have been able to use
Reaper 4 with ReaAccess just<BR>> > >>>> fine-looking up
workarounds for things etc, but as I understand it<BR>> >
>>>> your largely on your own with Reaper anyways.<BR>> >
>>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe any native accessibility
exists in<BR>> > >>>> Reaper itself.<BR>> >
>>>> However, again, I could be utterly wrong.<BR>> >
>>>> If others could reply to this new users question as well,
that might<BR>> > >>>> help-but I believe I've answered
it.<BR>> > >>>><BR>> > >>>><BR>> >
>>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <<A
href="mailto:daveedm@sbcglobal.net">daveedm@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > >>>>> Hello:<BR>> >
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>> What is the status of
Reaper accessibility right now? I understand<BR>> > >>>>>
that<BR>> > >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little
or no interest in making the<BR>> > >>>>>
software<BR>> > >>>>> accessible, and that accessibility
has been provided through a<BR>> > >>>>> separate<BR>>
> >>>>> bridfe produced by blind people working from this
list and website. I<BR>> > >>>>> also<BR>> >
>>>>> understand that the website itself isn't functioning
anymore due to<BR>> > >>>>> problems<BR>> >
>>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the latest version of
Reaper, version<BR>> > >>>>> 4.5,<BR>> >
>>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the
difference<BR>> > >>>>> in<BR>> >
>>>>> attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the
developers of<BR>> > >>>>> the<BR>> >
>>>>> free<BR>> > >>>>> Audacity audio
software, who have been very conscientiously<BR>> > >>>>>
integrating<BR>> > >>>>> accessibility into the software.
Thanks for any updates and<BR>> > >>>>>
information<BR>> > >>>>> regarding Reaper
accessibility.<BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >
>>>>> Regards,<BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >
>>>>> Daveed Mandell<BR>> > >>>>><BR>>
> >>>>><BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >
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> >>>>><BR>> > >>>><BR>> >
>>>><BR>> > >>>> --<BR>> >
>>>> Sincerely,<BR>> > >>>><BR>> >
>>>> Keith<BR>> > >>>> Home Phone:<BR>> >
>>>> 928-554-3936<BR>> > >>>> Mobile
Phone:<BR>> > >>>> 928-713-6370<BR>> >
>>>> Primary email:<BR>> > >>>> <A
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> >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>>
GF<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>> Check me out on
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> >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>>
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> >>><BR>> > >><BR>> > >><BR>> >
>> --<BR>> > >> Sincerely,<BR>> > >><BR>>
> >> Keith<BR>> > >> Home Phone:<BR>> > >>
928-554-3936<BR>> > >> Mobile Phone:<BR>> > >>
928-713-6370<BR>> > >> Primary email:<BR>> > >> <A
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> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > GF<BR>> > ><BR>>
> > Check me out on twitter<BR>> > > <A
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> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >
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