[Rwp] How to copy and paste time based selection?

David Eagle onlineeagle at googlemail.com
Sat Mar 26 01:47:52 EDT 2016


The problem can sometimes arise when you have different numbers of
items on different tracks. So if you make a time selection and you
want to copy audio from track one two and three, but track one has
three items, track two has 6, and track three has twelve, you can get
into a lot of trouble. Using the 'copy selected area of items”
sometimes works, but seemingly not always. I'm getting there with it
though, but it's just not as simple as Sonar when it comes to copying
and pasting, or so I've found anyway.

On 25/03/2016, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Right, of course one can cobble together this sort of work flow. but I
> envission this hanging up a lot of new comers to reaper,
> but as was  said,
> and I agree, when you take on reaper, you take on the learning curve,
> and the pros and cons of such a flexible DAW.
> The bottom line point I think that all this has made is that reaper
> is pretty much made for item based editing.
>
>
> On 3/23/2016 7:37 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>> There is a split at selection action. And also … custom actions. If you
>> perform the same steps frequently enough make a custom action.
>>
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes, I used that as well, but I still had to split items if I wanted to
>>> paste things in to the project and have other stuff move over.
>>> With strictly time based editing, ripple did not work.
>>> So if you want to build a project
>>> by copying bits as you go, then it will take several more steps.
>>> Cumbersome but doable.
>>>
>>> On 3/23/2016 2:12 AM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>> well, the alt shift I command Works flawlessly to me . That's the
>>>> select all items on selected tracks on time selection on.... oh,
>>>> sorry. that one. Its just that extra step right before pressing
>>>> control C
>>>>
>>>> 2016-03-23 1:21 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>> Oh tell me about it, that sound on sound blend and easy copying of
>>>>> audio
>>>>> was a sonar sweet spot.
>>>>> I realize reaper's take and item system is more flexible in some ways,
>>>>> but also more confusing and more steps to get an easy task done.
>>>>> usually reaper's context ssensitive tendencies work out in ;your favor,
>>>>> but when it comes to copying stuff, it seems to get retarded 'grin';.
>>>>> the only way I made it work was to do a combination of splitting items,
>>>>> as well as time selection when I wanted to say copying a mesure of
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> on all tracks to a place further down stream, also keeping the audio
>>>>> already there.
>>>>> Ripple editing in other words.
>>>>> In the mean time,
>>>>> even though I do understand the basic concepts  of takes,
>>>>> and items, when doing multiple bits of audio in the same time
>>>>> location,k
>>>>> it can be very confusing to have multiple items and takes going on not
>>>>> always in strict linear fashion and to figure out what's overlapping
>>>>> what, and what's in front of or behind what.
>>>>> So I have been using track folders, which I actually like in reaper,
>>>>> better than sonar,
>>>>> to separate out different parts of audio I want to keep together,
>>>>> and share resources.
>>>>> I see now why a lot of old school reaper guys liked these track
>>>>> folders.
>>>>> yes, I can turn on the mix behavior to always mix items and play them
>>>>> like sonar does, but it still get's messy,
>>>>> because each time you make a new recording, you get a new item,
>>>>> you have actions to slice your pie anyway you want it, one item with
>>>>> multiple takes,
>>>>> or to different tracks, but having things spread out on different
>>>>> tracks
>>>>> so you can look at them and manipulate then with a same set of controls
>>>>> is what I have done for ever,
>>>>> that's the way i did comps in sonar,
>>>>> so since we can have as many tracks as we want and still folder them
>>>>> down to
>>>>> make them easily navigatable,
>>>>> then this is a nice work flow.
>>>>> The power of reaper is that you can work a lot of different ways, so i
>>>>> think while I'm getting used to reaper's crazy take system,
>>>>> I'll fall back on this track folder method and put everything
>>>>> on it's own track, where I can readily see it nad edit it on a linear
>>>>> time line.
>>>>> I have also discovered that blending and over-dubbing midi works out
>>>>> nicely this way as well,
>>>>> as I often want to play separate parts of midi but on the same midi
>>>>> channel or on the same track, but if you try and record another
>>>>> something on a midi track in reaper, it's default behavior is to
>>>>> over-write it.
>>>>> So, fun times.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/22/2016 7:06 PM, David Eagle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> I completely agree that copying and pasting could be much more
>>>>>> intuitive with Reaper. It would be great if there was just a way of
>>>>>> selecting audio, selecting tracks, then copying the selected audio on
>>>>>> the selected tracks and pasting it where you wanted. It's the one
>>>>>> thing I miss from Sonar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/03/2016, Juan Pablo Bello <juanpisjaws at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> when that happens make sure that you set "items always mix " on the
>>>>>>> project settings or at least for adjacent ones, and set their lengths
>>>>>>> to something closer to what you want on the item properties dialog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-03-22 0:33 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>>>> Just tried it on a very simple one item short piece of audio and all
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> did was chop off the end of the audio to the length of the time
>>>>>>>> selection I set.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So unless I'm just really thick this morning, I don't see how that
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>> To me, fit to time means snugging audio down to fit in a smaller or
>>>>>>>> larger space.
>>>>>>>> I haven't tried the stretch one yet,
>>>>>>>> but the one that loops if necessary just chopped off the end of my
>>>>>>>> audio.
>>>>>>>> Oh well, it was round about, but I got it to work another way
>>>>>>>> anyhow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2016 11:49 PM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>>>>> that is exactly why i use the fit items to time selection, looping
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> needed action
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-21 22:54 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> This is one area where reaper is totally not intuitive.
>>>>>>>>>> I never got it to work with using strictly time selection.
>>>>>>>>>> I did get a copy and paste to work using a combination of
>>>>>>>>>> splitting
>>>>>>>>>> items and then time base as well.
>>>>>>>>>> When I did it strictly on time based selection it sort of worked
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> over-wrote stuff I wanted to push over, even when ripple editing
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/2016 3:58 PM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I htink reaper's paradigm is a Little different. The following
>>>>>>>>>>> commands should be helpful
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> copy selected area of items
>>>>>>>>>>> cut selected area of items
>>>>>>>>>>> fit items to time selection, looping if needed (I have it to
>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>>>>>> H )
>>>>>>>>>>> fit items to time selection, stretching if needed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the nice thing about the third one especially is that you can
>>>>>>>>>>> mark
>>>>>>>>>>> your selection, then use that command and it will copy paste for
>>>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>>>> and assuming that you have say, a break on beat 2 of bar 34, it
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> stop right there. so it does even the edit autoMagically for you,
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> in a single keystroke.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To do this on all tracks you set your time selection, then select
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> tracks , then perform that command and I think it should work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> also, try: 1. Setting your time selection, 2. selecting all
>>>>>>>>>>> tracks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>>>>> control+c, 4. Pressing escape to clear your time selection (I
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> this is the step you might be missing as reaper does not clear
>>>>>>>>>>> selection when you cut copy or paste), 5. navigating to bar 34,
>>>>>>>>>>> 6.
>>>>>>>>>>> pasting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-15 14:41 GMT-05:00, Alan <alan.jdv at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling so stupid right now, after more than 30 minutes of
>>>>>>>>>>>> testing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I cannot copy, for example, from bar 2 to bar 34 of a track to
>>>>>>>>>>>> paste
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to copy from 2 to 34 of all tracks to duplicate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> length
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the recording, but I just cannot figure out how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper is copying my seven tracks all the time and pasting new
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does it work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
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