[Rwp] OSARA now depends on REAPER 5.16

Sat Mar 5 07:57:24 EST 2016

Chris, I'm particularly impressed with your use of the letter r and the apostrophe.  Jaws pronounces fr'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'rucking so nicely!

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From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:32 PM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA now depends on REAPER 5.16

It's just so fr'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'r'rucking great to have someone who 
really cares about this working for us.

The combination of your formidable skills and getting to pow wow  
closely with Justin over at reaper is a combination that just doesn't 
happen very often for us.
You know what we usually get 'smile'.

On 3/5/2016 5:39 AM, James Teh wrote:
> I think part of the problem is that I've done a lot more than we 
> originally projected. There are a lot of things that we've since 
> thought of, people have requested or have now become possible that 
> certainly make for a better/more complete experience; e.g. take FX, 
> envelope points, tempo markers, MIDI editing, etc. I'd rather have a 
> polished first release than work strictly to budget.
>
> That said, I hope the community will pitch in into the future to keep 
> this alive. A few of you have donated very generously and we're very 
> grateful for that. But for those that can't do that, remember, even a 
> few dollars from time to time helps. It might seem like nothing, but 
> it multiplies out.
>
> Regarding targeting donations towards OSARA specifically, the nature 
> of donations (and our status as a charity) means donations can't 
> guarantee any particular services rendered. Donations just support the 
> mission of the organisation in a broad sense. That said, it is 
> obviously helpful for budgeting for us to know what people care about 
> most when they're donating. We actually already have an open issue to 
> provide a donation link specific to OSARA, but I'll see about 
> prioritising that.
>
> Thanks to you all for your support.
>
> Jamie
>
> On 5/03/2016 10:20 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Hi Jim and all,
>>
>> I'm not Jamie, but can answer this one. It's both. I secured funds for
>> Jamie to develop at a fair hourly rate considering his skills, with a
>> forecast laid out of how many hours each area of OSARA development
>> would take (projected after consultation with Jamie himself). We're
>> way over budget at this point, like 40 hours over budget, with a Mac
>> port still to be completed. I've had Jamie's assurance that he believe
>> OSARA to be an important aspect of his work, and am hopeful that he'll
>> achieve everything we laid out to our backers. That said, any and all
>> donations to NVAccess with OSARA in mind would definitely be most
>> appreciated. I'm not part of or representing NVAccess in any way, just
>> vouching for a chap who's thrown himself into a project and followed
>> through despite the projections being off because it's something he
>> believes in.
>>
>> Hth clarify things a bit.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 3/4/16, Jim Noseworthy <jim.noseworthy at compuconference.com> wrote:
>>> Yo Jamie:
>>>
>>> You said that You've already worked many hours over budget on this
>>> project; is that a time budget or a finance budget you're speaking of.
>>> There's nothing we can do about the time budget problem but there's
>>> certainly something we should be able to do about the financial budget
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks all over the place.
>>>
>>> On 3/4/2016 6:39 PM, James Teh wrote:
>>>> In theory, yes. The problem is that right now, there's no action to 
>>>> select
>>>> take envelopes, but I should be able to invent one. That was actually
>>>> already possible before 5.16, but far less useful. The question is 
>>>> whether
>>>> this is nice to have or a killer feature. I've already worked many 
>>>> hours
>>>> over budget on this project, so I'm starting to get choosy about 
>>>> what I
>>>> put time into.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>
>>>>> On 5 Mar 2016, at 5:39 AM, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we know if it will be possible to support take envelopes now? Lol
>>>>> after everything that's been done I almost feel greedy for asking, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> you never know if you don't ask,
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/03/2016 13:43, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
>>>>>> Jamie, you are big. way big for trying the direct approach. And 
>>>>>> so too
>>>>>> is Justin from Cockos . I will keep on supporting the two projects
>>>>>> indifenitely, because no price will ever be too big to compensate 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a fraction of what you have done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-03-04 5:51 GMT-05:00, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> Indeed! :D<div id="DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br />
>>>>>>> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #aaabb6;">
>>>>>>>      <tr>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 20px; color: 
>>>>>>> #41424e;
>>>>>>> font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
>>>>>>> line-height: 18px;">Tento email byl odeslán z počítače bez virů,
>>>>>>> chráněného programem Avast. <br /><a
>>>>>>> href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" 
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>      </tr>
>>>>>>> </table>
>>>>>>> <a href="#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1"
>>>>>>> height="1"></a></div>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-03-04 11:42 GMT+01:00, onlineeagle via RWP
>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>> Incredible. Thanks Jamie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 08:29, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I decided to try the direct approach and emailed Cockos 
>>>>>>>>> directly late
>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>> week. Since then, Justin from Cockos and I have been going 
>>>>>>>>> back and
>>>>>>>>> forth
>>>>>>>>> with deep technical discussion via email. That has resulted in
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>> enhancements to the API, including what I needed for take FX. In
>>>>>>>>> addition,
>>>>>>>>> there are also significant enhancements to the accessibility
>>>>>>>>> implementation within REAPER itself; e.g. the faders in the I/O
>>>>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the Rea plugins are now all accessible. You won't see those 
>>>>>>>>> latter
>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>> until REAPER 5.20, though. I've been amazed to see what 
>>>>>>>>> they've been
>>>>>>>>> willing to implement in just one week.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 6:11 PM, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your great work, Jamie. Just curious what had 
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>> to get us access to item fx parameters?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 10:38 PM, James Teh <jamie at nvaccess.org> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is documented in the commit log, but I suspect many don't
>>>>>>>>>>> bother
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> read it. :) You should be aware that OSARA now depends on 
>>>>>>>>>>> REAPER
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.16,
>>>>>>>>>>> which was just released. It will simply fail to work on any 
>>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>>> version. On the flip side, we now have support for adjusting
>>>>>>>>>>> item/take
>>>>>>>>>>> FX parameters and reporting friendly envelope values for FX 
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> support this, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> James Teh
>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, NV Access Limited
>>>>>>>>>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>>>>>>>>>>> www.nvaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>>>>>>>>> SIP: jamie at nvaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
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