[Rwp] new to reaper - where to get started?

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Sun Mar 20 14:28:32 EDT 2016


hey, you should insert that midi control plug it helpswith things like that.


On 3/20/2016 12:24 PM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
> hi, for midi... its a bit more confusing since there is that grid
> concept but I have been successful at editing midi nonetheless. Reaper
> Works really well with midi keyboards, and if you do have an audio
> interface you get really little or almost no latency with virtual
> instruments. THe interesting thing is that reaper treats midi as if it
> too were a prt of whatever audio you are manipulating omst of the time
> when making global edits. For specific midi editing just feel free to
> write here. I have done some things, I think its a bit annoying or
> maybe I haven't found a way to easily changes midi programs and banks
> and thinks like pan, mute, volume ETC but I am sure someone here also
> has a better workflow for that than how I am currently doing it, which
> is inserting events hopefully at the beginning of tracks. Also, reaper
> is really flexible. So pressing applications key on whatever thing you
> have done always reveals something new.
>
> 2016-03-20 10:16 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>> Hi Ralph?
>> Reaper does work with midi, and though I have used reaper more for audio
>> than midi, there have been accessibility improvements that make reaper
>> more midi friendly.
>> For instance, the piano role now will play notes as you arrow through
>> them and you can easioy change the note or velocity or start time of the
>> notes, quantize and the like.
>> There is also a dedicated event list.
>> So reaper is getting there, I really like the velocity audition feature
>> whre you can hear the note as you change velocity so having layered
>> drums for instance you can easily audition what layer you are on.
>> Vsts are nicely dealt with, sonar only lets' you see 4 parms at once
>> with the inspector which you have to keep switching out, but reaper
>> gives you the whole list at once.
>> it's also easier to move fxs around in the chain, and by-pass fx.
>> and automation is wonderful, since you can edit envelopes, actually
>> change after the fact if you didn't like what you did.
>> with sonar we had to fly by the seat of our pants, and re-do automation
>> if we messed it up.
>> Reaper let's you see all your envelopes, nicely named, on the fx parms
>> volumes, pans, what ever, and you can easiouy move between envelopes,
>> select and modify them.
>> I am getting my first wave of reaper students, and we are happily
>> learning together.
>> The more I use reapr, the more I like it.
>> Yes, it's a steep learning curve, and those coming from sonar will be
>> challenged by reapers sometimes seemingly non-intuitive and crazy alien
>> interface, it is not traditional bus and aux send architecture,
>> like a board like many
>> DAW's are simulating, but once you get a few basics down, reaper really
>> starts to shine, and persistance and patience has paid off.
>> Reaper will also be more affordable for more people,
>> and though it's
>> early days, I am changing my mind about the thoughts that no-one will
>> pay for reaper training, or to have tools made for reaper,
>> we are off to a nice start here.
>> Much as I love sonar, and will continue to use it, reaper is a more
>> modern DAW, and supports the newer technologies like vst3,
>> and better compatibility with modern operating systems, don't get me
>> wrong, I am not one of these who have to run the latest and greatest,
>> I use many lagacy and older tools, but there comes a point when one has
>> to move things wear out, or are no longer supported, and reaper I think
>> is the best and most flexible and affordable tool going forward,
>> the weakness in reaper is the lack of built in instruments, there is a
>> basic analog synth, and a sampler, but if you want accessible sampling
>> sforzando with the sfz format is your best shot, also some work has been
>> done with the kontakt player by both Steve Spammer for the jaws folks,
>> and gn luca with hsc don't know what he charges for his autohotkey set,
>> but he hangs out on the reaper list, you can get him there.
>> Also, if you owned sonar, the vst's and dxi synths all the stuff you are
>> used to can be used in reaper, but you will use them in a different way,
>> sonar has convenient controls for patch and midi volume and such
>> dedicated midi tracks, but with reaper, you will have to insert a midi
>> control plug on each midi track to control that stuff, or use descrete
>> events.
>> Yes, this is more cumbersome in a way, but very doable, reaper shines as
>> an audio editor nad sonar shines as the long standing midi sweet spot,
>> many folks who use reaper also use things like the free qws sequencer
>> only to do their midi editing before doing their audio in reapaer, but
>> with the new midi enhancements in the 520 pre release of reaper, I think
>> midi editing is now nice enough that even sonar old die hards like me
>> can work with it without lying on the floor and kicking their legs
>> throwing temper tantrums 'grin'.
>> I love reaper's clean uncluttered interface, no arrowing around a
>> million times just to get to a control,
>> and the easy way to zero in on a little spot, scrubbing, and tiny
>> cross-fades, and event based audio editing, much nicer than sonar.
>> I always say sonar is the big luxury travel trailer with color tv, and
>> wet bar, and king sized bed while reaper is the fleet little dirt bike
>> hooked on the back rack,
>> which can go anywhere.
>> Reaper is so kind on system resources too,
>> you can run it portably, so take your settings anyplace,
>> and we have the main devs of reaper nad the main dev of NVDA working
>> closely together so many fixes happening fast, not like we usually get,
>> oh we're looking in to it, but don't have time,
>> we have to deal with the office and excel crowd, and music production
>> doesn't matter, it really is pretty much now, you ask for a feature, and
>> if Jamie and Justin can make it happen, it get's done.
>> This is the time to strike while the iron is hot,
>> I wouldn't jump on reaper before because everybody was using that old
>> reaccess plug which was abandon ware, so nothing could be fixed but
>> Osara is shaping up to be a really comprehensive and full feaptured
>> modern tool, and the reaper experience is so much beter now.
>> I am looking forward to tutoring many people in
>> reaping in the coming days, I just wished I'd put more time in to it
>> earlier, but hey, only so much time in the day.
>> Come see me privately if you want more info, we are glad to help, and
>> we'll work out details with you if you need personal on-going help.
>> My friend Ross is fixing to release his cubass accessibility, and Steve
>> over at vipaudio access is working on samplitude,
>> that's a very nice high end DAW, and Nate keeps us all abreast of
>> on-going pro-tools development, so this has never been better,k we have
>> some really good choices going forward, and each brings something good
>> to the tool box.
>> The beauty of the mac  stuff is that all the hardward pc based headaches
>> are done for you,
>> no dealing with BIOS tweaks or parts lists, you just buy a mac and the
>> speech is there, and you can just get down to it.
>> There is even reaper mac stuff in development, the champion of that is
>> Vic who used to make the JSonar stuff, jamie doesn't have a mac yet, but
>> they are both keen to get to it, but because of the way mac does things,
>> there is a gap, in development but some are forging forward with using
>> reaper on the mac.
>> But logic and Pro-Tools are coming along nicely,
>> I have students doing logic,
>> so I'll need to go there soon,
>> but the combination of logic and pro-toolsgives the mac user a really
>> good tool chest, with the long standing pro-tools industry standard slot
>> it has held for years,
>> on the reaper list there are protools and reaper users with a lot of
>> cross polination.
>> so i think there is some
>> common ground between pro-tools and reaper with how audio is handled, a
>> lot of disgruntled pt users went to reaper in the last major upgrade,
>> but many continue to use their older protools versions.
>> but nate tells us that protools midi has gotten better,
>> and of course protools comes with more instruments and default content
>> than reaper does, I wouldbe interested to hear if nate has worked with
>> Structure and how accessible it is.
>> I have so many well loved vst's in my tool box, and don't want to give
>> them up so would llike to know how the vst wrapper works with pro-tools,
>> and how accessible that is.
>> I jus got to bite the bullet and get a mac in here soon.
>> anyway, I ramble on and on, but don't fear the reaper, grab a copy and
>> start having fun, there's lots to love and it just get's better.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2016 12:06 AM, Rafał Marzec wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> Few months ago I asked some questions about reaper on midimag list but
>>> didn't received any answer for it. So maybe here there is someone who can
>>> help. I'm using sonar but I'm  thinking about changing The program but
>>> I've got some questions for example how it works with with a midi
>>> keyboards and the most important question for me is at work with VST
>>> plugins? I mean software synthesisers can you edit the parameters. There
>>> are many podcasts about reaper but mostly people showing how to work with
>>> audio
>>> I am looking for some information about working with Midi
>>> I would be appreciated for any feedback from you Best regards Ralph
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 03:27, Clement Chou <chou.clement at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I'll give this a look for sure. Just want to figure out the
>>>> best way to record and edit guitar and drum tracks that aren't midi.
>>>> If you have any resources for starting to work with midi to build
>>>> parts of a song, I'd appreciate those as well. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/18/16, Adrián Mena <adrianm7m at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello and wellcome to Reaper, you might find the following link
>>>>> useful. However, there is not that much about Reaper and NVDA yet.
>>>>> I'm new to Reaper as well, but I' ve tried around for some time, and
>>>>> got some tutoring.
>>>>> You can create new tracks by pressing ctr+t, you name the track and
>>>>> hit enter on it.
>>>>> You can add effects, hiting f, on the track, and selecting the effects
>>>>> you want to add.
>>>>> I'm learning midi as well, I'm still in the basics, but if I can help
>>>>> I'll be glad to do it.
>>>>> I hope it helps, Reaper is nice, and it gets better and better.
>>>>> The link:
>>>>> https://www.coolblindtech.com/reaper-on-windows-episode-1-general-introduction-why-reaper-is-awesome/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-03-18 14:04 GMT-06:00, Clement Chou <chou.clement at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Hey all. New to this whole music production thing and reaper in
>>>>>> particular. Was wondering if there are any tips to get started and or
>>>>>> tutorial podcasts that are updated with more current versions of the
>>>>>> program that show how to make a track or song? I know a fair bit about
>>>>>> live sound but don't know squat about digital editting and
>>>>>> workstations, so was wondering what tips would be gained from asking
>>>>>> here. I have the latest version of reaper, NVDA, and Osara installed.
>>>>>> For my audio setup I have right now a Line 6 Pod hd 300 which serves
>>>>>> as my audio interface, either through Line in or through USB. Two
>>>>>> guitars I can use, plus a Beatbuddy which I use live for my drum
>>>>>> tracks and probably here as well, for the amazing realism of the
>>>>>> sounds. Simple setup, but I think it should do the job to do some
>>>>>> basic recording, mixing, layering and uploading... if anyone has ideas
>>>>>> on how to get started, that'd be appreciated, especially in the finer
>>>>>> points of editting without any midi capable devices. Would also like
>>>>>> to figure out how to use nothing but my computer keyboard to add other
>>>>>> sounds if possible without too much trouble. I know this is a lot of
>>>>>> questions, but this is something new I thought I would try my hand at.
>>>>>> Appreciate all the help!
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