[Rwp] a thought for the permanent key map

Tue Mar 8 10:28:39 EST 2016

Now using object nav I was able to delete an action in the second list, 
but so far no matter what I do I can only delete one at a time.
I can't select 10 repeats for instance and tell them all to go away.

On 3/8/2016 9:21 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> Ok, here is something ery interesting.
> I have been happily making custom actions but I just tried to edit 
> one, take out 10 repeats of the 5 percent
> volume nudges to get that half db.
> Well, After selecting the actions in that second list, and then 
> hitting the remove button,
> it's like reaper hangs, I can see the window is there, but I can't 
> focus anything and if I alt tab away from that actions window it's 
> gone, I can't find it again.
> I could always delete these and make them again, but it'd be good if 
> we could edit them properly.
> If I need to I'll file on git hub.
>
>
> On 3/8/2016 8:35 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> Hey, I am happy to help out with additions to the key map \
>> by making custom actions for half a db down assigned to what ever 
>> keystroke everybody wants, if everyone agrees half a db is the magic 
>> number.
>> Since there were already reaper actions for 1 db down,
>> I think that's probably why Derick and GN Luca used those measurements,
>> and that's a pretty good general thing most people seem to like, but 
>> my original point was to make actions that were able to be used with 
>> automation.
>> Right now the alt down arrow and up arrow which
>> are the only volume actions which can respond to automation
>> and if I remember Jamie telling us a while back, that was a UI 
>> limitation.
>> 5 percent of a db is a nice fine resolution to build on because from 
>> there we can build any jump values we like,
>> a 10th of a db, half a db,
>> it doesn't matter, so I don't know about jaws users, but with NVDA 
>> it's easy to create extra consolidations in that second list,
>> YOu just have to focus on that action in the first list,
>> and then press insert  plus numpad enter,
>>  as many times as you like to get the number of repeats you want in 
>> the second list.
>> it won't tell you when something is added, but if you count 10 
>> presses, that's half a db.
>> and then you can go to the second list and look at it to see how many 
>> of that action are in there.
>> Very slick indeed,
>> and I like the default of 5 percent of a db to do really long, nice 
>> smooth fades
>> and I have created both half db and 1 db versions and now I'm in the 
>> habbit of exporting my custom key stufff,
>> and I'm still trying to make up my mind what exactly I want to have 
>> at my finger tips, and what I don't mind searching for in that huge 
>> action list 'grin'.
>> I suspect that will never be a one size fits all, but then that's the 
>> beauty of reaper,
>>
>> On 3/8/2016 7:59 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>> I really didn't mean this to be for something for Jamie to have to 
>>> deal with, but jus the folks who were doing the keymap for eeryone.
>>> It is very easy to make custom actions,
>>> a couple of steps involved but you can make volume changes of any 
>>> resolution you want from 1-20th of a db
>>> on up to as big as you want to jump by just consolidating actions.
>>> For instance, I have them set for  20 times for a 1 db jump, if you 
>>> set it to 10 times that will be a half db jump.
>>> So we have all we need already I should think to do this, unless 
>>> Jamie sees something I am not.
>>> Unless he wants changes to the keymap filed up on github now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/7/2016 5:46 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I said something similar to Jamie the other day. Although I
>>>> reckon half a db is probably a reasonable compromise to go forward
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/7/16, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org> wrote:
>>>>> File it on GitHub. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/03/2016 7:37 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>> Hey we have a nudge track up and down 1 db with control shift and up
>>>>>> and down arrows.
>>>>>> currently in the keymap,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But they don't work with automation.
>>>>>> So, why not adopt a consolidated custom action with 20 presses of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> alt up and down arrows as a replacement for the control shift
>>>>>> combinations.
>>>>>> they'll do the same thing, but will work in the automation modes.
>>>>>> I currently have both in place still and using alt page up and 
>>>>>> down as
>>>>>> my 1 db nudges which work for track automation but I think I 
>>>>>> might get
>>>>>> rid of the control shift versions and replace them with the said
>>>>>> automation versions.
>>>>>> I currently have mapped to the alt page up and down.
>>>>>>
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