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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for all these details Chris.
I've copied this email and put in my notes for working on Poise. <br>
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<br>
<font size="2" face="Arial">> .ini files we can edit are good
too.</font><br>
<br>
How about XML files? Poise uses XML for saving patch data. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
Shannon<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/07/2013 6:38 PM, Chris Belle wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Ok, here's what I know generally
about accessibility issues which may or may not help you.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">For windows, if standard controls
are used, thken about anything can be made accessible,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">but since many of these cross
platform tools like dot net framework and such are used to
build these things, that is done primarily with pixels, and
that's not so accessible.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So we end up using
screen-scraping tools which build second menus and route the
mouse for us to click on things or lock on knobs to make
things go.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">If we're lucky, then clicking on
a knob will give keyboard access to the knob, and we can turn
it that way.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Such as what happens with
sessiondrummer3.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Tooltips that bring up text are
good, our screen-readers can deal with that pretty well, but
in general, the more keyboard access the better.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">If one can pull down menus from a
keyboard, or even if we do have to do some mouse clicks, if we
can run the mouse around the screen and text speaks, then that
is good.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">.ini files we can edit are good
too.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Also giving midi cc access is
good, and documentation in plain text or rtf, anything but
that blasted pdf format,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">blind folks don't like pdf in
general 'grin'.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Also, many vst's expose
automatable parameters.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">in reaper and in sonar in the
inspector pane, and the synth rack,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">and the fx view in reaper where
we can adjust values for things.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So allowing that to happen is
great.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Many plug-ins which are only
pixels in the native ui offer enough access with automatible
parms that we can use them even if they aren't scripted for.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Ok, there's a guy on here Roy,
who you probably know of already, he's a bit more of a
programmer than I am, well, a lot more,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">and he can talk turkey with you.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">So can Jim the snowman, who's the
big daddy</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">jaws dude who made hsc for us,
the magic tool that let's jaws users build their own access
for difficult plugs.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">He's also started using hsc,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">which is a more generic helper
app which isn't screen-reader dependant so everyone can come
to the party as it were.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Ok, I've blathered on enough for
now.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Time to dive in to pois.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 09,
2013 1:12 AM</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Chris,<br>
<br>
Poise is a drum sampler VST for Windows. Details can be seen
here <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.onesmallclue.com">www.onesmallclue.com</a><br>
<br>
Any help will be appreciated. I'm entirely new to building
software with accessibility in mind. Google has provided a few
leads which I'm following up now. It would be great to have
someone for advice with the finer details.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Shannon<br>
<br>
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On 9/07/2013 3:20 PM, Chris Belle wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi Shannon, Chris Belle here.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I kind of missed this whole
bois thing, but I am an advanced user, using multiple
screen-readers, and have done a bit of access work myself
with third party utils</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">like ahk and hsc, though you
couldn't put me in the programming arena, not quite there
yet.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Give me your website and I'll
get educated, and help if I can.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">It's sure nice to have folks
like you in our corner.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 08,
2013 9:57 PM</div>
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Hello list,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the welcome Goldfinga,<br>
<br>
As Goldfinga says I've been working on Poise to improve it's
<br>
accessibility. I've made a couple small changes already
based on couple <br>
suggestions. At the moment I'm working on labeling the
graphics so the <br>
GUI can be used with screen readers.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Shannon<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.onesmallclue.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.onesmallclue.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:shannon@onesmallclue.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">shannon@onesmallclue.com</a><br>
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On 8/07/2013 10:50 PM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:<br>
> We've made things easier. We will just use this list.
Welcome Shannon… Now, where are the programmers? LOL<br>
><br>
> GF<br>
><br>
><br>
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> On Jul 8, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Kevin Reeves <<a
href="mailto:lists@kevinreeves.net" moz-do-not-send="true">lists@kevinreeves.net</a>>
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>> Yeah. Let's do it.<br>
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>> Will you use something like Google Groups or
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>> Kevin<br>
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