[Rwp] understanding Reaper's take system?

Mon Mar 14 02:38:30 EDT 2016

got it. I thought the t and shift plus T would have changed a stack or
something but they just cycle through takes indeed. Very nice. And I
guess that for playing say only takes 1 and 3 you can always explode
takes into tracks and that's it no more fiddling.

2016-03-14 1:33 GMT-05:00, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org>:
> You may need to set it on both affected items, not just one of them, as
> one might override the other.
>
> T and shift+t change the active take for the item; i.e. the take that
> plays. So that allows you to cycle through takes. Not sure I follow what
> you mean about messing up order; it just changes the active take, rather
> than actually changing the stack or anything.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by take list. I don't know if even
> sighted users can choose two specific takes to play at once, but you
> could play all takes, then just mute the ones you're not interested in.
>
> Btw, I do see a "(take list)" item in the Take sub-menu of the Item
> context menu. I just realised this is actually a weird artefact of the
> way OSARA (and eaAccess and ReaEar) bring up the Item context menu. If
> you access this via the Item menu on the menu bar, you do actually get
> the list of takes, including a check mark on the active one. There's
> nothing special about this, though; you could do just the same thing
> with t and shift+t or by selecting the active take in item properties.
>
> Jamie
>
> On 14/03/2016 4:04 PM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>> you know, I find that if you change the setting later of items always
>> mix, ETC it will not apply unless you had set that as your default or
>> before you had recorded into your project ETC. So I think another way
>> to do it is just to check the length of your items on the item
>> properties . That did the trick for me, because I started the second
>> section at the last 4 bars of the first one, and I saw that the first
>> section was 3 and something bars less than the time I had intended
>> that item to sound. I guess its the equivalent for growing the edges
>> of items... I wish this was explained a bit more thoroughly so we
>> wouldn't have to ask and clutter the list with this stuff. Thanks for
>> the switching the items for takes with the T and shift plus T command,
>> I though that it would have messed up the order of things or
>> whatever... and the take list is not accessible right_ for now at
>> least, right? It would be nice to be able to play, say the first and
>> third take simultaneously or arbitrary takes to hear differences on
>> things, I know of people who have done that with reaper.
>>
>> 2016-03-14 0:06 GMT-05:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>> What's really gonna be a skull splitter is trying to get my head around
>>> hey there are 4 items here all in the same time area, and for simple
>>> things we are normally having them along a linear line, but they can be
>>> all bunched up together with a bit of this and a bit of that,
>>> and trying to figure out where what is say if you recorded several
>>> passes on one track, with swonar I'd just do it if I couldn't be
>>> bothered making separate tracks for everything, like a backing vocal
>>> stack,
>>> and too bad if you messed up one take in the middle, but with reaper at
>>> least if we do get confused we can blow it all up to tracks and fix it.
>>> Or blow it up to takes, because it's easier to switch takes and figure
>>> out what's what than to figure out and try and mute and play only one
>>> item at a time and see where you need to trim and such.
>>> Loads of fun ha.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/13/2016 11:02 PM, James Teh wrote:
>>>> By default, REAPER is set so that "Enclosed items replace enclosing
>>>> items". Otherwise, when you overlap items (by grwing edges, etc.),
>>>> they would mix, which is not what you want when comping. You can
>>>> change this under "Item mix behavior" in the properties for the item.
>>>>
>>>> On 14/03/2016 1:50 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> Now this has got me flumuxed and I'm sure I'm gonna feel really dum
>>>>> when I find out it's something simple 'grin'.
>>>>> Why the heck when I import 2 items on the same track can't I play
>>>>> both of them, one seems to over-write the other until the first chunk
>>>>> is done playing, and then the other one will play.
>>>>> I can explode them in to takes and then they become one item and the
>>>>> takes will all play, but why not both items?
>>>>> When you record they will all play, but no matter what i do I can not
>>>>> get both items to play.
>>>>> This makes me miss sonar's sound on sound blend.
>>>>> mode.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/13/2016 9:34 PM, James Teh wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/03/2016 10:38 AM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>>> So, I recently recorded several takes of a saxophone part. And then
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> did record only, say, the second section of that part.
>>>>>> The first thing to note is that REAPER divides audio into "items"
>>>>>> and each "item" can have one or more takes. Only one take can be
>>>>>> "active" at a time for an item. When you did your first take, there
>>>>>> was one "item". When you recorded the second take, because you only
>>>>>> recorded it for the second section, REAPER will have created a
>>>>>> second "item". The first item is for the first section; the second
>>>>>> item is for the second section. The second item will have two takes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. How do I hear the different takes, one by one?
>>>>>> Move to an item (control+rightArrow, etc.) and press t or shift+t to
>>>>>> switch the active take.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. How can I hear part of one take from the first section and
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> take from the second section?
>>>>>> You just change the active take for each item (as above) as you like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Is there a way to put different sections of different takes into
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> single take?, or better, after I have the takes I am satisfied with,
>>>>>>> can I make those takes a final take or a final track for sending?
>>>>>> If you're working entirely in REAPER, you generally wouldn't combine
>>>>>> items. You just set the takes the way you want them and you're done.
>>>>>> If you want to export to something else, you'd generally "render"
>>>>>> the project (whether that be the whole thing or a single track).
>>>>>> REAPER does have options to glue items together, render as a new
>>>>>> take, etc., but yougenerally wouldn't need to use those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>
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