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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>yeh, reaper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>isn't where sonar is but definitely
useable,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>especially with straight audio.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We're all gonna have to flip Roy a few sheckles and
get him to show us how he does midi with reaper,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I just ain't figured it out yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I mean I can do basics load a osft synth and hit
the midi editor,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>and see some events and such, but it ain't anything
like sonar and there are no docs,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We desperately need some serious docs shoing how to
do everything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=goldfingas@gmail.com href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">Goldfinga
Productions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility
Query from New User</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>That's exactly where I was going with that. lol. I use reaper,
hell, like I said in my last message, I paid for it. <BR><BR>On Sep 10, 2013,
at 4:25 PM, "Chris Belle" <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> I think GF was being humorous.<BR>> <BR>> I
took it that way anyhow.<BR>> <BR>> Kind of how we get the shaft
and the end of the line everywhere in the world and have to fight like dogs to
not get left out,<BR>> but you know how it works in this world, money talks
and bullshit walks.<BR>> <BR>> If there were 20 million blind
reaper users ready to buy access would be here next week 'grin'.<BR>>
<BR>> For now we just have to cowboy up and do the best we
can.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> From: Scott Chesworth<BR>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:10 PM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Reaper Accessibility Query from New User<BR>> <BR>> Couple of
points to keep in mind before you dig too deep into slating<BR>> the Reaper
developers in public...<BR>> <BR>> They are aware that a visually
impaired userbase exists, and have<BR>> gradually been exposing GUI
elements over time. If you need proof of<BR>> that, do some mousing around
in Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA<BR>> tells you, or compare how much
is visible with VoiceOver on Mac now<BR>> against a version from a couple
years back. API bugs that impacted<BR>> upon ReaAccess were fixed, and
there have been a couple of instances<BR>> where accessibility gets a
mention in the changelogs. A couple of<BR>> people with decent track
records of getting stuff done are in contact<BR>> with Justin the lead
developer, all be it sporadically. They're not<BR>> shouting from the
rooftops about that, but when the progress comes, it<BR>> happens in fits
and starts and has been largely due to nudges and<BR>> guidance from these
key people. I think it's fair to say that Cockos<BR>> have demonstrated
that they're happy to help, but they need guidance<BR>> and it needs to fit
around their existing roadmap. I think it's pretty<BR>> unfair to say we've
been shafted. If you must find a home for that<BR>> accusation, Ivan's your
man. Tell him who sent you lol.<BR>> <BR>> Is the future certain? No.
Then again, are their other DAW developers<BR>> showing markedly less
interest? You betcha.<BR>> <BR>> Nice idea re the NVDA team. Last time I
approached Jamie about Reaper<BR>> he was up to his ears in Sonar as his
pet project, but who knows,<BR>> someone else might have better luck
catching him at the right time.<BR>> <BR>> Scott<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> Glad I could brighten your day with that one. lol.<BR>> ><BR>>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear!
LOL Okay, I'll stop laughing<BR>> >> now.<BR>> >> But yeah,
I think we've got it for sure.<BR>> >><BR>> >> On 9/10/13,
Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
>>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them selves
"cockos." If<BR>> >>> you<BR>> >>> break that down, it
spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the shaft on<BR>> >>>
this<BR>> >>> one.<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at
8:37 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>> I can tel
you, despite being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess has<BR>>
>>>> always been (basicly) the accessibility pathway for screen
readers to<BR>> >>>> interface to Reaper.<BR>>
>>>> The development has die out-last update was in 2010.<BR>>
>>>> A few folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess
just<BR>> >>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but
as I understand it<BR>> >>>> your largely on your own with
Reaper anyways.<BR>> >>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe
any native accessibility exists in<BR>> >>>> Reaper
itself.<BR>> >>>> However, again, I could be utterly
wrong.<BR>> >>>> If others could reply to this new users
question as well, that might<BR>> >>>> help-but I believe I've
answered it.<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>>
>>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <<A
href="mailto:daveedm@sbcglobal.net">daveedm@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> >>>>> Hello:<BR>>
>>>>><BR>> >>>>> What is the status of Reaper
accessibility right now? I understand<BR>> >>>>>
that<BR>> >>>>> Reaper's developers have shown little or no
interest in making the<BR>> >>>>> software<BR>>
>>>>> accessible, and that accessibility has been provided
through a<BR>> >>>>> separate<BR>> >>>>>
bridfe produced by blind people working from this list and website. I<BR>>
>>>>> also<BR>> >>>>> understand that the
website itself isn't functioning anymore due to<BR>> >>>>>
problems<BR>> >>>>> related to spam. At any rate, is the
latest version of Reaper, version<BR>> >>>>> 4.5,<BR>>
>>>>> accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the
difference<BR>> >>>>> in<BR>> >>>>>
attitude between the developers of Reaper, versus the developers of<BR>>
>>>>> the<BR>> >>>>> free<BR>>
>>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
conscientiously<BR>> >>>>> integrating<BR>>
>>>>> accessibility into the software. Thanks for any updates
and<BR>> >>>>> information<BR>> >>>>>
regarding Reaper accessibility.<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> Regards,<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> Daveed Mandell<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>><BR>> >>>>><BR>> >>>>>
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>>>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>>
>>>> --<BR>> >>>> Sincerely,<BR>>
>>>><BR>> >>>> Keith<BR>> >>>> Home
Phone:<BR>> >>>> 928-554-3936<BR>> >>>> Mobile
Phone:<BR>> >>>> 928-713-6370<BR>> >>>> Primary
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>>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> GF<BR>>
>>><BR>> >>> Check me out on twitter<BR>> >>>
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>> Sincerely,<BR>> >><BR>> >> Keith<BR>> >>
Home Phone:<BR>> >> 928-554-3936<BR>> >> Mobile
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