<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><base href="x-msg://2190/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">have you guys tried the other windows house keeping things as well? Killing all the unneeded things that start up and sit in ram when windows starts. Making sure nothing else is running besides reaper and screen reader? Bumping up reaper's priority in the process view of task manager? Threr are lots of articles out there of optimizing a PC for audio recording, may be oath a read. But like everyone here says, realtek and asio isn't the best place to start from, so some of these may help even if you are running better hardware.<br><div><div>On May 27, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Colin McDonald <<a href="mailto:blulemon@telus.net">blulemon@telus.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Further to this, I found I can lengthen the latency as much as I want, through the recording and playback latency controls. but it won't change below a certain offset number. So if I put a big number in there, I can increase the latency, but less than say 200MS it doesn't seem to change at all. So my conclusion is that it's in the hardware and or processing more than anything else.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">It's just odd that I can get that latency right down to nothing in audacity by using a negative value in the record/play offset fields.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Trust me, I've spent hours trying to tweak things and I can get it to have a slightly lesser delay time, but still very large compared to how it should be.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">The best way I've found to measure latency is to run a sound source, like a drum machine, into the sound card, then use the record monitor (F8) set to normal I think, and you can hear the huge latency between the signal playing through the sound card, and reaper playing it through the record monitor.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I do it this way because that is how one would organize things during a multi-track over dub recording.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">It is possible I am missing something, but like I said, I've done extensive tests to get rid of that latency and it just will not reduce to less than a certain amount.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Regards</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Colin</font></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="blulemon@telus.net" href="mailto:blulemon@telus.net">Colin McDonald</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@reaaccess.com" href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 27, 2013 7:32 PM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RWP] I'm having trouble with latency and reaper</div><div><br></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">did that...tried lots of different rates and it does minimize it a bit, but still it's a good 200MS.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">shrug, it's the sound card and processing power of the machine.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Regards</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Colin</font></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="Snowman@SnowmanRadio.com" href="mailto:Snowman@SnowmanRadio.com">Jim Snowbarger</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@reaaccess.com" href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 27, 2013 7:26 PM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RWP] I'm having trouble with latency and reaper</div><div><br></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Look at buffering time, both on play back and recording, and shrink those down to the lowest level that still provides reliable performance. That will help a lot.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="blulemon@telus.net" href="mailto:blulemon@telus.net">Colin McDonald</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@reaaccess.com" href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 27, 2013 3:34 PM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RWP] I'm having trouble with latency and reaper</div><div><br></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">at least in audacity you could taylor the offset so that you ended up with very little latency...reaper doesn't appear to have anything that will do that.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I've tried everything in reaper to offset the latency that I could kill with audacity on the same machines using the same sound cards.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Asio, WDM and direct sound and the rest don't seem to make a whole lot of difference on my stuff...I'm still stuck with probably a 2 or 300MS latency issue.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">regards</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Colin</font></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="cb1963@sbcglobal.net" href="mailto:cb1963@sbcglobal.net">Chris Belle</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@reaaccess.com" href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">Reapers Without Peepers</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 27, 2013 11:33 AM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RWP] I'm having trouble with latency and reaper</div><div><br></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">What are you using for an interface?</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">If your not using a professional audio device, or aren't in asio or wdm mode, then your timing could be dodgy.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">It's the same problem with audacity a nice multi-tracker that's free but because it doesn't support accepted low latency high precission standards for recording, you have to set an off-set which will vary with each sound card, and even then might not work quite right.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">depending on what mode you are in.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div> </div><div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="klcunningham6@gmail.com" href="mailto:klcunningham6@gmail.com">kyle</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rwp@reaaccess.com" href="mailto:rwp@reaaccess.com">rwp@reaaccess.com</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 27, 2013 7:24 AM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[RWP] I'm having trouble with latency and reaper</div><div><br></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi,</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I have a problem with reaper. At least, i think its a problem with reaper. I can record all my tracks, and then go back to listen to them. for example, a drum track and piano track, and they are out of time. I know i've recorded them in time, and its starting to get a little old using wav files and mixing them down.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Any help would be appriciated.</font></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>RWP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</a><br><a href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</a><br></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>RWP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</a><br><a href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</a><br></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>RWP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</a><br><a href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</a><br></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>RWP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</a><br><a href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</a><br></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>_______________________________________________<br>RWP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</a><br><a href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</a><br></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br>RWP mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RWP@reaaccess.com">RWP@reaaccess.com</a><br><a href="http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com">http://reaaccess.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp_reaaccess.com</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>