[Rwp] How to copy and paste time based selection?

Sat Mar 26 12:53:44 EDT 2016

Yep, it can be a real puzzle sometimes why it won't work like you think 
it should.
usually get it figured out but it's not always a straight shot.

On 3/26/2016 12:47 AM, David Eagle via RWP wrote:
> The problem can sometimes arise when you have different numbers of
> items on different tracks. So if you make a time selection and you
> want to copy audio from track one two and three, but track one has
> three items, track two has 6, and track three has twelve, you can get
> into a lot of trouble. Using the 'copy selected area of items”
> sometimes works, but seemingly not always. I'm getting there with it
> though, but it's just not as simple as Sonar when it comes to copying
> and pasting, or so I've found anyway.
>
> On 25/03/2016, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Right, of course one can cobble together this sort of work flow. but I
>> envission this hanging up a lot of new comers to reaper,
>> but as was  said,
>> and I agree, when you take on reaper, you take on the learning curve,
>> and the pros and cons of such a flexible DAW.
>> The bottom line point I think that all this has made is that reaper
>> is pretty much made for item based editing.
>>
>>
>> On 3/23/2016 7:37 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>> There is a split at selection action. And also … custom actions. If you
>>> perform the same steps frequently enough make a custom action.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yes, I used that as well, but I still had to split items if I wanted to
>>>> paste things in to the project and have other stuff move over.
>>>> With strictly time based editing, ripple did not work.
>>>> So if you want to build a project
>>>> by copying bits as you go, then it will take several more steps.
>>>> Cumbersome but doable.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/23/2016 2:12 AM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>> well, the alt shift I command Works flawlessly to me . That's the
>>>>> select all items on selected tracks on time selection on.... oh,
>>>>> sorry. that one. Its just that extra step right before pressing
>>>>> control C
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-03-23 1:21 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>> Oh tell me about it, that sound on sound blend and easy copying of
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>> was a sonar sweet spot.
>>>>>> I realize reaper's take and item system is more flexible in some ways,
>>>>>> but also more confusing and more steps to get an easy task done.
>>>>>> usually reaper's context ssensitive tendencies work out in ;your favor,
>>>>>> but when it comes to copying stuff, it seems to get retarded 'grin';.
>>>>>> the only way I made it work was to do a combination of splitting items,
>>>>>> as well as time selection when I wanted to say copying a mesure of
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>> on all tracks to a place further down stream, also keeping the audio
>>>>>> already there.
>>>>>> Ripple editing in other words.
>>>>>> In the mean time,
>>>>>> even though I do understand the basic concepts  of takes,
>>>>>> and items, when doing multiple bits of audio in the same time
>>>>>> location,k
>>>>>> it can be very confusing to have multiple items and takes going on not
>>>>>> always in strict linear fashion and to figure out what's overlapping
>>>>>> what, and what's in front of or behind what.
>>>>>> So I have been using track folders, which I actually like in reaper,
>>>>>> better than sonar,
>>>>>> to separate out different parts of audio I want to keep together,
>>>>>> and share resources.
>>>>>> I see now why a lot of old school reaper guys liked these track
>>>>>> folders.
>>>>>> yes, I can turn on the mix behavior to always mix items and play them
>>>>>> like sonar does, but it still get's messy,
>>>>>> because each time you make a new recording, you get a new item,
>>>>>> you have actions to slice your pie anyway you want it, one item with
>>>>>> multiple takes,
>>>>>> or to different tracks, but having things spread out on different
>>>>>> tracks
>>>>>> so you can look at them and manipulate then with a same set of controls
>>>>>> is what I have done for ever,
>>>>>> that's the way i did comps in sonar,
>>>>>> so since we can have as many tracks as we want and still folder them
>>>>>> down to
>>>>>> make them easily navigatable,
>>>>>> then this is a nice work flow.
>>>>>> The power of reaper is that you can work a lot of different ways, so i
>>>>>> think while I'm getting used to reaper's crazy take system,
>>>>>> I'll fall back on this track folder method and put everything
>>>>>> on it's own track, where I can readily see it nad edit it on a linear
>>>>>> time line.
>>>>>> I have also discovered that blending and over-dubbing midi works out
>>>>>> nicely this way as well,
>>>>>> as I often want to play separate parts of midi but on the same midi
>>>>>> channel or on the same track, but if you try and record another
>>>>>> something on a midi track in reaper, it's default behavior is to
>>>>>> over-write it.
>>>>>> So, fun times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/22/2016 7:06 PM, David Eagle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> I completely agree that copying and pasting could be much more
>>>>>>> intuitive with Reaper. It would be great if there was just a way of
>>>>>>> selecting audio, selecting tracks, then copying the selected audio on
>>>>>>> the selected tracks and pasting it where you wanted. It's the one
>>>>>>> thing I miss from Sonar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/03/2016, Juan Pablo Bello <juanpisjaws at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> when that happens make sure that you set "items always mix " on the
>>>>>>>> project settings or at least for adjacent ones, and set their lengths
>>>>>>>> to something closer to what you want on the item properties dialog.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2016-03-22 0:33 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>>>>> Just tried it on a very simple one item short piece of audio and all
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> did was chop off the end of the audio to the length of the time
>>>>>>>>> selection I set.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So unless I'm just really thick this morning, I don't see how that
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>> To me, fit to time means snugging audio down to fit in a smaller or
>>>>>>>>> larger space.
>>>>>>>>> I haven't tried the stretch one yet,
>>>>>>>>> but the one that loops if necessary just chopped off the end of my
>>>>>>>>> audio.
>>>>>>>>> Oh well, it was round about, but I got it to work another way
>>>>>>>>> anyhow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2016 11:49 PM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> that is exactly why i use the fit items to time selection, looping
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> needed action
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-21 22:54 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>> This is one area where reaper is totally not intuitive.
>>>>>>>>>>> I never got it to work with using strictly time selection.
>>>>>>>>>>> I did get a copy and paste to work using a combination of
>>>>>>>>>>> splitting
>>>>>>>>>>> items and then time base as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I did it strictly on time based selection it sort of worked
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> over-wrote stuff I wanted to push over, even when ripple editing
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/2016 3:58 PM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I htink reaper's paradigm is a Little different. The following
>>>>>>>>>>>> commands should be helpful
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> copy selected area of items
>>>>>>>>>>>> cut selected area of items
>>>>>>>>>>>> fit items to time selection, looping if needed (I have it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>>>>>>> H )
>>>>>>>>>>>> fit items to time selection, stretching if needed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the nice thing about the third one especially is that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>> mark
>>>>>>>>>>>> your selection, then use that command and it will copy paste for
>>>>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and assuming that you have say, a break on beat 2 of bar 34, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop right there. so it does even the edit autoMagically for you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a single keystroke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To do this on all tracks you set your time selection, then select
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks , then perform that command and I think it should work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> also, try: 1. Setting your time selection, 2. selecting all
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>> control+c, 4. Pressing escape to clear your time selection (I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the step you might be missing as reaper does not clear
>>>>>>>>>>>> selection when you cut copy or paste), 5. navigating to bar 34,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.
>>>>>>>>>>>> pasting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-15 14:41 GMT-05:00, Alan <alan.jdv at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling so stupid right now, after more than 30 minutes of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> testing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I cannot copy, for example, from bar 2 to bar 34 of a track to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paste
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to copy from 2 to 34 of all tracks to duplicate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> length
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the recording, but I just cannot figure out how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper is copying my seven tracks all the time and pasting new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does it work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
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