[Rwp] Please read, A suggestion for the next release of Osara, what does the list think?

Juan Pablo Bello juanpisjaws at gmail.com
Mon Mar 28 17:40:20 EDT 2016


I would agree on the midi note one, but then again you can mute NVDA .
and usually, you should have separate audio outputs for anything. I
usually work with my korg as the midi controller or the midi device,
so that does not even affect me in the slightest.

2016-03-28 16:16 GMT-05:00, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org>:
> The idea of complete control over every single message is impossible, as
> well as making configuration rather complex and thus unintuitive. You
> mention a nice edit field instead of check boxes, but I don't think
> you've considered how this would really work if it were implemented.
> What would you put in this field? How would you customise every single
> message in a single field?
>
> To address the three specific examples you provided:
> 1. Setting start and end of selection: I added this because it was
> specifically requested. I also don't follow why hearing this is a big
> deal. You're not having to wait to hear important information (unlike,
> say, "metronome on"), so if you don't want to hear it, why not just
> ignore it?
> 2. Notes in MIDI editor: I agree it'd make sense to add a check box to
> silence these. Again, the correct place for such requests is GitHub.
> 3. Metronome on/off: It's true that you have to wait to hear "metronome"
> before you hear the state. Again, I'm not sure how this really affects
> workflow; it's three extra syllables and most advanced users either know
> what state the metronome is in (because they can hear it ticking) or
> have speech set fast enough that three extra syllables isn't going to
> matter. That said, I guess I could consider changing this.
>
> Jamie
>
> On 23/03/2016 9:55 AM, Jes wrote:
>> Although I love Osara and the strides Jamie has made in improving
>> access to Reaper, I think Osara could really be improved if users
>> could have complete control over what Osara speaks and when it speaks it.
>> For instance, right now in the Osara configuration, there are only
>> three checkboxes - Report fx when moving to tracks, report item
>> position when scrubbing, and report the transport state play, record,
>> etc. However, I am getting extrainious speech that I could do without,
>> such as being told "Selection start, selection end" when hitting
>> alt+shift+left and right brackets. While this info may be extremely
>> helpful for newbies to Reaper and Osara, I find it a nucence hearing
>> that I have started or ended a selection, especially because those
>> keys must be deliberately pressed. Also, I would rather not hear the
>> note of every single midi note or event as I am arrowing up and down
>> in the midi event editor. As a pianist, I can tell what note is what
>> simply by listening to it and making the needed changes, without Osara
>> babbling at me at the same time I am trying to work. The only way to
>> shut Osara up is to mute NVDA's speech completely, then turn it back
>> on when I need speech back.
>> Any ideas on how this could be added? I think it would be better to
>> put a nice edit field in the Osara config in case we, the users want
>> to add custom entries to make Osara be quiet, rather than having to
>> create a checkbox for every single prompt Osara speaks. Less work for
>> Jamie, and more flexible for users. Maybe I want to just hear the
>> word, "on, off", when I hit control shift M to turn the metronome on
>> or off. I already know that I'm dealing with the metronome, I just
>> might want a single word telling me its state.
>> Sorry for such a long email but this issue really, really needs to be
>> resolved for the advanced Reaperian. And let's not forget, that
>> beginning users will become advanced at some point if they stick with
>> Reaper long enough.
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