[Rwp] a thought for the permanent key map

[Chris Belle]

Ok, I'll put her up there.


On 3/8/2016 9:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> I can reproduce this. Suspect it'll be a fix for Cockos, so get it up
> on GitHub quick while we have their attention. Will do it myself after
> work tonight if you haven't gotten to it before me.
>
> Scott
>
> On 3/8/16, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Ok, here is something ery interesting.
>> I have been happily making custom actions but I just tried to edit one,
>> take out 10 repeats of the 5 percent
>> volume nudges to get that half db.
>> Well, After selecting the actions in that second list, and then hitting
>> the remove button,
>> it's like reaper hangs, I can see the window is there, but I can't focus
>> anything and if I alt tab away from that actions window it's gone, I
>> can't find it again.
>> I could always delete these and make them again, but it'd be good if we
>> could edit them properly.
>> If I need to I'll file on git hub.
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2016 8:35 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>> Hey, I am happy to help out with additions to the key map \
>>> by making custom actions for half a db down assigned to what ever
>>> keystroke everybody wants, if everyone agrees half a db is the magic
>>> number.
>>> Since there were already reaper actions for 1 db down,
>>> I think that's probably why Derick and GN Luca used those measurements,
>>> and that's a pretty good general thing most people seem to like, but
>>> my original point was to make actions that were able to be used with
>>> automation.
>>> Right now the alt down arrow and up arrow which
>>> are the only volume actions which can respond to automation
>>> and if I remember Jamie telling us a while back, that was a UI
>>> limitation.
>>> 5 percent of a db is a nice fine resolution to build on because from
>>> there we can build any jump values we like,
>>> a 10th of a db, half a db,
>>> it doesn't matter, so I don't know about jaws users, but with NVDA
>>> it's easy to create extra consolidations in that second list,
>>> YOu just have to focus on that action in the first list,
>>> and then press insert  plus numpad enter,
>>>   as many times as you like to get the number of repeats you want in
>>> the second list.
>>> it won't tell you when something is added, but if you count 10
>>> presses, that's half a db.
>>> and then you can go to the second list and look at it to see how many
>>> of that action are in there.
>>> Very slick indeed,
>>> and I like the default of 5 percent of a db to do really long, nice
>>> smooth fades
>>> and I have created both half db and 1 db versions and now I'm in the
>>> habbit of exporting my custom key stufff,
>>> and I'm still trying to make up my mind what exactly I want to have at
>>> my finger tips, and what I don't mind searching for in that huge
>>> action list 'grin'.
>>> I suspect that will never be a one size fits all, but then that's the
>>> beauty of reaper,
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2016 7:59 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>> I really didn't mean this to be for something for Jamie to have to
>>>> deal with, but jus the folks who were doing the keymap for eeryone.
>>>> It is very easy to make custom actions,
>>>> a couple of steps involved but you can make volume changes of any
>>>> resolution you want from 1-20th of a db
>>>> on up to as big as you want to jump by just consolidating actions.
>>>> For instance, I have them set for  20 times for a 1 db jump, if you
>>>> set it to 10 times that will be a half db jump.
>>>> So we have all we need already I should think to do this, unless
>>>> Jamie sees something I am not.
>>>> Unless he wants changes to the keymap filed up on github now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/7/2016 5:46 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, I said something similar to Jamie the other day. Although I
>>>>> reckon half a db is probably a reasonable compromise to go forward
>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/7/16, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org> wrote:
>>>>>> File it on GitHub. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/03/2016 7:37 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey we have a nudge track up and down 1 db with control shift and up
>>>>>>> and down arrows.
>>>>>>> currently in the keymap,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But they don't work with automation.
>>>>>>> So, why not adopt a consolidated custom action with 20 presses of the
>>>>>>> alt up and down arrows as a replacement for the control shift
>>>>>>> combinations.
>>>>>>> they'll do the same thing, but will work in the automation modes.
>>>>>>> I currently have both in place still and using alt page up and
>>>>>>> down as
>>>>>>> my 1 db nudges which work for track automation but I think I might
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> rid of the control shift versions and replace them with the said
>>>>>>> automation versions.
>>>>>>> I currently have mapped to the alt page up and down.
>>>>>>>
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