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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Indeed, most of what I get is the traditional
recording thing, but looping and looped based music has become more a presence
need in modern production environments,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I do get some electronic and rap stuff in here so
it's not wasted for sure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I also like to build instruments from time to
time,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>using the ever trusty sfz, such a sweet sample
creation format, and looping samples correctly is called for there
sometimes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It's lots of fun.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=scottchesworth@gmail.com href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">Scott
Chesworth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rwp@reaaccess.com
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:01
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RWP] Looping</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Oh I'm tinkering with this more in the name of cutting down the
amount<BR>of button bashing I have to do when I'm practicing bass,
because<BR>sometimes it's nice to groove along to actual drums instead of
a<BR>click, or to have a few chord sequences strung together and
force<BR>myself to cook up melodic lines that link progressions on the
spot.<BR>I've been building little structures by pasting for now, and
there's<BR>nothing wrong with that I guess, but more efficiency wouldn't be a
bad<BR>thing. Pretty rare that I get to do proper work on anything loopy
tbh.<BR>Might not always be the case though, so it'd be good to know I've
got<BR>a system down.<BR><BR>Scott<BR><BR>On 9/5/13, Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>
Yes Scott, consistancy and work flow matter very much in a production<BR>>
environment.<BR>><BR>> My hat's off to guys like you who've been able
to<BR>> make reaper work well enough to get real work done, I'm not brave
enough yet<BR>> to try and run a session with it.<BR>><BR>> But it's
a whizz bang post production audio editor for sure.<BR>><BR>> We'll keep
slogging away at it over here.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: Scott
Chesworth<BR>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:40 AM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[RWP] Looping<BR>><BR>><BR>> I just tried this by
importing drum loops from a couple of libraries<BR>> and
formats at random (yup, scientific methodology is alive and
well).<BR>> Even with files that have meta data imbedded, it
wasn't working for<BR>> me. Then I undid a few changes and hey
presto, all of a sudden it<BR>> started working! I exported a
homemade loop of some drums I tracked<BR>> earlier this week
with the project tempo imbedded, and got the same<BR>>
behaviour in that it works seemingly at random but there's always
some<BR>> level of undoing involved before it will. Can't get a
consistent<BR>> pattern yet.<BR>><BR>> Even
by Reaper's standards, this is getting proper weird! On the
one<BR>> hand, I guess it doesn't matter. On the other, it
matters to me very<BR>> very much
lol.<BR>><BR>> Scott<BR>><BR>> On 9/5/13,
TheOreoMonster <<A
href="mailto:monkeypusher69@gmail.com">monkeypusher69@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > The issue here isn't DAW versions,screen
reader or anything like that.<BR>> Its a<BR>> >
misunderstanding in the term loop. When DAW's refer to loop, its<BR>>
referring<BR>> > to a file that has meta data in it
identifying it to the DAW as a loop.<BR>> Just<BR>> > cuz
a piece of audio is 4 Bars and in sync with the project tempo,<BR>>
doesn't<BR>> > change the fact that it's a 4 bar piece of
audio that just happens to be<BR>> at<BR>> > the project
tempo. You will have to *mark* it as a loop in order for<BR>>
the<BR>> > changining the number of bars trick in its
properties to work. This and<BR>> the<BR>> > loop
item check box will not work unless you first *convert* that piece<BR>>
of<BR>> > audio to a*loop*. SInce reaper supports
Acidized wav or rex files<BR>> (both<BR>> > common 3rd
party loop standards) if you have access to a library of<BR>>
these<BR>> > files import one of these into a reaper project
and I bet the trick<BR>> Indie<BR>> > pointed out would
work. Reaper has a way to create loop files so that<BR>>
it<BR>> > will conform to tempo and this loop trick will
work. Unfortunately I<BR>> don't<BR>> > remember
how to do this off hand but the reaper manual explains this and<BR>>
its<BR>> > doable with a screen reader has i have done it in
the past on both mac<BR>> and<BR>> > pc versions of
Reaper. So yeah for just having apiece repeat a few<BR>>
times,<BR>> > copying and pasting may be quicker. The
advantage however of converting<BR>> it<BR>> > to a
loop first however, means you can change tempo or etc and the<BR>>
loops<BR>> > will playback at the new tempo. Great for
remixing or other production<BR>> work,<BR>> > or hell if
you want to see how a song will sound if the band played it<BR>>
a<BR>> > little faster or slower. Hope this helps and
i was clear enough. Any<BR>> > questions , let me
know.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Scott Chesworth <<A
href="mailto:scottchesworth@gmail.com">scottchesworth@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Hmmm, no
idea to be honest man. When I tried this workflow and it<BR>>
>> didn't work last time, I assumed it was because the source
media<BR>> >> wasn't recorded in that session so Reaper
didn't have so much of a<BR>> >> handle on it, but
thinking about it, that's probably a dumb thing to<BR>>
>> think. Anyway, I just tried it again to build a trailing vocal
delay,<BR>> >> and it didn't work here. I can tell that
Reaper is extending the item<BR>> >> length by the right
amount, but the audio itself isn't looping, so the<BR>>
>> extention of length is just silence. The loop source checkbox
is<BR>> >> checked in item
properties.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Anyone
know where we're going wrong with this?<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Scott<BR>>
>><BR>> >> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> >>> This was an imported file I had split
in to a few items.<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> Just for gins, I did some manual de-essing by splitting out
the<BR>> >>> sibalance<BR>>
>>> parts of words, and lowering item volumes,<BR>>
>>> on the offending parts, I had that handy so I selected one of
the<BR>> items<BR>> >>> with<BR>>
>>> control right or left arrows and pressed
enter<BR>> >>> and tabbed through item properties till
I got to the beat and time<BR>> >>>
settings<BR>> >>> and such, and<BR>>
>>> lengthened<BR>> >>> the time, and all it
did was cause the volumes of the items down<BR>> stream<BR>>
>>> from<BR>> >>> the item I was working on
to be messed up,<BR>> >>> like caused a jerk in the
amplitude,<BR>> >>> so something is definitely going
on, but no looping.<BR>> >>> /But when I copy an item
and paste it right next to it,<BR>> >>> it repeats or
loops just fine.<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> But it'd be nice to hear a loop so you can see if you got it
right,<BR>> like<BR>> >>> when processing a beat or
some such.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>
Any thoughts?<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>><BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>
>>> From: Scott Chesworth<BR>>
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:24
PM<BR>> >>> Subject: Re: [RWP]
Looping<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>><BR>> >>> Chris,<BR>>
>>><BR>> >>> Was the source material
you're trying to loop recorded in the same<BR>>
>>> Reaper session? I've got a feeling that makes a difference
to<BR>> whether<BR>> >>> Indie's workflow
will work.<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> Scott<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> On 9/1/13, Chris Belle <<A
href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">cb1963@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> >>>> I've seen this posted several
times but it never works that way for<BR>> me.<BR>>
>>>><BR>> >>>> When I change to beats
and make the number larger in an item on a<BR>>
>>>> track,<BR>> >>>
and<BR>> >>>> even nudged down it only seems to
change the envelope or volume of<BR>> the<BR>> >>>
items<BR>> >>>> after the item I changed, but not
make the item longer.<BR>> >>>><BR>>
>>>> I've tried this with ripple both on and
off.<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>>
The only way I can loop so far is copying an item and pasting it at<BR>>
the<BR>> >>> end<BR>> >>>>
the number of times I want, so it doubles.<BR>>
>>>><BR>> >>>> There's probably a
better way to do this.<BR>>
>>>><BR>> >>>><BR>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>
>>>> From: Indigo<BR>> >>>>
To: Reapers Without Peepers<BR>> >>>> Sent:
Sunday, September 01, 2013 2:03 AM<BR>> >>>>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Looping<BR>>
>>>><BR>> >>>><BR>>
>>>> You can loop an item in Reaper by first making sure the
item is<BR>> >>> exactly<BR>>
>>>> an even length, like 1, 2 or 4 measures, the most
common loop<BR>> >>> lengths;<BR>>
>>>> because if it is a fractional length; like 2.0.1
it will drift out<BR>> >>> of<BR>>
>>>> sync with the rest of the music as it
loops.<BR>> >>>> Okay, say you have a 2
measure item to loop, select the item with<BR>>
>>>> shift+A or ctrl+right arrow.<BR>>
>>>> Then go to Item Properties; select to display the item
length in<BR>> >>> beats.<BR>>
>>>> Then multiply the item's length by a multiple; which
will cause the<BR>> >>> item<BR>>
>>>> to loop that many times.<BR>>
>>>> For instance, if the selected item is 2 measures in
length,<BR>> multiply<BR>> >>>
its<BR>> >>>> length shown in the length
field by 10 and the item will loop 10<BR>> >>>
times.<BR>> >>>> You simply enter a new item
length in the length field; then tab<BR>> down<BR>>
>>> to<BR>> >>>> OK or whatever the
confirmation is; hit enter.<BR>> >>>> It will
occupy the new length on the time line, with the original
2<BR>> >>>> measure item repeated 10
times.<BR>> >>>> Turn ctrl+R off, you don't
need it to loop the item now.<BR>> >>>> The
standard method to loop an item for sighted users is to grab<BR>>
the<BR>> >>>> right end of the selected item
with the mouse and stretch its<BR>> length<BR>>
>>>> out; like stretching a rubber band; to the
desired amount.<BR>> >>>> This item length
multiplication method in Item Properties does<BR>> >>>
exactly<BR>> >>>> the same
thing.<BR>> >>>> Indi<BR>>
>>>><BR>> >>>><BR>>
>>>> On 8/31/2013 1:53 PM, <A
href="mailto:adriandavids404@gmail.com">adriandavids404@gmail.com</A>
wrote:<BR>> >>>>> Hi Gold
Fingers,<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> I normally loop an item by setting repeat on with Control
plus R.<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> I'm not sure about loop recording as I haven't explored
it yet.<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> I hope I could have been of some
help.<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> Adrian<BR>> >>>>> Sent via
my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!<BR>>
>>>>><BR>> >>>>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> >>>>> From: Goldfinga
Productions <<A
href="mailto:goldfingas@gmail.com">goldfingas@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>> Sender: "RWP" <<A
href="mailto:rwp-bounces@reaaccess.com">rwp-bounces@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:12:44<BR>>
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers<<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>> Reply-To: Reapers Without Peepers <<A
href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</A>><BR>>
>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Looping<BR>>
>>>>><BR>> >>>>> How does one go
about properly looping a section? I have<BR>>
highlighted<BR>> >>> the<BR>>
>>>> item that I would like to loop, I also turn on loop but it
still<BR>> >>> doesn't<BR>>
>>>> loop.<BR>> >>>>> What other
steps are necessary to loop an item?<BR>> >>>>>
And can you have one track looping while you record on another?<BR>>
Kind<BR>> >>> of<BR>> >>>>
like a drum machine?<BR>>
>>>>><BR>>
>>>>><BR>> >>>>>
GF<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>> Check me out on twitter<BR>>
>>>>> <A
href="http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas">http://www.twitter.com/goldfingas</A><BR>>
>>>>><BR>>
>>>>><BR>>
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