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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I am going to spring for it soon
myself.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I mean, it's only 50 bucks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I spend more than that going out to eat sometimes
'grin'.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=goldfingas@gmail.com href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">Goldfinga
Productions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Reaper Accessibility
Query from New User</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I was just making fun of the name of the company… I really like
what they have done with reaper. And I have also used ninjam…<BR><BR>But its
all good… I am down to do what ever it takes to make this thing work for us.
Its a nice program and I paid for it, even in the state it is in as far as
accessibility. <BR>On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Scott Chesworth <<A
href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">scottchesworth@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> Couple of points to keep in mind before you dig too deep
into slating<BR>> the Reaper developers in public...<BR>> <BR>> They
are aware that a visually impaired userbase exists, and have<BR>> gradually
been exposing GUI elements over time. If you need proof of<BR>> that, do
some mousing around in Reaper on PC and see how much NVDA<BR>> tells you,
or compare how much is visible with VoiceOver on Mac now<BR>> against a
version from a couple years back. API bugs that impacted<BR>> upon
ReaAccess were fixed, and there have been a couple of instances<BR>> where
accessibility gets a mention in the changelogs. A couple of<BR>> people
with decent track records of getting stuff done are in contact<BR>> with
Justin the lead developer, all be it sporadically. They're not<BR>>
shouting from the rooftops about that, but when the progress comes, it<BR>>
happens in fits and starts and has been largely due to nudges and<BR>>
guidance from these key people. I think it's fair to say that Cockos<BR>>
have demonstrated that they're happy to help, but they need guidance<BR>>
and it needs to fit around their existing roadmap. I think it's pretty<BR>>
unfair to say we've been shafted. If you must find a home for that<BR>>
accusation, Ivan's your man. Tell him who sent you lol.<BR>> <BR>> Is
the future certain? No. Then again, are their other DAW developers<BR>>
showing markedly less interest? You betcha.<BR>> <BR>> Nice idea re the
NVDA team. Last time I approached Jamie about Reaper<BR>> he was up to his
ears in Sonar as his pet project, but who knows,<BR>> someone else might
have better luck catching him at the right time.<BR>> <BR>>
Scott<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On 9/10/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> Glad I could brighten your day with that one.
lol.<BR>>> <BR>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> <BR>>>> Muhahahahahahahhahaha! Cock OS! Oh dear!
LOL Okay, I'll stop laughing<BR>>>> now.<BR>>>> But yeah, I
think we've got it for sure.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> On 9/10/13,
Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>> Remember folks, the developers of reaper call them
selves "cockos." If<BR>>>>> you<BR>>>>> break that
down, it spells "cock OS." lol. I think we got the shaft
on<BR>>>>> this<BR>>>>> one.<BR>>>>>
<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> On Sep 10,
2013, at 8:37 AM, Keith Hinton <<A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>
wrote:<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>> I can tel you, despite
being new myself, that yes, ReaAccess has<BR>>>>>> always been
(basicly) the accessibility pathway for screen readers
to<BR>>>>>> interface to Reaper.<BR>>>>>> The
development has die out-last update was in 2010.<BR>>>>>> A few
folks have been able to use Reaper 4 with ReaAccess
just<BR>>>>>> fine-looking up workarounds for things etc, but
as I understand it<BR>>>>>> your largely on your own with
Reaper anyways.<BR>>>>>> Without ReaAccess, I do not believe
any native accessibility exists in<BR>>>>>> Reaper
itself.<BR>>>>>> However, again, I could be utterly
wrong.<BR>>>>>> If others could reply to this new users
question as well, that might<BR>>>>>> help-but I believe I've
answered it.<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>> On 9/10/13, Daveed Mandell <<A
href="mailto:daveedm@sbcglobal.net">daveedm@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>> Hello:<BR>>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>>> What is the status of Reaper accessibility right
now? I understand<BR>>>>>>> that<BR>>>>>>>
Reaper's developers have shown little or no interest in making
the<BR>>>>>>> software<BR>>>>>>>
accessible, and that accessibility has been provided through
a<BR>>>>>>> separate<BR>>>>>>> bridfe
produced by blind people working from this list and website.
I<BR>>>>>>> also<BR>>>>>>> understand that
the website itself isn't functioning anymore due
to<BR>>>>>>> problems<BR>>>>>>> related to
spam. At any rate, is the latest version of Reaper,
version<BR>>>>>>> 4.5,<BR>>>>>>>
accessible for blind folks? It is interesting to note the
difference<BR>>>>>>> in<BR>>>>>>> attitude
between the developers of Reaper, versus the developers
of<BR>>>>>>> the<BR>>>>>>>
free<BR>>>>>>> Audacity audio software, who have been very
conscientiously<BR>>>>>>>
integrating<BR>>>>>>> accessibility into the software.
Thanks for any updates and<BR>>>>>>>
information<BR>>>>>>> regarding Reaper
accessibility.<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>
Regards,<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>> Daveed
Mandell<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>>
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<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>>>
--<BR>>>>>> Sincerely,<BR>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>> Keith<BR>>>>>> Home
Phone:<BR>>>>>> 928-554-3936<BR>>>>>> Mobile
Phone:<BR>>>>>> 928-713-6370<BR>>>>>> Primary
email:<BR>>>>>> <A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A><BR>>>>>>
<BR>>>>>>
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<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> GF<BR>>>>>
<BR>>>>> Check me out on twitter<BR>>>>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>>>>
<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>
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<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> --<BR>>>>
Sincerely,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Keith<BR>>>> Home
Phone:<BR>>>> 928-554-3936<BR>>>> Mobile
Phone:<BR>>>> 928-713-6370<BR>>>> Primary
email:<BR>>>> <A
href="mailto:keithint1234@gmail.com">keithint1234@gmail.com</A><BR>>>>
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<BR>>> <BR>>> GF<BR>>> <BR>>> Check me out on
twitter<BR>>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>>
<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>>
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