[Rwp] Help with noise removal

David Engebretson Jr d.engebretson at comcast.net
Mon May 23 18:55:41 EDT 2016


I'm using Audacity 2.1.2, JAWS 17, and the latest Audacity scripts from Gary 
Campbell.  It's quite straight forward to do noise removal.

1. select noise profile
2. select track to remove noise profile from
3. repeat until happy.

Happiness can be difficult to find when learning curves are involved. 
There's lots of willing folks ready to help on the Audacity list.  Or, if 
you prefer, you can find me as David on VORail and/or my email addy is: 
d.engebretson at comcast.net

Peace,
d


-----Original Message----- 
From: Nolan Darilek
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:30 PM
To: rwp at bluegrasspals.com
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Help with noise removal

Thanks. My understanding, based on an albeit limited amount of research,
was that Reaper was better than Audacity for editing podcasts and
podcast-like audio. In particular, I like that it auto fades in and out
audio around deletions, something that took up lots of time with
Audacity. Also, it is claimed that ReaFIR's noise removal algorithm is
better than that of Audacity. I'm also not sure if Audacity's
accessibility has improved over the last few years, but the last time I
attempted to use it I didn't get spoken feedback for such useful but
basic features as selecting sections of audio on a track. I could select
a track, but got no spoken feedback when attempting to remove a piece of
audio to strike out a flubbed sentence.


So, unless Audacity access has improved, or a plugin will auto-fade
audio around deletion points, I think Audacity will be more painful to
use than would Reaper. I did some research regarding using it for
podcast production and it seemed like a workable and better Audacity
alternative. Did I just not do enough research?



On 05/23/2016 04:55 PM, Alan wrote:
> Hi there:
> In my opinion, perhaps you are not using the most useful tool for your 
> needs. It is not related to your experience or skill level at all, but 
> editing audio in reaper is like cooking a burger using a laser gun. it is 
> doable, but, well, if audacity seems hard to handle for you, definitely 
> reaper will be almost the same. Reaper"s philosofy is oriented for music 
> production, I recomend you to take another look at audacity (it is a great 
> software and prety accessible), goldwave, or soundforge, if you want to 
> simply edit audio.
> Talking about noise reduction, I never had success doing it in reaper, 
> someone else could help you if possible; anyways, it is prety doable and 
> easy in audacity, much easier, I am sure.
>
> Hope this helps!
> Y
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
>> El 23 may 2016, a las 19:19, Nolan Darilek <nolan at thewordnerd.info> 
>> escribió:
>>
>> Hey all. New to Reaper and decided to give it a shot after fighting with 
>> Audacity for years and feeling like it makes my light audio editing a 
>> pain. I've been reading lots, and while there's plenty of information out 
>> there, it seems to be presented across several different sources and 
>> makes getting up and running challenging. So apologies if there are basic 
>> answers to my questions which I just haven't found.
>>
>> My setup is Reaper 5.20 with the Osara plugin running under NVDA. I have 
>> a track recorded on a somewhat noisy digital recorder, so my first task 
>> is removing noise.
>>
>> I've found this guide:
>>
>> http://www.homebrewaudio.com/reafir-madness-hidden-noise-reduction-tool-in-reaper/
>>
>> To make my task easier, I recorded about 30 seconds of ambient noise on 
>> my recorder before my voice begins. I set the loop start/end points, 
>> enabled repeat, ensured that the track contains only noise. Then I 
>> followed these instructions right up to the point where I'm told to close 
>> the effects window, which I can't seem to do. What I do is enable the 
>> Create Noise Profile checkbox and play my noise, but nothing I do ever 
>> gets it removed.
>>
>> Also, this article seems to imply that eventually you'll hear silence, 
>> because the noise filter will remove the noise from the repeated track. I 
>> never hear silence. Instead, I hear my noisy loop repeated again and 
>> again. Additionally, the Osara commands shift/control-shift-p claim there 
>> are no effects on the selected tracks. This leads me to believe that I'm 
>> just editing effect parameters, and there's some enable/persist step 
>> obvious in the UI but not apparent to accessibility. I think there's a 
>> bit in the performance settings dialog where it shows effect performance, 
>> but I never see the values climb above 0.
>>
>> What am I missing? Trying to be patient but this is enormously 
>> frustrating. I'm a software developer with lots of experience, and Reaper 
>> shouldn't be *this* confusing. :) Audio editing sure, but I can't even 
>> apply an effect.
>>
>> Thanks.
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