[Rwp] OSARA now depends on REAPER 5.16

Sat Mar 5 10:45:04 EST 2016

Well, they won't let me fly a plane,
so I have to amuse myself some how 'grin'.

On 3/5/2016 6:57 AM, David Regan wrote:
> Chris, I'm particularly impressed with your use of the letter r and the apostrophe.  Jaws pronounces fr'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'rucking so nicely!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:32 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA now depends on REAPER 5.16
>
> It's just so fr'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'rucking great to have someone who
> really cares about this working for us.
>
> The combination of your formidable skills and getting to pow wow
> closely with Justin over at reaper is a combination that just doesn't
> happen very often for us.
> You know what we usually get 'smile'.
>
>
> On 3/5/2016 5:39 AM, James Teh wrote:
>> I think part of the problem is that I've done a lot more than we
>> originally projected. There are a lot of things that we've since
>> thought of, people have requested or have now become possible that
>> certainly make for a better/more complete experience; e.g. take FX,
>> envelope points, tempo markers, MIDI editing, etc. I'd rather have a
>> polished first release than work strictly to budget.
>>
>> That said, I hope the community will pitch in into the future to keep
>> this alive. A few of you have donated very generously and we're very
>> grateful for that. But for those that can't do that, remember, even a
>> few dollars from time to time helps. It might seem like nothing, but
>> it multiplies out.
>>
>> Regarding targeting donations towards OSARA specifically, the nature
>> of donations (and our status as a charity) means donations can't
>> guarantee any particular services rendered. Donations just support the
>> mission of the organisation in a broad sense. That said, it is
>> obviously helpful for budgeting for us to know what people care about
>> most when they're donating. We actually already have an open issue to
>> provide a donation link specific to OSARA, but I'll see about
>> prioritising that.
>>
>> Thanks to you all for your support.
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>> On 5/03/2016 10:20 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> Hi Jim and all,
>>>
>>> I'm not Jamie, but can answer this one. It's both. I secured funds for
>>> Jamie to develop at a fair hourly rate considering his skills, with a
>>> forecast laid out of how many hours each area of OSARA development
>>> would take (projected after consultation with Jamie himself). We're
>>> way over budget at this point, like 40 hours over budget, with a Mac
>>> port still to be completed. I've had Jamie's assurance that he believe
>>> OSARA to be an important aspect of his work, and am hopeful that he'll
>>> achieve everything we laid out to our backers. That said, any and all
>>> donations to NVAccess with OSARA in mind would definitely be most
>>> appreciated. I'm not part of or representing NVAccess in any way, just
>>> vouching for a chap who's thrown himself into a project and followed
>>> through despite the projections being off because it's something he
>>> believes in.
>>>
>>> Hth clarify things a bit.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 3/4/16, Jim Noseworthy <jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com> wrote:
>>>> Yo Jamie:
>>>>
>>>> You said that You've already worked many hours over budget on this
>>>> project; is that a time budget or a finance budget you're speaking of.
>>>> There's nothing we can do about the time budget problem but there's
>>>> certainly something we should be able to do about the financial budget
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all over the place.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/4/2016 6:39 PM, James Teh wrote:
>>>>> In theory, yes. The problem is that right now, there's no action to
>>>>> select
>>>>> take envelopes, but I should be able to invent one. That was actually
>>>>> already possible before 5.16, but far less useful. The question is
>>>>> whether
>>>>> this is nice to have or a killer feature. I've already worked many
>>>>> hours
>>>>> over budget on this project, so I'm starting to get choosy about
>>>>> what I
>>>>> put time into.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 Mar 2016, at 5:39 AM, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we know if it will be possible to support take envelopes now? Lol
>>>>>> after everything that's been done I almost feel greedy for asking,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> you never know if you don't ask,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/03/2016 13:43, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>>> Jamie, you are big. way big for trying the direct approach. And
>>>>>>> so too
>>>>>>> is Justin from Cockos . I will keep on supporting the two projects
>>>>>>> indifenitely, because no price will ever be too big to compensate
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a fraction of what you have done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-03-04 5:51 GMT-05:00, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>:
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2016-03-04 11:42 GMT+01:00, onlineeagle via RWP
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Incredible. Thanks Jamie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 08:29, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I decided to try the direct approach and emailed Cockos
>>>>>>>>>> directly late
>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>> week. Since then, Justin from Cockos and I have been going
>>>>>>>>>> back and
>>>>>>>>>> forth
>>>>>>>>>> with deep technical discussion via email. That has resulted in
>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>> enhancements to the API, including what I needed for take FX. In
>>>>>>>>>> addition,
>>>>>>>>>> there are also significant enhancements to the accessibility
>>>>>>>>>> implementation within REAPER itself; e.g. the faders in the I/O
>>>>>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the Rea plugins are now all accessible. You won't see those
>>>>>>>>>> latter
>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> until REAPER 5.20, though. I've been amazed to see what
>>>>>>>>>> they've been
>>>>>>>>>> willing to implement in just one week.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 6:11 PM, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your great work, Jamie. Just curious what had
>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>> to get us access to item fx parameters?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 10:38 PM, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is documented in the commit log, but I suspect many don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> bother
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> read it. :) You should be aware that OSARA now depends on
>>>>>>>>>>>> REAPER
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.16,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which was just released. It will simply fail to work on any
>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>> version. On the flip side, we now have support for adjusting
>>>>>>>>>>>> item/take
>>>>>>>>>>>> FX parameters and reporting friendly envelope values for FX
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> support this, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> James Teh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, NV Access Limited
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.nvaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>>>>>>>>>> SIP: jamie at nvaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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