[Rwp] Help with noise removal

Mon May 23 19:20:15 EDT 2016

Noise removal, OK. What about auto-fading in and out around segments 
where audio is removed? I found that aspect alone took up a whole lot of 
time in my edits when I used Audacity.

Apologies, I know this is a bit tangential to Reaper, but this thread 
kind of turned into one about me using the wrong tool for this job. And 
that may very well be true, but I thought I'd done a reasonable amount 
of due diligence and just wanted to know how to accessibly follow some 
instructions I found.

Thanks.
On 05/23/2016 05:55 PM, David Engebretson Jr wrote:
> I'm using Audacity 2.1.2, JAWS 17, and the latest Audacity scripts 
> from Gary Campbell.  It's quite straight forward to do noise removal.
>
> 1. select noise profile
> 2. select track to remove noise profile from
> 3. repeat until happy.
>
> Happiness can be difficult to find when learning curves are involved. 
> There's lots of willing folks ready to help on the Audacity list.  Or, 
> if you prefer, you can find me as David on VORail and/or my email addy 
> is: d.engebretson at comcast.net
>
> Peace,
> d
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Nolan Darilek
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:30 PM
> To: rwp at bluegrasspals.com
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Help with noise removal
>
> Thanks. My understanding, based on an albeit limited amount of research,
> was that Reaper was better than Audacity for editing podcasts and
> podcast-like audio. In particular, I like that it auto fades in and out
> audio around deletions, something that took up lots of time with
> Audacity. Also, it is claimed that ReaFIR's noise removal algorithm is
> better than that of Audacity. I'm also not sure if Audacity's
> accessibility has improved over the last few years, but the last time I
> attempted to use it I didn't get spoken feedback for such useful but
> basic features as selecting sections of audio on a track. I could select
> a track, but got no spoken feedback when attempting to remove a piece of
> audio to strike out a flubbed sentence.
>
>
> So, unless Audacity access has improved, or a plugin will auto-fade
> audio around deletion points, I think Audacity will be more painful to
> use than would Reaper. I did some research regarding using it for
> podcast production and it seemed like a workable and better Audacity
> alternative. Did I just not do enough research?
>
>
>
> On 05/23/2016 04:55 PM, Alan wrote:
>> Hi there:
>> In my opinion, perhaps you are not using the most useful tool for 
>> your needs. It is not related to your experience or skill level at 
>> all, but editing audio in reaper is like cooking a burger using a 
>> laser gun. it is doable, but, well, if audacity seems hard to handle 
>> for you, definitely reaper will be almost the same. Reaper"s 
>> philosofy is oriented for music production, I recomend you to take 
>> another look at audacity (it is a great software and prety 
>> accessible), goldwave, or soundforge, if you want to simply edit audio.
>> Talking about noise reduction, I never had success doing it in 
>> reaper, someone else could help you if possible; anyways, it is prety 
>> doable and easy in audacity, much easier, I am sure.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>> Y
>>
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>>> El 23 may 2016, a las 19:19, Nolan Darilek <nolan at thewordnerd.info> 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Hey all. New to Reaper and decided to give it a shot after fighting 
>>> with Audacity for years and feeling like it makes my light audio 
>>> editing a pain. I've been reading lots, and while there's plenty of 
>>> information out there, it seems to be presented across several 
>>> different sources and makes getting up and running challenging. So 
>>> apologies if there are basic answers to my questions which I just 
>>> haven't found.
>>>
>>> My setup is Reaper 5.20 with the Osara plugin running under NVDA. I 
>>> have a track recorded on a somewhat noisy digital recorder, so my 
>>> first task is removing noise.
>>>
>>> I've found this guide:
>>>
>>> http://www.homebrewaudio.com/reafir-madness-hidden-noise-reduction-tool-in-reaper/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> To make my task easier, I recorded about 30 seconds of ambient noise 
>>> on my recorder before my voice begins. I set the loop start/end 
>>> points, enabled repeat, ensured that the track contains only noise. 
>>> Then I followed these instructions right up to the point where I'm 
>>> told to close the effects window, which I can't seem to do. What I 
>>> do is enable the Create Noise Profile checkbox and play my noise, 
>>> but nothing I do ever gets it removed.
>>>
>>> Also, this article seems to imply that eventually you'll hear 
>>> silence, because the noise filter will remove the noise from the 
>>> repeated track. I never hear silence. Instead, I hear my noisy loop 
>>> repeated again and again. Additionally, the Osara commands 
>>> shift/control-shift-p claim there are no effects on the selected 
>>> tracks. This leads me to believe that I'm just editing effect 
>>> parameters, and there's some enable/persist step obvious in the UI 
>>> but not apparent to accessibility. I think there's a bit in the 
>>> performance settings dialog where it shows effect performance, but I 
>>> never see the values climb above 0.
>>>
>>> What am I missing? Trying to be patient but this is enormously 
>>> frustrating. I'm a software developer with lots of experience, and 
>>> Reaper shouldn't be *this* confusing. :) Audio editing sure, but I 
>>> can't even apply an effect.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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