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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>That's a possibility.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Most of the time I'm using window-eyes or n v d a
when messing with reaper.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dragamilov@comcen.com.au href="mailto:dragamilov@comcen.com.au">David
P Shortland</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:07
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Looping</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi & Greetings from Springtime Down Under,<BR><BR>This is
definitely happening in 4.5.1.<BR><BR>I Select the Item, go into Item
Properties Change the Length value, put a <BR>checkmark in the Loop Item box
and hit Enter...<BR><BR>There are a couple of anomalies, that I could not get
my head around, simply <BR>for the fact that I could not reproduce the same
outcomes every time, but in <BR>the end the Loop idea worked.<BR><BR>I will
report on further findings as they arise...<BR><BR>As Indigo said, simply just
copying and pasting the item x amount of times <BR>is just as
easy.<BR><BR>Here might be a little fly in the ointment, for a little
consideration... <BR>perhaps the reason for different outcomes for different
peoples may be <BR>because of the different ScreenReaders that are being
used.<BR><BR>I use SystemAccess, and it seems to pick up a few more things ins
some <BR>Dialog Boxes than does NVDA. However, NVDA's object navigation beats
the <BR>hell out of SA's pathetic Mouse implementation.<BR><BR>Could JAWS be
getting in the way of any of the coding that REAACCESS has in <BR>place for
us?<BR><BR>I am not trying to slag off JAWS, it is just an
observation.<BR><BR>Kind regards<BR><BR>David P Shortland<BR>DragonScore
Productions<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From:
T.Reid<BR>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:34 AM<BR>To: 'Reapers Without
Peepers'<BR>Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping<BR><BR>I am also able to get this
working in 3.76.<BR><BR>Not sure if this was mentioned, but if you are using
audio and reduce the<BR>length of the item from the original source size, i.e.
from 4.0.31<BR>(measures, beats...) to 4.0.0, make sure you glue the item in
order to save<BR>it at the new length.<BR><BR>Then change the 4.0.0 to 16.0.0
and Boom, it loops 4 times.<BR>Should
work!<BR><BR>t<BR><BR>---<BR>#PennyPushUps Begins September 1 - September 30,
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Message-----<BR>From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces@reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Snowbarger<BR>Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:45 PM<BR>To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping<BR><BR>Ah, I bet this is the
clue. If this was mentioned, I missed it.<BR><BR>From
Indigo:<BR>but; after the procedure; selecting the stretch length item
again just<BR>before pressing play is essential, or you'll only play the
original length.<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Indigo"
<<A href="mailto:33indigo@charter.net">33indigo@charter.net</A>><BR>To:
"Reapers Without Peepers" <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>Sent: Tuesday,
September 03, 2013 2:34 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping<BR><BR><BR>This must
be one of those things that works when you've done it and<BR>believe in it,
mojo, in other words.<BR>I tried it with uneven length original item, and it
works.<BR>I think the clue is in having project settings set
to<BR>measures/beats/length, but; after the procedure; selecting the
stretch<BR>length item again just before pressing play is essential, or you'll
only<BR>play the original length.<BR>It really isn't worth banging the head
against the brick wall, just copy<BR>and paste, a good old method that only
requires seconds and ctrl+C then<BR>ctrl+v.<BR><BR>On 9/3/2013 1:07 PM,
Goldfinga Productions wrote:<BR>> Oh well. It was worth a try.
LOL<BR>><BR>> I wonder if the item has to stretch over the beat or
measure exactly?<BR>><BR>> Last night when I was trying to paste an item
over and over, I try to make<BR><BR>> sure that I pasted it exactly on the
beat. The item must of been a little<BR>> bit longer than I expected it
only played every other measure because an<BR>> item that overlaps another
item will not allow the second item to play for<BR><BR>> some
reason.<BR>> So maybe when we stretch the items, it's not looping because
the first<BR>> item is covering up other items. I don't know, I'm just
taking a shot in<BR>> the dark here with this. lol..<BR>><BR>> On Sep
3, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Scott Chesworth <<A
href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">scottchesworth@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Nope, I'm on 4 and had no luck either, so the
version probably isn't<BR>>> the variable here.<BR>>><BR>>>
Scott<BR>>><BR>>> On 9/3/13, Goldfinga Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>> I tried it last night with no success either using
version 3.78.<BR>>>> Maybe that's something that only works good in
version four?<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> On Sep 3, 2013,
at 12:24 PM, "Chris Belle" <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>> I know ain't this a maddening
little daw?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> We'll figure it out though
eventually.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>>>>> From: Jim
Snowbarger<BR>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>>>>>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 4:41 PM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Looping<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I can't make this work
either, although I did once. So, I know it is<BR>>>>>
possible to loop by extending.<BR>>>>> I selected an item, and
quadrupled the length, and had the loop Source<BR>>>>> checkbox
checked. The result was absolutely no change. If I cut
the<BR>>>>> length in half, then the item plays, and cuts off
early as expected.<BR>>>>> But,<BR>>>>> making it
longer had no effect at all.<BR>>>>> So, there is, as usual,
subtle nuances to how it actually behaves.<BR>>>>> Details,
the devil is always in the details.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>>>>> From: Chris
Belle<BR>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>>>>>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:14 AM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Looping<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Well, atleast for now we
can copy items to extend them,<BR>>>>> but I'd love to be able to
loop items to trim ends and such to prepare<BR>>>>> loops for
export and such.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>>>>> From: Scott
Chesworth<BR>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>>>>>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 3:14 PM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Looping<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Hmmm, no idea to be
honest man. When I tried this workflow and it<BR>>>>> didn't work
last time, I assumed it was because the source media<BR>>>>>
wasn't recorded in that session so Reaper didn't have so much of
a<BR>>>>> handle on it, but thinking about it, that's probably a
dumb thing to<BR>>>>> think. Anyway, I just tried it again to
build a trailing vocal delay,<BR>>>>> and it didn't work here. I
can tell that Reaper is extending the item<BR>>>>> length by the
right amount, but the audio itself isn't looping, so the<BR>>>>>
extention of length is just silence. The loop source checkbox
is<BR>>>>> checked in item
properties.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Anyone know where we're
going wrong with this?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Scott<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>> This was an imported file I had split in to a
few items.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Just for gins, I
did some manual de-essing by splitting out the<BR>>>>>>
sibalance<BR>>>>>> parts of words, and lowering item
volumes,<BR>>>>>> on the offending parts, I had that handy so I
selected one of the<BR>>>>>> items<BR>>>>>>
with<BR>>>>>> control right or left arrows and pressed
enter<BR>>>>>> and tabbed through item properties till I got to
the beat and time<BR>>>>>> settings<BR>>>>>> and
such, and<BR>>>>>> lengthened<BR>>>>>> the time,
and all it did was cause the volumes of the items down<BR>>>>>>
stream<BR>>>>>> from<BR>>>>>> the item I was
working on to be messed up,<BR>>>>>> like caused a jerk in the
amplitude,<BR>>>>>> so something is definitely going on, but no
looping.<BR>>>>>> /But when I copy an item and paste it right
next to it,<BR>>>>>> it repeats or loops just
fine.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> But it'd be nice to hear
a loop so you can see if you got it right,<BR>>>>>>
like<BR>>>>>> when processing a beat or some
such.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Any
thoughts?<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>>>>>> From: Scott
Chesworth<BR>>>>>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013
2:24 PM<BR>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP]
Looping<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Chris,<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Was the
source material you're trying to loop recorded in the
same<BR>>>>>> Reaper session? I've got a feeling
that makes a difference to<BR>>>>>>
whether<BR>>>>>> Indie's workflow will
work.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Scott<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> On 9/1/13,
Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>> I've seen this posted several times but it
never works that way for<BR>>>>>>
me.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> When I change to
beats and make the number larger in an item on a<BR>>>>>>
track,<BR>>>>>> and<BR>>>>>>> even nudged
down it only seems to change the envelope or volume of<BR>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>> items<BR>>>>>>> after the item I
changed, but not make the item
longer.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> I've tried
this with ripple both on and
off.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> The only way I
can loop so far is copying an item and pasting it at<BR>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>> end<BR>>>>>>> the number of
times I want, so it
doubles.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> There's
probably a better way to do
this.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>>>>>>> From:
Indigo<BR>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without
Peepers<BR>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01,
2013 2:03 AM<BR>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP]
Looping<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
You can loop an item in Reaper by first making sure the item
is<BR>>>>>> exactly<BR>>>>>>> an
even length, like 1, 2 or 4 measures, the most common
loop<BR>>>>>> lengths;<BR>>>>>>>
because if it is a fractional length; like 2.0.1 it will
drift<BR>>>>>> out<BR>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>> sync with the rest of the music as
it loops.<BR>>>>>>> Okay, say you have a 2
measure item to loop, select the item
with<BR>>>>>>> shift+A or ctrl+right
arrow.<BR>>>>>>> Then go to Item Properties;
select to display the item length in<BR>>>>>>
beats.<BR>>>>>>> Then multiply the item's length
by a multiple; which will cause<BR>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>> item<BR>>>>>>> to
loop that many times.<BR>>>>>>> For instance, if
the selected item is 2 measures in length,<BR>>>>>>
multiply<BR>>>>>> its<BR>>>>>>>
length shown in the length field by 10 and the item will loop
10<BR>>>>>> times.<BR>>>>>>> You
simply enter a new item length in the length field; then
tab<BR>>>>>> down<BR>>>>>>
to<BR>>>>>>> OK or whatever the confirmation is;
hit enter.<BR>>>>>>> It will occupy the new
length on the time line, with the original<BR>>>>>>
2<BR>>>>>>> measure item repeated 10
times.<BR>>>>>>> Turn ctrl+R off, you don't need
it to loop the item now.<BR>>>>>>> The standard
method to loop an item for sighted users is to grab<BR>>>>>>
the<BR>>>>>>> right end of the selected item
with the mouse and stretch its<BR>>>>>>
length<BR>>>>>>> out; like stretching a rubber
band; to the desired amount.<BR>>>>>>>
This item length multiplication method in Item Properties
does<BR>>>>>> exactly<BR>>>>>>>
the same thing.<BR>>>>>>>
Indi<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
On 8/31/2013 1:53 PM, <A
href="mailto:adriandavids404@gmail.com">adriandavids404@gmail.com</A>
wrote:<BR>>>>>>>> Hi Gold
Fingers,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> I
normally loop an item by setting repeat on with Control
plus<BR>>>>>>
R.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> I'm not
sure about loop recording as I haven't explored it
yet.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> I hope I
could have been of some
help.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>
Adrian<BR>>>>>>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom -
let your email find
you!<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>
-----Original Message-----<BR>>>>>>>> From: Goldfinga
Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>
Sender: "RWP" <<A
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:12:44<BR>>>>>>>> To: Reapers
Without Peepers<<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>
Reply-To: Reapers Without Peepers <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>>
Subject: [RWP]
Looping<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> How
does one go about properly looping a section? I have<BR>>>>>>
highlighted<BR>>>>>> the<BR>>>>>>> item that
I would like to loop, I also turn on loop but it still<BR>>>>>>
doesn't<BR>>>>>>> loop.<BR>>>>>>>> What
other steps are necessary to loop an item?<BR>>>>>>>> And
can you have one track looping while you record on
another?<BR>>>>>> Kind<BR>>>>>>
of<BR>>>>>>> like a drum
machine?<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>
GF<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> Check me
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