[Rwp] Introducing myself and a quick question

[Alan]

Well, if possible, I preffer software sollutions cause it makes easier to work pure digital. some libraries like edirol orchestral or super quarted runs perfectly, but they include a few sounds only. 
do you all use racks or hardware, not software?  Thanks in advance.


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> El 2 mar 2016, a las 11:40, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> escribió:
> 
> Gentle reminder: this is a DAW war free zone, cheers chaps.
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On 3/2/16, Tayeb Meftah <tayeb.meftah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> actualy Sonar is a wast, no?
>> why should i buy sonar while jSonar work only with Sonar 8.5?
>> grrr... i wasted 105USD for free befaure, and i'm pretty awesome with
>> reaper.
>> 
>> Envoyé de mon iPad
>> 
>>> Le 2 mars 2016 à 11:23, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> I think hardware is always a good choice,
>>> one thing about it, it doesn't change, if you learn it, it will work in
>>> any DAW.
>>> But the thing about hardware is that it does get out of date in the sense
>>> that you can't easily change samples in it,
>>> some high end instruments allow for extra memory to load samples, but that
>>> is not how those instruments are usually used you buy a keyboard largely
>>> for it's onboard samples, and tight integration to it's own operating
>>> system and features.
>>> Sadly, at least for now, most of the development for third party
>>> instruments has been done for sonar users,
>>> because they were willing to pay for development,
>>> and there was enough of a user base to warrant that from third party
>>> developers, who are often small companies, or one by operators who do it
>>> as a side line,
>>> but since each DAW expresses vst windows differently you can't just use a
>>> scripting package for hsc or ahk straight across.
>>> One person Steve Spamer
>>> has a site with lots of info on accessibility and some of my own work is
>>> even over there,
>>> there's a guy in Italy
>>> GN Luca who has done some work with kontakt 5 with ahk scripts, he sells
>>> some stuff and gives some away for free,
>>> the thing about kontakt is that each library is different, and even though
>>> Steve hasdone a free set, it won't work for all libraries,
>>> And not all his work I don't think has been done for reaper.
>>> In many ways right now,
>>> sonar is still the gold standard, but we are hoping to change that in the
>>> future, and what I've seen now is very encouraging.
>>> I think reaper will have a more universal appeal,
>>> inexpensive enough for the casual recording person but powerful enough for
>>> the pro as well.
>>> But it won't have all those third party instruments like sonar did, as a
>>> big starting point,
>>> like dimension pro, or rapture,
>>> or even little tts a great little gm2 level synth for song writing, the
>>> sfz player, and sessiondrummer3,
>>> a nice 12 output drum synth which the good thing about sonar's synths is
>>> that they use the open sfz format so it's easy to mess around with those
>>> if you know a little sfz coding.
>>> That happens to be a bit of a hobby of mine, I love crafting my own
>>> instruments.
>>> Sfz is nice because there's no heavy gui interface to deal with, you learn
>>> a few opcodes and then you're off and running provided you have some good
>>> samples to work with.
>>> See if I want a good snare drum, I go make or buy samples I like, and then
>>> I can map my own keys, and layer up my velocity layers, and make it up in
>>> a few minutes the way I want.
>>> I realize, this is a far cry from loading up the latest huge offering from
>>> kontakt,
>>> with all it's bells and whistles, but it works for me.
>>> Here's the info to Steve's site.
>>> http://vipaudioaccess.com/
>>> 
>>> And in closing, I am an old school midi guy, I had all those first run
>>> synths the old dx7 and alphajuno one which I still own,
>>> and the first sampling grand piano made by Korg,
>>> so now a days you can buy nice keyboards with tons of sounds for well
>>> under a thousand dollars, even the low end stuff sounds pretty good, I
>>> think casio  made a work station a couple years ago for around 500 bucks
>>> with organ draw bars,
>>> even, roland makes stuff, so does Yamaha they all have versions of their
>>> keyboards which startg in the hundreds nad goes up from there.
>>> If you can do some searches on line and listen, or visit a music store,
>>> hardware module especially in the analog synth realm have made a big come
>>> back, there is just something about hardware you can't get with soft
>>> synths,
>>> sometimes, there is just a real feel and you don't have to worry about
>>> computer performance or latency or the like, it just works.
>>> but there's always the looming spector of accessibility,
>>> did I just buy a 2 thousand dollar beast I can't run?
>>> Well there's been a lot of blindy's using the mo stuff,
>>> I personally like the sounds of roland gear, but it's kind of a bear to
>>> use.
>>> I knew a guy on midimag Drizza,
>>> who used to sell mo tutorials, he might still be doing that.
>>> But that whole line of keyboards seems to have found great favor in our
>>> community.
>>> If you want to go old school, and kurtzweil,
>>> someone even invented the kirtzweil reader a while back which can read the
>>> midi display I don't know what happened to that project, but if I can find
>>> some emails on it,
>>> the brothers Scramenti
>>> not sure if I spelled that right, but they developed that system, and yes
>>> of course it was sonar users,
>>> but I don't think it was exclusive to sonar users,
>>> so you may get some mileage there, but I think the later kurtzweil units
>>> wouldn't work with that system anymore,
>>> and anyway, as much a religious vibe as those kurtzweil units struck in
>>> our community,
>>> I have nothing against them, still many great classic sounds there, they
>>> tended to be very conservative about new technology,
>>> the stuff on the mo as far as amount of memory, samples, fx and features
>>> far out paced that line.
>>> The things to look for in a keyboard are menus that don't rap, and no
>>> touch screens,
>>> harder to come by these days, but even in saying that, there are synth
>>> immulations and keyboard things on the iOS
>>> platform you can get for very little which are showing up to be accessible
>>> or partially so.
>>> It's like we're inventing the wheel all over again on the Ipad, so you can
>>> hook up an inexpensive controler, and use your IPad as a synth module,
>>> you won't get the performance you would from a great computer, but hey,
>>> it's something to mess about with.
>>> Hope all this helps a bit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/2/2016 3:30 AM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>>> Hi,...This is Kevin Brown...
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know how you feel about hardware sound modules, but I have been
>>>> using the "Motif Rack" with very much success,...granted it is more
>>>> expensive,...but I believe worth the investment...
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